JLMoran Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Matt said: I swear I don't, and unlike @Lovetocruise2002 who says she isnt cruising for 8 years and then books 4 cruises, I'm telling the truth! twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Matt said: I swear I don't, and unlike @Lovetocruise2002 who says she isnt cruising for 8 years and then books 4 cruises, I'm telling the truth! Cough, cough, cough... do you have a fever brewing for next week? JLMoran and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Matt said: I swear I don't, and unlike @Lovetocruise2002 who says she isnt cruising for 8 years and then books 4 cruises, I'm telling the truth! Hey! I had 2 kids! What's your excuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Hey! I had 2 kids! What's your excuse? Who knew bots could have baby bots? JLMoran and Lovetocruise2002 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, twangster said: Who knew bots could have baby bots? Only in Canada. JLMoran and twangster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Lovetocruise2002 said: Only in Canada. Only in Canada, eh? Pity. Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 7:42 AM, twangster said: Keep in mind the process of refreshing a ship starts a long time before they pull into the dry dock. Designing and planning the refreshment takes months. Presenting a design will eventually lead to a design being accepted and finalized. Money is budgeted. Coordinating materials and getting them delivered on time then stored at the shipyard is itself a huge undertaking. Planning the actual work takes incredible project management. To accomplish it all in a matter of days is an incredible undertaking. What we see occurring on Navigator started in someone’s head years ago. What we saw on Adenvrure started years before that. In planning and researching Adventure’s refreshment at some point it becomes set and fixed Dry dock space is secured Material is ordered At that point they can’t change it anymore, it’s been set in motion even though it won’t occur for a year later. However they continue to learn. Partners like the water slide manufactures present new ideas. Designers adapt. It’s Mariner’s turn and they take lessons learned from Adventure and proceed with new ideas even though like Adventure it takes a year before it will be implemented. Every reshresh goes through this life cycle. Indy’s turn and it is an evolution of past refreshments. When they start on Navigator’s design on paper at this moment in time the other ships haven’t even been completed yet but the design and planning phase for Navigator commences using the lessons learned and concepts that grew out of the past designs but couldn’t be implemented because at some point in those timelines for past refreshments they had to say enough, this is the design now start executing and ordering material. Months after Navigator’s design was presented and finalized, they begin to look towards the next ship’s design. It will use concepts and ideas learned over time and will likely include more evolution. The next ship after that will further evolve. Voyager will be amped in 2021 I think but someone right now is designing it on paper and soon or recently presenting the design for approval. Money will be budgeted based on cost projections and the project will commence long before 2021. Oh, I understand & am very familiar with the pre-planning, designing, & pre-fab process, of a project of this magnitude. However, the budgeting cost was announced a couple of years ago...which suggest the budgeting cost for the refurbishments, was long accounted for, before the orders(pre-fab) went in. Now I was only referring to the Resort style Pool area & the Lime & Coconut 2-deck bar...as to why RCCL was not adopting the changes fleet wide for those two class of ships(Voyager Class & Freedom Class) versus the same outdated pool area these ships currently have. Royal may adapt these changes to their upcoming drydock schedule for those remaining ships; yet, I can't help but wonder why these particular changes was not implemented on Mariner OTS, Adventure OTS, & Independence OTS, given the budgeting cost & orders was finalize yrs ago? Those three ships has emerged not that long ago...if design was undated & ordered in midstream; those ship I would think, would be reschedule to later drydock date to accommodate those changes. The first drydock on the schedule may have then started with Navigator OTS, in this case for an example. On 2/22/2019 at 8:03 AM, JLMoran said: I'm curious if the ship's primary sailing locations also play a part in decisions about what will go into a given refurbishment, at least for major new features like water slides or some of the dining venue concepts. Adventure spends a good part of each year away from the Caribbean and Bahamas, and while it's not all of the year I can see where it could play a part. If the weather won't accommodate use of fancy new water slides for 2 or 3 months of the year, it becomes an expensive add-on that's just sitting unused while getting beaten up by the weather and incurring maintenance costs. And while a Playmakers type venue would work fine in just about any part of the world, a tiki bar might seem oddly out of place outside of the Caribbean or South Pacific. You & twangster bring up a very good observation on the possible considerations & process, into the decision making, to these refurbishments. I'm just referring to the pool area & bar...which was the thesis of my original question a week or two ago or whenever that was on this thread. Neitherless, the pool area is considered standard part of the ship, which I think, has no baring on location. I simply hope they implement those changes on the remaining ships of those classes, in their future drydock schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Zambia-Zaire said: I can't help but wonder why these particular changes was not implemented on Mariner OTS, Adventure OTS, & Independence OTS, given the budgeting cost & orders was finalize yrs ago? Those three ships has emerged not that long ago...if design was undated & ordered in midstream; those ship I would think, would be reschedule to later drydock date to accommodate those changes. The first drydock on the schedule may have then started with Navigator OTS, in this case for an example. Adventure's dry dock was scheduled for 2016 but Hurricane Matthew blew through Freeport and caused the dry dock to be delayed. Her refreshment was plotted before the Royal Amplified program was conceived. They actually spread Adventure's updates over three smaller breaks in her cruise schedule and completed the last of them just last February. Keep in mind that Royal may purposely go with different features and designs so that the ships are not cookie cutter copies of each other. If that was the case, why go on another cruise? By keeping the ships slightly different it's easier to justify another cruise on another ship to experience the differences. The Cruise Junkie and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just In Navigator Is On The Move https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-78.6/centery:26.3/zoom:11 Thetechie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Navigator is in Miami at the Crown of Miami terminal. mworkman and The Cruise Junkie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, twangster said: Navigator is in Miami at the Crown of Miami terminal. They Where Smart And Did Not Back Her In So That The Web Cam Can Not See The Water Slides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, Jaymac Radio said: They Where Smart And Did Not Back Her In So That The Web Cam Can Not See The Water Slides When she sails tomorrow she will have to use the turning basin. On 3/1 she will be at terminal G so after the shakedown cruise they may park the same way so it's easier to slide her down to G after dropping the press off at A. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just Read On CC That Later Today She Will Move To Terminal G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 We'll see. The dock report may have been from before the shakedown cruise was announced. That dock report has her moving to G and staying there until 3/1, not departing at all for a 2 day cruise. Stay tuned at 6pm ET. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, twangster said: Stay tuned at 6pm ET. Will Do That Sir twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I Wonder When The Rc Press Center Photo Will Come Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jaymac Radio said: I Wonder When The Rc Press Center Photo Will Come Out. I'm sure they were snapping pics yesterday and are waiting for better lighting today. Of course any pics today will be compromised with land and PoM in the background so let the photoshopping commence. The Cruise Junkie and CazV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazV Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaymac Radio said: Just Read On CC That Later Today She Will Move To Terminal G. That was me that posted that over there, and I did get the information from the dock report. I've checked the dock report a few times over the last few days and there have been a few changes made to it (arrival time for this morning and some text). I also couldn't understand why there was nothing about her leaving and coming back for the shakedown cruise. Like you guys, I'll be watching the webcam later to see if she does move to Terminal G. :) Btw... hello... this is my first post here :) I'm sailing on her in April and it's my first RCI cruise. I'm very excited and can't wait to see photos and periscope footage. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, CazV said: Btw... hello... this is my first post here I'm sailing on her in April and it's my first RCI cruise. I'm very excited and can't wait to see photos and periscope footage. Welcome to the friendly blog site. There is very little of the snark and incivility here that you find on the “other” site. Glad to have you here ! SpeedNoodles and CazV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Jaymac Radio said: Just Read On CC That Later Today She Will Move To Terminal G. 3 hours ago, twangster said: We'll see. The dock report may have been from before the shakedown cruise was announced. That dock report has her moving to G and staying there until 3/1, not departing at all for a 2 day cruise. Stay tuned at 6pm ET. FWIW, my instructions from last week are to go to Terminal G for shakedown cruise. I certainly hope it's Terminal A! CazV, The Cruise Junkie and twangster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazV Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Someone just posted a few drone photos over on CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazV Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 The dock report has been updated. She's now scheduled to move from Terminal A to Terminal G at 7.45pm this evening And it's now also showing her leaving at 7pm tomorrow evening and returning 6am on the 28th. Looking forward to your updates @Matt The Cruise Junkie and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 SpeedNoodles, Lovetocruise2002, The Cruise Junkie and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Sweet The Free One Specialty Coffee Perk Is Nice. Hope Harmony Has It. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyRod Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 This is the best Pic I could get from my phone. Hopefully when sun comes up a little more I can get a better Pic!!! CazV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 The pool deck area looks quite different than even Marnier I find....looks like they have some "gazebo's" set up around the sun deck and pool deck? And the mini gold looks small and crowded at the front of the ship. I think its at the front on Marnier as well but didn't seem to look that small? Hard to tell from pics of course. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSRQ Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 We're sailing on her in May. Will she be permanently docked at A by then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyRod Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 A little better picture The Cruise Junkie and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 hours ago, CazV said: The dock report has been updated. She's now scheduled to move from Terminal A to Terminal G at 7.45pm this evening And it's now also showing her leaving at 7pm tomorrow evening and returning 6am on the 28th. Looking forward to your updates @Matt Thanks, I was told we'd be at Terminal G so was wondering how that would work. Also kind of happy for a late-ish sailaway. More time to ride slides this afternoon! The Cruise Junkie and CazV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, monctonguy said: The pool deck area looks quite different than even Marnier I find....looks like they have some "gazebo's" set up around the sun deck and pool deck? And the mini gold looks small and crowded at the front of the ship. I think its at the front on Marnier as well but didn't seem to look that small? Hard to tell from pics of course. The gazebos on deck 12 are a curiosity. In bad weather the winds here can be ferocious, curious they would place gazebos here. At the same time it does give folks who would otherwise shelter under the cover of deck 11 to avoid the sun another place to hangout. Interesting experiment. Mariner retains the tiered seating for Gold Card in the standard Voyager/Freedom class layout. This will be the first 'Suite Sun Deck' for these classes. In some ways it's more like the Oasis or Quantum class Suite Sun Deck - further away from the heart of pool deck but in the general vicinity. I wonder if it will have it's own bar or perhaps dedicated waitstaff. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Navigator is back in the Royal App as a supported ship. Reservation showing up and Navigator also showing up in the supported list. Matt, The Cruise Junkie and CazV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSRQ Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yes. It is in the app but won't let you check in. We're on the May 20th sailing. Our Symphony of the Seas for May 25th, has already let us check in on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 New photos of the finishing touches being added: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/02/26/royal-caribbean-puts-finishing-touches-navigator-of-the-seas-amplification ReyRod, The Cruise Junkie and CazV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Very cool photos. I know it's not, but the blue area with the Royal trademark looks like an ice rink. Is that the sports court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, WannaCruise said: Is that the sports court? Yes It Is The Sport Courts WannaCruise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Ahh man...still haven't gotten any pics of the resort style pool & C&L Bar. Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Here Is Some Video Of The Ship All Done! Make Sure To Look Careful At Hooked Seafood Because There Is @Matt There In The Video CazV and SuperStarian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTLH Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 New blog entry about the refurbishment https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/02/28/navigator-of-the-seas-completes-115-amplification-upgrades-across-the-ship Matt and CazV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'm going to have to try and do a 2 different ship B2B so I can go on Navigator again, that way I only have to fly to Miami once. Navigator was one of the first RCCL ships I sailed in the early 2000's. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wville21 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaymac Radio said: Here Is Some Video Of The Ship All Done! Make Sure To Look Careful At Hooked Seafood Because There Is @Matt There In The Video @Matt since you were in the Hooked video, how was the food at Hooked? Also is El Loco included or cost al a carte? The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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