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On 3/17/2021 at 11:44 AM, KyleW22 said:

I'm curious if the people who have severe reactions to the vaccine are the same people who would've had a severe reaction to covid if they got it. That might explain why the reactions vary by person.

On that train...

My cousin reacted horribly to the vaccine. Inflamed rashes all over her body that lasted for 10 days. She's now seeing an allergist/immunologist to monitor -  her symptoms were bad enough to skip the 2nd shot according to the CDC and her doc. While talking to the doc she realizes when she was sick in April it was likely covid since she had these same symptoms on a smaller scale (and had antibodies). No one thought she had Covid in April because her symptoms weren't the norm. She works in the ER so she had PLENTY of opinions.

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I plan to vaccinate when eligible.  Mostly so I can travel not only on cruises but elsewhere to countries that will have requirements in place.  Also though the longer we have elevated numbers of new

3 of my co-workers had very rough cases of COVID.  I don't want any part of that, so I got my first shot 2 days ago.  As far as risks go, I feel that the risk from the vaccine, although real, is

We will not get a vaccine unless forced to and we will never ever get the mRNA vaccine under any circumstances.  We're waiting it out...

On 3/12/2021 at 2:16 PM, Neesa said:

Being in my 50's we are not Covid Shot eligible age in Florida right now. We are not fans nor do we usually partake in vaccines. Weighing this with lots of research, I believe I would only get the shot if RCCL mandates to sail. If I am running around trying to get covid testing and results in a very slim window, then must wear a mask the entire sailing I am leaning towards not getting vaccinated. We have been freedom living, going to school, out to eat etc (all very mindfully) daughter in school successfully since August. 

I am trying to get out of my own bubble and listen to some other points of view regarding covid behaviors coupled with other sailing families, no politics just pure thoughts regarding what you guys have been mulling over the first chance you get to sail.. Thanks so much!

For those who don't have a medical reason NOT to get the vaccine, my wife and I believe getting the vaccine is important for the safety of others.  It isn't just one's own health at stake, it is reducing the likelihood that one will be a "carrier", it is increasing herd immunity, reducing the chance of dangerous variants, etc.  Now I admit I am selfish about my own life -- I want to have a happy and enriching life -- but I find that part of the enrichment I receive from cruising is what I gain from others.  I wouldn't want to put others' health at risk unnecessarily.  We have been fully vaccinated, we are booked twice in 2022, and we will willingly follow all protocols in place.  We would prefer not needing to wear a mask all the time for the sheer pleasure, but my wife and I will make the best of whatever circumstances we are in when we cruise.   I have a relative who doubts she can safely take the vaccine for medical reasons, so I understand those who cannot participate in public health that way.  I hope everyone can be happy and safe whether they cruise or not.

 

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First dose appointment tomorrow.  

State age limit officially drops as of tomorrow but one of pharmacies offering shots has lowered the age limit on their website today as they said they would since all appointments offered begin tomorrow.

Feeling more confident now I'll be ready to meet any vaccine requirement to cruise and maybe even be ready for any test cruises that could be coming.

I'm ready to travel again.  

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29 minutes ago, twangster said:

First dose appointment tomorrow.  

State age limit officially drops as of tomorrow but one of pharmacies offering shots has lowered the age limit on their website today as they said they would since all appointments offered begin tomorrow.

Feeling more confident now I'll be ready to meet any vaccine requirement to cruise and maybe even be ready for any test cruises that could be coming.

I'm ready to travel again.  

I'm not old enough yet 😉 but i have complete confidence that i will be eligible in early April which gives plenty of time before the cruise in June.

I know several people that became eligible with the latest age drop here in florida and every one of them managed to get an appointment within 7 days ... so pretty sure it wont be a problem for me.

 

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58 minutes ago, twangster said:

First dose appointment tomorrow

Congrats.
 

My wife got called with an appointment date yesterday. I pre registered a week after she did, so I’m lagging behind. 
 

We are both excited about meeting the criteria to board a ship  

 

 

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I get my first shot next Sunday (those few extra pounds that "getting older" has done to me is paying off!).

Wife is already fully vaxxed (teacher).

I'll be anxious to see truly what the rules will be for kids. I'm not concerned they'll be "banned" due to not getting vaccinated but I'm not thrilled with the idea of my 9 yr old getting a brain massage with the nasal swab when he's not actually sick. Hopefully testing requirements will evolve by the time these cruises actually happen.

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We are of age tomorrow so I just registered the both of us. While not thrilled we do not want to possibly be able to be spreading to others. Nervous yes, but this sampling even here has put me at ease, thanks everyone here, let's sail! I have lots of FCC to use!

 

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2 hours ago, twangster said:

First dose appointment tomorrow.  

State age limit officially drops as of tomorrow but one of pharmacies offering shots has lowered the age limit on their website today as they said they would since all appointments offered begin tomorrow.

Feeling more confident now I'll be ready to meet any vaccine requirement to cruise and maybe even be ready for any test cruises that could be coming.

I'm ready to travel again.  

I just got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Friday.. My arm is sore but other than that I'm fine.. Normally I'm ant-vax (wont ever get a flu shot) but if it gets us back on a ship mask free then I've done my part.. 

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One of the things that we have found in our state for our friends and loved ones that are not "age" eligible is the inoculation centers have "waste" lists each day where people did not show for their scheduled vaccinations for whatever reason. At a certain time, the center starts contacting those on the list to come in and receive their shot. This is irrespective of their age. You have to be able to arrive at the center within a short period or the center will go to the next on the list. This has allow less waste of the precious vaccine and gotten more people with shots in the arm. These lists are not widely published but if you look you can find them. Maybe more centers could be proactive like this and get even more people vaccinated.

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5 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

I'll be anxious to see truly what the rules will be for kids. I'm not concerned they'll be "banned" due to not getting vaccinated but I'm not thrilled with the idea of my 9 yr old getting a brain massage with the nasal swab when he's not actually sick. Hopefully testing requirements will evolve by the time these cruises actually happen.

Does no one realize that there is a highly effective RT-PCR test done by swabbing one's cheek?  My 11 yo son has had it done 3x now.  No one has to do the "nasal swab" test.  The cheek swab is called the "buccal" swab.  Look it up in your area.  They are available.  Results usually take about 24-36 hours.

Having done both versions of the test myself, the cheek swab is much more pleasant and doesn't make you cry (lacrimal reflex).

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5 hours ago, CrznTxn said:

One of the things that we have found in our state for our friends and loved ones that are not "age" eligible is the inoculation centers have "waste" lists each day where people did not show for their scheduled vaccinations for whatever reason. At a certain time, the center starts contacting those on the list to come in and receive their shot. This is irrespective of their age. You have to be able to arrive at the center within a short period or the center will go to the next on the list. This has allow less waste of the precious vaccine and gotten more people with shots in the arm. These lists are not widely published but if you look you can find them. Maybe more centers could be proactive like this and get even more people vaccinated.

Yes!  This and volunteering has gotten many of my friends the vaccine who have health issues that are not listed on the precious CDC list a chance to get the vaccine before their age group.  If you get on a "waste" list or volunteer they will give out the jabs to you typically at the end of the day before the vaccine goes outside of its 'safe to use' window. I have a friend who was volunteering in Galveston County this weekend so that she could get the shot and be safe soon to visit with her grandparents. She was able to be vaccinated at the end of her shift Saturday with leftover vaccine that would otherwise have to be thrown away.

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16 minutes ago, emmef said:

Does no one realize that there is a highly effective RT-PCR test done by swabbing one's cheek?  My 11 yo son has had it done 3x now.  No one has to do the "nasal swab" test.  The cheek swab is called the "buccal" swab.  Look it up in your area.  They are available.  Results usually take about 24-36 hours.

Having done both versions of the test myself, the cheek swab is much more pleasant and doesn't make you cry (lacrimal reflex).

The saliva test is even better (also RT-PCR). I've done 3. Pretty handy (although as a woman I was really never taught to spit well when I was a child, lol).  I'm hoping for something like cheek or saliva for these cruising tests.

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6 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said:

 I'm hoping for something like cheek or saliva for these cruising tests.

You and me both!  We have bookings in June (probably a goner), August and December this year.  Just wanna get on a ship!!!!  NEED to get away from my house. 😷 Even if I have to mask up. I'll do it- happily!

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5 minutes ago, emmef said:

You and me both!  We have bookings in June (probably a goner), August and December this year.  Just wanna get on a ship!!!!  NEED to get away from my house. 😷 Even if I have to mask up. I'll do it- happily!

I may be stuck at home for a while yet.  I'm not sure that my better half will be ready to go anywhere still for a while. 

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For those of you that are eligible to get the shots, you are lucky I guess. But some of us cannot have the shots so I would venture to say that our cruising days are over. I am awaiting the word from RCCL and if that is the case all of cruises will have to cancelled. It may be time to look at other vacation ideas.

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23 minutes ago, Dave Penney said:

But some of us cannot have the shots so I would venture to say that our cruising days are over. 

There have been mentions that there may be medical exemptions.  It would be best to wait and see. I know many who are not able to have the shots due to different medical reasons.  The hope is that there will be a medical exemption if you provide adequate proof from your doctor that you are not able to get the shot.  I do have the feeling though that this will be a process and not super easy to do. You may have to sign a release of liability or similar.

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I just thought I would throw in my $.02.  I have nothing against vaccines, in fact I volunteered to be in the phase II for the Pfizer and Moderna tests but was not needed.

Unfortunately I had not qualified for the vaccine and ended up coming down with Covid.  For those of you sitting on the fence of whether or not you should get it because it might make your arm hurt or you might have a headache for a day, take it from me, I would have done that every day for a month instead of getting Covid.  It is not a pleasant experience and I did not have a case which required hospitalization.  

A friend of mine caught the virus the day before I did.  She is now dead.  

The shot is better than either of the alternatives.

If you get a choice, choose the Pfizer injection because, after all, that is "Made in Michigan"!!

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22 hours ago, emmef said:

Does no one realize that there is a highly effective RT-PCR test done by swabbing one's cheek?  My 11 yo son has had it done 3x now.  No one has to do the "nasal swab" test.  The cheek swab is called the "buccal" swab.  Look it up in your area.  They are available.  Results usually take about 24-36 hours.

Having done both versions of the test myself, the cheek swab is much more pleasant and doesn't make you cry (lacrimal reflex).

It depends on the testing requirements of the country that you are entering.  Aruba, for example, doesn't accept the cheek-only swabs and it must be a nasal swab.

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9 minutes ago, DublinFC said:

Does anyone know if there is a requirement on which covid vaccine is required for the Adventure of the Seas and potentially future sailings?  Do we need the Pizer/Moderna 2 step vaccine or is the Johnson and Johnson 1 step satisfactory?

I doubt there will be a rule, as long as you're fully vaccinated. J&J 1 shot is full vaccination, just like Pfizer/Moderna 2 shot. 

 

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