WAAAYTOOO Posted January 29, 2020 Report Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyalLaker said: Looks like they may redeploy spectrum https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22343-spectrum-of-the-seas-reportedly-being-redeployed-to-taiwan.html I think this is great news. Let's pray for a quick end to this nonsense. Big Tule and Ogilthorpe 2 Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 I suggest to wait around 10 days more. Few days ago they found that the virus can spread by people who do not show any signs yet . Once they found this fact the quarantine became tighten . Since the virus become active after 14 days from the infection we will know were we are going in about 10 to 14 days , if the numbers will still increase it will take some more few month but if the numbers of new infected people will start to go down it will indicate it's finally under control and the quarantine is effective Jzx1103, WAAAYTOOO and KristiZ 3 Quote
Andrew S. Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Posted January 30, 2020 6 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I think this is great news. Let's pray for a quick end to this nonsense. Will RCCL somehow inform its customers about the port of departure changes? I failed to find any information on cruise cancellations from Shanghai on official RCCL site. Should I call them or wait for official letter? Quote
Jzx1103 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Just heard Norwegian is denying boarding to anyone who's been to mainland China the past 30 days. They will be given a refund. Other cruiselines will likely follow. Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 And now in Italy ... Two people from China on one of the Costa ships are suspected to have the virus , The ship is now in Civitavecchia and all the passengers are not allowed to embark from the ship , I wonder if it will be for few hours or maybe for 14 days ... I have attached the link but its in Italian , got some translate from co workers here who knows my love for cruising https://www.leggo.it/italia/roma/coronavirus_civitavecchia_nave_crociera_ultime_notizie_oggi_30_gennaio_2020-5017564.html Big Tule 1 Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Traveler said: And now in Italy ... Two people from China on one of the Costa ships are suspected to have the virus , The ship is now in Civitavecchia and all the passengers are not allowed to embark from the ship , I wonder if it will be for few hours or maybe for 14 days ... I have attached the link but its in Italian , got some translate from co workers here who knows my cruise enthusiasm https://www.leggo.it/italia/roma/coronavirus_civitavecchia_nave_crociera_ultime_notizie_oggi_30_gennaio_2020-5017564.html Found the English version http://www.maritimebulletin.net/2020/01/30/chinese-pair-isolated-in-infirmary-6000-people-locked-in-costa-cruise-ship-italy/ 6000 people are being hold on Costa Esmeralda , apparently , the two people came from China and join the cruise on the second port of call , which mean they missed the first day , I Guess due flight issues. Now I wonder if cruise lines will start refuse people to board if they visit China on the last few weeks. I must say that when I came back from Canada last week (OR as I call it - running out from the freezer) I was not happy to find out that my United flight back home from Newark came few hours before from Shanghai. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Wow....this is going to snowball in a hurry. If the ports are beginning to quarantine the ships and not allow them to disembark at ports of call, it's going to get ugly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the ships begin to deny pax from mainland China. Quote
monctonguy Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 If the WHO declares it an emergency..it will lead to a lot more changes....Russia has closed their border to China this morning I read as well. Quote
Big Tule Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, monctonguy said: If the WHO declares it an emergency..it will lead to a lot more changes....Russia has closed their border to China this morning I read as well. SpeedNoodles, monctonguy and ellcee 3 Quote
Flacruiser99 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Big Tule said: ?????? Quote
cmdrfrag Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Not exactly Shanghai but...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51314138 As much as I'd love to extend my time on a cruise, this wouldn't be the way I'd want it to happen Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 The most disturbing part of this article, IMO is that the woman in question flew from Hong Kong. I wish the article had provided whether or not she originated from HK or if she had flown in from mainland China TO HK. My point is, if Hong Kong was her origination point then HK can no longer be considered a "safe" port. Quote
Zacharius Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, monctonguy said: Russia has closed their border to China this morning I read as well. As have, I believe, North Korea, Mongolia, Malaysia, Palau, and Kazakhstan, which has included cutting off visa-issuance to Chinese passport holders as well. There could be other countries too, those are just the ones I remember hearing off the top of my head. Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: The most disturbing part of this article, IMO is that the woman in question flew from Hong Kong. I wish the article had provided whether or not she originated from HK or if she had flown in from mainland China TO HK. My point is, if Hong Kong was her origination point then HK can no longer be considered a "safe" port. I tend to believe they are originally from China , first since this is what the Italian sites are saying , second since they were boarding the ship on the second port of call which mean they missed the first day I guess due to the flight cancellation from China. I guess they took the train or some other transportation to Hong Kong and catch a later flight. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, cmdrfrag said: Not exactly Shanghai but...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51314138 As much as I'd love to extend my time on a cruise, this wouldn't be the way I'd want it to happen Short update , the port authority already clear the ship , the local city authority are the one that refuse to let them off the ship currently . Maybe they can wait few more hours until my flight will leave Italy back home Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Traveler said: I tend to believe they are originally from China , first since this is what the Italian sites are saying , second since they were boarding the ship on the second port of call which mean they missed the first day I guess due to the flight cancellation from China. I guess they took the train or some other transportation to Hong Kong and catch a later flight. Quick update , The couple started the travel originally from Macao ... Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Traveler said: Quick update , The couple started the travel originally from Macao ... Basically, that's Hong Kong, right ? Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Basically, that's Hong Kong, right ? Not Honk Kong but like Honk Kong , It is a territory which was controlled by Portugal and moved to China , still keep independent immigration so if you go from Hong Kong to Macau you need a passport but like Hong Kong most people can travel there without Chinese Visa . Although Macau has international airport its quite small so most people will take the ferry (1 hour travel) from Macau to Hong Kong Airport to catch a flight (there is also a bridge now between the two cities). They also have their own currency and its the only place in China which gambling is allowed so they have huge casinos. Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Traveler said: Not Honk Kong but like Honk Kong , It is a territory which was controlled by Portugal and moved to China , still keep independent immigration so if you go from Hong Kong to Macau you need a passport but like Hong Kong most people can travel there without Chinese Visa . Although Macau has international airport its quite small so most people will take the ferry (1 hour travel) from Macau to Hong Kong Airport to catch a flight (there is also a bridge now between the two cities). They also have their own currency and its the only place in China which gambling is allowed so they have huge casinos. Thanks. I just meant that they are right there, together, geographically speaking. Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Thanks. I just meant that they are right there, together, geographically speaking. Oh sorry , yes 1 hour boat or a buss but the border can be closed very easily between the two so it's if you have outbreak at one of them they can control it if they catch it on time WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
Atlantix2000 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Flacruiser99 said: ?????? In the first month of 2020, there have been hostilities between Iran and the USA, Australia is on fire, Venice is underwater (though that might have been December), and China is sick. So the cartoon character is scared because there's 11 months left in the year. SpeedNoodles and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote
Andrew S. Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Posted January 30, 2020 The March 21 sailing of Spectrum of the Seas is currently scheduled to depart from Shanghai as planned. The company will be monitoring any developments relating to the coronavirus and "We'll notify impacted travel partners and guests immediately if any changes are made," the company said on Tuesday in a post on its official Twitter account. Newsweek.com Quote
Flacruiser99 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Atlantix2000 said: In the first month of 2020, there have been hostilities between Iran and the USA, Australia is on fire, Venice is underwater (though that might have been December), and China is sick. So the cartoon character is scared because there's 11 months left in the year. OK I got it. sometimes I'm a bit slow. Big Tule 1 Quote
Traveler Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Good news , the couple was tested and they are not infected. WAAAYTOOO and Big Tule 2 Quote
Zambia-Zaire Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 WHO(World Health Organization) has now declared..... https://apnews.com/0f0f07b30c8cdd2b0f30c6081acc7599 Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 https://www.sciencealert.com/this-chart-shows-how-the-wuhan-virus-compares-to-other-recent-outbreaks Quote
steverk Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: https://www.sciencealert.com/this-chart-shows-how-the-wuhan-virus-compares-to-other-recent-outbreaks Thank you for sharing. That chart does put things in perspective. Quote
Atlantix2000 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: https://www.sciencealert.com/this-chart-shows-how-the-wuhan-virus-compares-to-other-recent-outbreaks That chart seems way too feel good compared to the world wide reaction. There are plenty of rumors about the number of infections and deaths being hidden including reports that crematoriums are disposing of bodies that aren't being counted. In the last couple decades, I can't remember travel restrictions coming anywhere close to what we are seeing today. And China is building multiple hospitals just to treat/quarantine people with this disease. When is the last time you heard something like that? WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that information. Quote
Blossom Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 Quantum of the seas that was supposed to be leaving from Hong Kong on 24th Feb is now leaving from Singapore, same date. Not sure where I go from here as it was booked with travel company and not Royal Caribbean direct. Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blossom said: Quantum of the seas that was supposed to be leaving from Hong Kong on 24th Feb is now leaving from Singapore, same date. Not sure where I go from here as it was booked with travel company and not Royal Caribbean direct. Contact your travel agent. Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: Contact your travel agent. Immediately ! Quote
Blossom Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: Contact your travel agent. Have done, but as they are having to deal with departures that are happening in the next few days, they are unable to give my any answers at the moment. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
Ray Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 St Lucia turning away ships now https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/243718/st-lucia-away-cruise-ship Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ray said: St Lucia turning away ships now https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/243718/st-lucia-away-cruise-ship Yikes !!! Quote
Zambia-Zaire Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 Cruise ships are problematic...since in many cases, they're already a floating pastry dish, with access to many locations. So, I understand the concern of some of these small island nations. A small outbreak can devastating to their small population & wreck havoc to an already weak economy & infrastructure. Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said: Cruise ships are problematic...since in many cases, they're already a floating pastry dish, with access to many locations. LOL, I think you meant petri dish, but considering the amount of food there is on the ships, I think floating pastry dish works, too! Ogilthorpe, SPS, USCG Teacher and 6 others 1 8 Quote
Zambia-Zaire Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 LoL...sorry, word predict on my phone gets on my nerves at times. Big Tule and KristiZ 2 Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said: LoL...sorry, word predict on my phone gets on my nerves at times. I thought it was an awesome autocorrect! Quote
Andrew S. Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Posted February 3, 2020 I noticed that RCI has deleted cruise sale from Shanghai on Feb 13th though there was no stating that officially. Quote
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