Atlantix2000 403 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 @Pima1988, I'm not saying my contribution is worth changing the rules, but take a look at the other thread. Post after post of non-smokers saying they'd gamble more or be willing to start and not a single smoker saying they'd stop gambling. Even if every non-smoker only contributed a bit of play, there are literally thousands of them available to fill all the empty chairs I see when I walk through the casinos. I'm absolutely confident that Royal would make more money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetirementFun 1 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 I am a Diamond and a casino VIP - and a smoker If RCI stopped all smoking, I would change cruise lines immediately (and yes, I spend well over $250 every night in the casino). I also cruise with RCI 6-8 times a year. On my last cruise (2 weeks ago) I asked well over 50 smokers what they would do if RCI stopped smoking in the casino - every single one (except for 1 person who said they were going to quit smoking soon) said they would change cruise lines immediately. RCI is considering a ventilation system to remove the smoke - yes, it's expensive but works. Lets hope they do that and everyone will be happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WAAAYTOOO 11,623 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, RetirementFun said: Lets hope they do that and everyone will be happy. If that were only true.... There are some who will never be happy until smoking is banned. That’s just the way it is... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Traveler 2,199 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 In the Casino business its all about statistics and math. From the time you step into the casino you are being tracked , they know exactly which machines/games you like , if you are smoking/no smoking , average time of playing and much more. Therefore you can be sure that if the data will show that making the casino no smoking will bring more money they will do it in seconds. Just to give some numbers , to get to prime status you need to gain 2500 points which is around 12500 $ if the machines are given back around 90% it means 1250 lost and much more , for Signature you need to have 25000 points which means 125000 $ or statistic lost of 12500 $ (minimum). So if they have many smoking signature/prime they will need to replace each one that will not cruise with RC at least 50 non smoking that spends 100$ to 300$ per cruise ... . And yes for sure there are many non smoking signature or prime. So people that saying they will come to gamble if the casino will become a non smoking casino , are they talking about 2500 $ per cruise or 50$-200$ ? I Guess RC think they know the answer for now. By the way , I tend to think that on a cruise , mainly the short ones the % of smokers are much bigger than the 15% as many are still social smokers and tend to smoke in vacation or with Alcohol . So how you can make the casino non smoking (which I think can be a good thing) and still not loose any business ? very simple . same as it was done in the bars and restaurants, making all the main cruise lines ban Smoking in the Casino ... Do you think non smoking in bars and restaurants would work if some would go non smoking and some will stay like that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 25,746 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, Traveler said: From the time you step into the casino you are being tracked , they know exactly which machines/games you like , if you are smoking/no smoking , average time of playing and much more. Therefore you can be sure that if the data will show that making the casino no smoking will bring more money they will do it in seconds The caveat to this - they can't track people that never go into the casino because it's too smokey. For this they rely on projections and trends in the industry. Their Celebrity data will go a long way as a source of information. 54 minutes ago, Traveler said: ...all the main cruise lines ban Smoking in the Casino I suspect they are watching as society slowly grows less tolerant of smoking. At some point when they feel they can use it as a strategic advantage over the competition they'll pounce. Smoking anywhere has been eliminated. Balcony smoking has been eliminated. It's just a matter of time but they fear jumping too early and giving the competition an opportunity to use it as an advantage so basically we have a Mexican standoff. Who has the balls go first? Who is going to flinch? Traveler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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