Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 We've appreciated all of Matt's articles and even his Icon walk-through video. I'd love to know thoughts comparing Oasis Class to Icon and what we can expect from Icon to be added to Utopia. We've passed on Icon for Utopia. What's say you? PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Since Utopia is what considered ultra Oasis, I doubt things from Icon would be added. Icon is a different class. At most Utopia will mirror Wonder with maybe a few updates. OCSC Mike, RCIfan1912 and r33796 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 I was thinking more along the lines of a marketplace, etc. cant change the footprint of an Oasis class so much but a few new additions would be welcome. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 27 minutes ago, Sea Squirrel said: a few new additions would be welcome It’s going to be nearly identical to Wonder. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 Wow, it didn't take long for the regulars to throw cold water. Sorry for hoping maybe Royal has kept a few secrets up their sleeve for Utopia and trying to spark a little conversation. Geez, this place is turning into a virtual Crown Lounge, lol. Carlos A., Kayleigh, Plasticbrain and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 RC hasn't shown any interest in overlapping ship classes since Voyager/Freedom classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Sea Squirrel said: I was thinking more along the lines of a marketplace, etc. cant change the footprint of an Oasis class so much but a few new additions would be welcome. There’s going to be a “food truck” by the pool on Utopia. That’s a welcome addition IMHO. OCSC Mike, Sea Squirrel and tingtang 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesszy94 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 hours ago, Sea Squirrel said: Wow, it didn't take long for the regulars to throw cold water. Sorry for hoping maybe Royal has kept a few secrets up their sleeve for Utopia and trying to spark a little conversation. Geez, this place is turning into a virtual Crown Lounge, lol. It's because Icon is currently the latest and greatest and of course people are gonna be talking about Icon for months, when Utopia eventually launches and the novelty of Icon was worn off, people will be talking about Utopia, that's just how it is. When Symphony was just released, people barely talked about Wonder, when Wonder came out, everyone was talking about Wonder because she was the latest and greatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 hours ago, Sea Squirrel said: Wow, it didn't take long for the regulars to throw cold water. Sorry for hoping maybe Royal has kept a few secrets up their sleeve for Utopia and trying to spark a little conversation. Geez, this place is turning into a virtual Crown Lounge, lol. It wasn't a "what features from icon would you hope to see on Utopia" you asked a straightforward question and got answers that you attributed to what is perceived as negative behavior......which I think is unfair. Jamesszy94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPJJ-GCVAB Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 If there is just one thing they could bring to Utopia from Icon…it is: the controlled elevator bank! Love the idea of being told which elevator to get on and whoosh magically you head straight to the chosen deck! I was in NYC over the weekend and experienced that same concept at the Marriott Marquis! Best invention! Of course…world travelers here may have already known about this concept, but it was my very first experience and it made such a difference! Sea Squirrel, Ampurp85, WAAAYTOOO and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 I definitely should have phrased better @Ampurp85, you are correct. I was just being facetious in my comments. I've always appreciated both yours and @OCSC Mike comments/input. My apologies if I sounded snarky, I didn't intend it that way. Ampurp85 and OCSC Mike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Sea Squirrel said: I definitely should have phrased better @Ampurp85, you are correct. I was just being facetious in my comments. I've always appreciated both yours and @OCSC Mike comments/input. My apologies if I sounded snarky, I didn't intend it that way. No problem. I would love if they could of took things from Icon on Utopia but I think she was the last Oasis and pretty much designed before Icon. A great thought exercise would be what the rumored Discovery class would have, since it would be designed and built after both Icon and Oasis classes. Sea Squirrel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, PPPJJ-GCVAB said: If there is just one thing they could bring to Utopia from Icon…it is: the controlled elevator bank! Love the idea of being told which elevator to get on and whoosh magically you head straight to the chosen deck! I was in NYC over the weekend and experienced that same concept at the Marriott Marquis! Best invention! Of course…world travelers here may have already known about this concept, but it was my very first experience and it made such a difference! That's something I wish all the classes had. Stopping at every floor to get to the casino is definitely first world problems but something I wish I could avoid. PPPJJ-GCVAB, WAAAYTOOO and Sea Squirrel 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, Sea Squirrel said: I definitely should have phrased better @Ampurp85, you are correct. I was just being facetious in my comments. I've always appreciated both yours and @OCSC Mike comments/input. My apologies if I sounded snarky, I didn't intend it that way. No worries. I wasn't trying to be negative; I only said that b/c the deck plans are out there. I should have mentioned the fake food truck by the pool, lol. Thanks @tonyfsu21. Sea Squirrel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 Laughing at "fake food truck". I'll take it. The updated elevator banks would be nice. After watching Matt's walk tour, the NOLA style mixed drink machines and the upgraded milkshakes would make me a happy camper. I'd love the fresco Greek but probably a bridge too far. PPPJJ-GCVAB and Ampurp85 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Sea Squirrel said: the NOLA style mixed drink machines Careful what you wish for. I read somewhere (probably in the mod inaugural live blog) that they are using a different type of drink mix for those machines and that it was inferior to the cartons used on other ships. I'd love any/all of the new included food venues but that's just where my focus goes. So yeah, no downside to the fake food truck. PPPJJ-GCVAB and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 While I don't expect to sail on Icon for a number of years...heck, I haven't sailed Quantum yet...I think the dueling piano bar could be incorporated on a lot of ships in the fleet and would like to see it on new builds...same for Food Hall. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 49 minutes ago, OCSC Mike said: Careful what you wish for Lol, IDK. Some days I think they could be using formaldehyde and Sea Squirrel wouldn't care as long as my vouchers work, lol. AshleyDillo and OCSC Mike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I know the drink mix because I used it as a bartender many moons ago. It's not great but not so bad most people will notice a difference. But the marketplace or a food truck is an easy add imho. A lot of places sit empty on the smaller ships. OCSC Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown&AnchorEsq Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I tend to agree with the earlier brain trust that you wont see huge changes from Wonder to Utopia in overall structure and design but there might be some concepts that find their way in to Utopia, particularly if RCL finds that the concepts are making money on Icon. When oasis class was new the original update/amplification program was to bring Oasis-style updates to some of the older ships. I expect the next rounds in 3-5 years will be "iconification" where certain concepts are brought into the older ships. The elevator bank would seem to be a welcome change, there must be someone with PLC experience on the forums that can weigh in on whether the smart banks are options, though you would still need to work within the basic design so how would you do it? put a call pad at each bank or just one for fore/aft and the hope people scramble to the right car in time? I would think desserted would be easy to shoehorn in most ships and lounges, if popular can always be worked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 15 minutes ago, Crown&AnchorEsq said: I tend to agree with the earlier brain trust that you wont see huge changes from Wonder to Utopia in overall structure and design but there might be some concepts that find their way in to Utopia, particularly if RCL finds that the concepts are making money on Icon. When oasis class was new the original update/amplification program was to bring Oasis-style updates to some of the older ships. I expect the next rounds in 3-5 years will be "iconification" where certain concepts are brought into the older ships. The elevator bank would seem to be a welcome change, there must be someone with PLC experience on the forums that can weigh in on whether the smart banks are options, though you would still need to work within the basic design so how would you do it? put a call pad at each bank or just one for fore/aft and the hope people scramble to the right car in time? I would think desserted would be easy to shoehorn in most ships and lounges, if popular can always be worked in. if popular profitable can always be worked in. PPPJJ-GCVAB, jbrinkm, Sea Squirrel and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos A. Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I hope they bring the elevator system and the cabins Bathroom design/layout to Utopia. I hope they don't bring the cabin/balcony layout/furniture... PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 hours ago, Ampurp85 said: That's something I wish all the classes had. Stopping at every floor to get to the casino is definitely first world problems but something I wish I could avoid. I’m going to insert a plug for the use of the staircase which is highly underrated IMHO. PPPJJ-GCVAB, foxrunner, Ampurp85 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrinkm Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Not exactly the same thing, but in the main page article today: "We're always modernizing," said Liberty, "...the actions we took of Oasis [and] some of the learnings on Icon [are] going to be in the modernization of Allure of the Seas." asquared17 and PPPJJ-GCVAB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 40 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said: I’m going to insert a plug for the use of the staircase which is highly underrated IMHO. Agreed. I'm both extremely patient and extremely lazy... but when I cruise I take the stairs whenever possible. Between crowds, waiting, people coughing, lack of etiquette, etc., I just can't handle the elevators most of the time. I could lie and say it's for the exercise but it's definitely not, lol. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Squirrel Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 I guess it is safe to say we are hoping for those Icon escalators. Best of both words...win-win! PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottD Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 hours ago, Ampurp85 said: I know the drink mix because I used it as a bartender many moons ago. It's not great but not so bad most people will notice a difference. But the marketplace or a food truck is an easy add imho. A lot of places sit empty on the smaller ships. I just assumed the drink mix was like the bottled water...whatever the supplier gets,they use. People swear they always use island oasis at the bars, but they were definitely using a brand called "sunsational " on Oasis a few months ago. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I often take the stairs but leaving deck 16. ...isn't always stairs friendly to go to deck 4. On a good day can do 8 either way but no more than that. OCSC Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPJJ-GCVAB Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Stairs? Yup I love using them…when going down! But after 3 bouts with Covid over the last year and a half my lung capacity definitely diminished and going up the stairs causes much huffing and puffing ! I can manage 2 or 3 decks and then my heart is racing and breathing out of control. Very sad as I was always a “fit” person. Now it’s embarrassing how quickly I get out of breath! So… jbrinkm, RCIfan1912 and Ampurp85 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 On 1/31/2024 at 10:07 PM, Sea Squirrel said: Wow, it didn't take long for the regulars to throw cold water. Sorry for hoping maybe Royal has kept a few secrets up their sleeve for Utopia and trying to spark a little conversation. Geez, this place is turning into a virtual Crown Lounge, lol. Not throwing cold water; ships are divided into classes for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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