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Does size matter - motion wise?


Marga

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Hi, 

Currently sailing on Anthem to the Canaries and having quite a lot of motion in the ocean with moderate to rough seas. 

Which made me wonder: does size of ship matter when it comes to swells and waves? 

So would (as an example) Oasis be more stable than Anthen and Jewel even less so? 

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42 minutes ago, RCIfan1912 said:

All I know is last year on Oasis we didn't feel a thing, absolutely nothing. I even mentioned this is the smoothest sailing we have even been on. Was the ocean being cooperative or the size of the ship or both? I don't know that. Anthem we have had good luck with too as fast as motion goes. 

You got lucky, our next to last night on Oasis a few months ago had us ROCKING. We had lanyards hanging on hooks in our room, and I was laying in bed, queasy as can be, watching  the lanyards sway left and right quite a bit. It was so bad that even the crew were getting sick, we went to playmakers the next morning and the bartender told us she was on her own because the other two bartenders were both really sick from the night before. We gave her the rest of our Bonine to bring back to her room and give out as she wanted. 

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17 minutes ago, ScottD said:

You got lucky, our next to last night on Oasis a few months ago had us ROCKING. We had lanyards hanging on hooks in our room, and I was laying in bed, queasy as can be, watching  the lanyards sway left and right quite a bit. It was so bad that even the crew were getting sick, we went to playmakers the next morning and the bartender told us she was on her own because the other two bartenders were both really sick from the night before. We gave her the rest of our Bonine to bring back to her room and give out as she wanted. 

Oh wow I think we have been lucky all around. We have never really had truly tough ocean sailing. Once in NCL slightly and one other time but nothing really bad at all. I mean we've been on 12-15 cruises. I have never been sea sick, not even as a kid on fishing boats. Guess I'm lucky that way also. 

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On most of my sailings (all Caribbean or Bahamas except one) I only notice the boat rocking/swaying at all a few times during the entire week.

I learned a long time ago on a very crappy casino cruise in choppy waters that I don't get sea sick (many people were in bad shape while I was playing BJ). That said, knock on wood, I've yet to run into any significantly bad seas on my 15 cruises.

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First time I sailed on Ovation - the seas were pretty good until the last few days when we were nearing Malaysia/Singapore - that's when it started rocking, but it wasn't too bad

When I sailed on her again in March this year, the rocking was much more noticeable, I actually did get sick one day this time around - normally I'm not too bad with motion sickness, but I don't know why this time it was particularly bad.

When I sailed on Pacific Eden (a MUCH smaller ship, even smaller than Grandeur at about 55,000 GT) you could feel the ship rocking MUCH more and a lot of people got sea sick 

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It will really depend on the weather and it’s effects on the ocean

Ive cruised the NJ to Bahamas run a lot on oasis and Anthem.  I can recall a May Oasis sailing that was super bad, but don’t recall associated storms.  Deck 4 in the casino was very bad, our cabins on deck 8 weren’t much better.🤢other sailings on that run were fine-the ocean was so smooth it looked like glass.

I sailed Adventure to New England in the fall and we hit some very tough waters, due to the ripple effect of a hurricane some of the staff were sick and I was green

currently on Jewel-rough start and seemed better for a day but it’s rough again thank you Hurricane Lee.
 

best is to not book all the way forward or aft..  if prone to se sickness, like me, take the meclizine ahead of time, be familiar with allowable dosage, chase it with done ginger ale or ginger beer-my go to is the darknstormy which is ginger beer with holding rum.  Also ginger chews or candy and green apples.  Others swear by the wristbands-pressure points/ and scolpamine patch (Rx) - I’ve never tried them

on my Symphony Transatlantic we hit some tough waters, we had gone south to evade the bad stuff from a storm, can’t imagine it could have been worse! 
 

Even though I’ve had a few rough sailings, out of many sailings, I still think weather, cabin location and your ability to treat motion sickness all play a factor. I should really be praying to the porcelain god right now on Jewel  but im actually doing well!!, in fact better than my Oasis sailing !
 

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Bigger (in terms of gross tonnage) will generally have less motion in like circumstances as it requires more force to move the mass. Length and beam (width) will effect the nature and type of motion.  The Oasis class ships are some of the widest and therefore roll the least but when they do roll a lot of people describe the motion as being more "snappy" or "sudden."   Hull design will also factor into the equation.  Almost all of Royal's ships are true "cruise ships" focused on maximum stability and maneuverability for the environments that they are targeted for which is primarily island-to-island and less true "open ocean." As a result, they perform somewhat differently (though not necessarily poorly) in open ocean.  The most constant motion I have felt have been NY-based cruises, particularly down to Bermuda.  Southampton to Canaries would likely be similar type sailings.  The reality is that the cruise ships are not really designed as much for the TA/TP sailings. I am sure there are others but the only "Ocean Liner" I am currently aware of is the Cunard QM2.   

Of course the biggest factor by far is the simple matter of sea conditions.  The worst seas I ever felt was on Mariner on our way out of Orlando to the W. Carib (I believe Labadee).  Crew were getting sick, I thought the theater sets were going to rip out of their anchors and its the only time I remember obvious mistakes by the RCL singers/dancers in a performance.     

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There was a thread a couple months back in which the OP asked if anyone noticed how much port to starboard rocking Wonder did at sea. OP stated his perception was Wonder was more lively than other Oasis vessels he sailed. He didn't mention sea conditions or weather. When we sailed in late April, we were in mild swells to the North of Puerto Rico enroute to St. Maarten and I have to say there was a noticeable side to side motion (our cabin was on Deck 9, port side, midship). Not unbearable at all, but it noticeable. Wonder if the bubble cushion Wonder rides on is a factor?

Like Jewel and Mariner trips before her, Wonder's 'lullaby' rock gave us some of the best sleep ever!

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I've seen several posts about sea conditions,  but none have mentioned the direction of the wind and waves. A following sea (one where you are going with the waves) is much easier than a head sea (where the waves are going directly toward the bow) as you hit fewer waves. A beam sea (waves from the side) will cause more rocking.

I mention this because a smaller, livelier ship in a following sea wil have less motion than a larger, quieter ship in similar conditions, but with waves from a different direction. 

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On 9/18/2023 at 11:06 AM, Marga said:

Hi, 

Currently sailing on Anthem to the Canaries and having quite a lot of motion in the ocean with moderate to rough seas. 

Which made me wonder: does size of ship matter when it comes to swells and waves? 

So would (as an example) Oasis be more stable than Anthen and Jewel even less so? 

We sailed on Adventure (9-16 thru 9-23) and hardly knew we were on a ship. It was so smooth! Our suite was on the front (bow). We had no balcony (rats!) But anywhere we were on the ship it was smooth. Every now and then we could feel a little wave. Weather was clear, so maybe that helped. Kudos to Captain Eric and crew!

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