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2 hours ago, RJCruise said:

I believe that its a French Gov decision and the Quantum class too big for Isle of Pines and Lifou. Radiance was to go to these two islands in 2023 and from what I remember Voyager was ok there as well.

Yeah, I've been to those two islands on both Radiance and Explorer.

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3 hours ago, twangster said:

With the rates of the '24 TP I'm seeing I think I'll stick to TA's. 🙂 

That 18 night TP 24 cruise on Ovation looks good, but at 18 nights I most certainly would need a suite and your right the prices for a grand suite or higher are pretty high.  

There is nothing wrong with window shopping 😁

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I agree. Not much variety in the South Pacific especially with Quantum or Ovation. There is also Mare island (looks like Enchantment is stopping there) and I believe a few years back there was Luganville in the Vanuatu outer island of Santo as a stop. Interesting that you say about Quantum/Ovation are too big for Isle of Pines & Lifou especially when they are both tender ports. Must be on the amount of passengers. 

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1 hour ago, Chili said:

I’m still amazed they are advertising Tahiti on the trans pacific

Big cruise ships are allowed in Tahiti and Moorea. Big ships are banned from Bora Bora, the rest is okay

With isle of Pines and Lifou, I believe the draft of the Ovation is too deep. It is fairly shallow, especially Isle of Pines where both the Radiance, Voyager/Explorer dredge up a lot of sand when moored and engines used to maintain position.  

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30 minutes ago, CruisingOz said:

Big cruise ships are allowed in Tahiti and Moorea. Big ships are banned from Bora Bora, the rest is okay

With isle of Pines and Lifou, I believe the draft of the Ovation is too deep. It is fairly shallow, especially Isle of Pines where both the Radiance, Voyager/Explorer dredge up a lot of sand when moored and engines used to maintain position.  

I believe it’s from the start of this year,cruise ships with a capacity of more that 3,500 (I don’t know if that’s passengers or all up ) are ban from French Polynesia full stop.

From what I believe Quantum class usually has about 4,500 passengers and about 1,000 crew.

So unless they reduce the capacity,I can’t see them being allowed to stop there.

 

https://cruisepassenger.com.au/news/french-polynesia-to-ban-mega-ships-from-calling-at-their-ports/

 

Here’s. another one.

 

 

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/as-more-ports-ban-mega-cruise-ships-what-is-the-future-of-the-largest-vessels

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On 3/19/2022 at 7:35 PM, CruisingOz said:

I am so upset, and I hope it is an IT glitch. All Radiance of the Seas departing Sydney Australia have been removed and in fact if you search worldwide, Radiance cruises are blocked out for the whole period it was due to sail our waters. I have/had three booked, which I only booked last week. 

How are you going with the canceled Radiance cruises .

 I have a group which I booked through a agent and we are just totally devastated. All the planning for years,gone down the drain. 
We had a Serenade cruise to tassie booked 3 years ago it was moved to ovation,then Radiance and now trying to move it back to Ovation.

They where all suites but there next to nothing available .
 

The agent and RC are all pretty none respondent.

 

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19 hours ago, Chili said:

next to nothing available

It is a nightmare and Royal and TA consolidator have long wait times and no solutions. One of my cancelled cruise was a 13 night Sth Pacific JR suite and under the L&S rules, there are only 12 night New Zealand but no JR suites and so nothing to change to. Also they have lost my deposit, we have the receipt so that will work itself out, but the casino credit seems a loss. 

I want to take advantage of the Australian double points offer and want to sail the South Pacific as already doing NZ, but the itineraries are nothing like what Radiance offered. Prices are really high as cabin stock is low, so value for money really is not there. I am frustrated but there really is nothing I can do.    

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4 hours ago, CruisingOz said:

It is a nightmare and Royal and TA consolidator have long wait times and no solutions. One of my cancelled cruise was a 13 night Sth Pacific JR suite and under the L&S rules, there are only 12 night New Zealand but no JR suites and so nothing to change to. Also they have lost my deposit, we have the receipt so that will work itself out, but the casino credit seems a loss. 

I want to take advantage of the Australian double points offer and want to sail the South Pacific as already doing NZ, but the itineraries are nothing like what Radiance offered. Prices are really high as cabin stock is low, so value for money really is not there. I am frustrated but there really is nothing I can do.    

I think Marlon Brando Was right about dealing with Royal Caribbean.

 

 

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On 3/22/2022 at 7:15 PM, RJCruise said:

I believe that its a French Gov decision and the Quantum class too big for Isle of Pines and Lifou. Radiance was to go to these two islands in 2023 and from what I remember Voyager was ok there as well.

I’ve been trying to research that but couldn’t find anything.

Can you think where you heard it ? 

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Initially travel agent. Received an email from Royal regarding itinerary amendment back in Aug 2018 involving Lifou and Isle of Pines being removed from the ports of call on our Ovation cruise. I don't believe the Ovation has been to these ports since this time. The notification was possibly internal through Royal and cruise wholesalers etc but remember hearing similar comments onboard that cruise. Ovation now very limited in ports in South Pacific - Mystery Is, Vila and Noumea.

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1 hour ago, RJCruise said:

Initially travel agent. Received an email from Royal regarding itinerary amendment back in Aug 2018 involving Lifou and Isle of Pines being removed from the ports of call on our Ovation cruise. I don't believe the Ovation has been to these ports since this time. The notification was possibly internal through Royal and cruise wholesalers etc but remember hearing similar comments onboard that cruise. Ovation now very limited in ports in South Pacific - Mystery Is, Vila and Noumea.

Some of those islands where pretty overwhelmed,Mare used to hire a lot of private vans to shuttle passengers.

What you say does add up ,the big ships aren’t calling into there anymore.

Its interesting that voyager is still allowed. There’s rumours that voyager has be swapped in the Baltic for serenade.

 I think I would prefer Voyager to enchantment next season  if it happens.

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30 minutes ago, Chili said:

 I think I would prefer Voyager

The amplified Voyager was an awesome ship. In my opinion it provided the best relaxation and activities between the Radiance and Ovation class. Our first cruise was on Rhapsody back in 2013 and recently on the Grandeur, so do not mind the Enchantment, but would far prefer a Radiance or Voyager. For us, it would be about the destinations and Mare is one of my favourite ports seldom visited, so the ship is not a big deal.

Lifou and Isle of Pines would never be able to handle an Ovation with 6000+ passengers, they do not have the infrastructure. In Lifou, Jinek Bay Marine Reserve limits the daily numbers and Isle of Pines coral has been destroyed by tourist and again, the island elders wanted to limit daily numbers. Not to mention they are both tender ports and and so even the Voyager struggled with queues, both on and off the ship.        

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Small world, our first cruise was also on Rhapsody - Jan 2013. We were really impressed by the ship. Cruised many times on Radiance, Voyager and Explorer. Like them all. Moving the Diamond lounge on Voyager was a bugger as we liked the original area upstairs. Have to agree with Mare. Excellent main beach. On our one and only P&O cruise went to a place called Champagne Bay which was really nice but have never seen a Royal cruise go there.

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1 hour ago, CruisingOz said:

Lifou and Isle of Pines would never be able to handle an Ovation with 6000+ passengers, they do not have the infrastructure. In Lifou, Jinek Bay Marine Reserve limits the daily numbers and Isle of Pines coral has been destroyed by tourist and again, the island elders wanted to limit daily numbers. Not to mention they are both tender ports and and so even the Voyager struggled with queues, both on and off the ship.        

It even seemed crowded when we went there on Pacific Dawn in 2010. 

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9 hours ago, RJCruise said:

Small world, our first cruise was also on Rhapsody - Jan 2013. We were really impressed by the ship. Cruised many times on Radiance, Voyager and Explorer. Like them all. Moving the Diamond lounge on Voyager was a bugger as we liked the original area upstairs. Have to agree with Mare. Excellent main beach. On our one and only P&O cruise went to a place called Champagne Bay which was really nice but have never seen a Royal cruise go there.

Yes, small world. The Rhapsody cruise was the reason we fell in love with cruising. Champagne Bay, in my opinion, is the best beach in the world. We went there once on a Royal cruise which also visited Luganville and it was either the Radiance or Explorer we sailed on. We were supposed to sail there again on the Voyager 13th February 2021, but covid killed that sailing. I am always looking for Champagne Bay as a destination with no luck, yet.

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On 4/1/2022 at 3:10 AM, CruisingOz said:

Yes, small world. The Rhapsody cruise was the reason we fell in love with cruising. Champagne Bay, in my opinion, is the best beach in the world. We went there once on a Royal cruise which also visited Luganville and it was either the Radiance or Explorer we sailed on. We were supposed to sail there again on the Voyager 13th February 2021, but covid killed that sailing. I am always looking for Champagne Bay as a destination with no luck, yet.

I’ve been thinking of a cruise on spectrum out of Singapore around July .

But it has a 3 months absence from Singapore in July,August,September and most of October.

Any ideas where it goes?

 

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11 hours ago, Chili said:

I’ve been thinking of a cruise on spectrum out of Singapore around July .?

 

Same, now the entry requirements into Singapore and returning have been relaxed it's possibly worthwhile now.

Although be careful on itinerary.. Royal are being pretty dodgy and selling cruises that aren't even possible. Thailand have not approved ships to enter their country as of yet.

Sorry, I'm dark on them at the moment. Royal customer service is terrible. Trying to get a deposit back from October. Keep telling me to wait 45 days, call back after 45 days, nothing done about it, they escalate to supervisor which then takes another 45 days, wait 45 days, repeat all over again. Useless! Will take your money in an instant but when it comes to giving it back.. no one at that company knows what TF they are doing.

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