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On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 10:43 PM, twangster said:

Carnival has moved a number of ships in and out since Libery had been glued to Galveston.  Don't get me wrong, Liberty is a great ship, but briefly adding Vision or Enchantment doesn't come close to Carnival's movement and rotation of ships into TX, including it's largest ships.  

This is exactly what led us to try out Carnival. While we loved Liberty we just like to try out different ships since we only cruise once a year. Although I didn't even particularly love the Carnival Breeze they have now brought in the Vista which is their 2nd best ship and it was a little enticing. Thankfully this announcement of the Oasis class coming in has completely squashed that interest in the Vista and I know now that I will always be sailing Royal Caribbean out of Galveston.

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Currently, Royal is offering only short cruises out of Galveston (4-5-7 days).  We would love to see longer itineraries that could perhaps reach So America.  We have done back to back several times on the Liberty, but as everyone has said - that gets tiresome - to go to the same ports.  We have flown to Florida to get longer cruises.  The cost of the airfare would pay for another week on the ship out of Galveston.  

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47 minutes ago, ranchlady403 said:

Currently, Royal is offering only short cruises out of Galveston (4-5-7 days).  We would love to see longer itineraries that could perhaps reach So America.  We have done back to back several times on the Liberty, but as everyone has said - that gets tiresome - to go to the same ports.  We have flown to Florida to get longer cruises.  The cost of the airfare would pay for another week on the ship out of Galveston.  

Unfortunately Royal doesn’t currently have any cruises to South America. Celebrity and Princess have most of the market there sprinkled with an occasional Holland America. But I would love to them do more in South America. They used to do Brazil but not right now 

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I have never done a back2back; yet alone, even consider such a compelling thing. However, unless the itinerary is different on the 2nd leg of a B2B, than yes, I certainly agree, what would be the enjoyment of that, unless you are one of those, that either just like the ship or just desire to completely unplug & relax, regardless of itinerary.

 

Yet, one thing I do ponder...why don't any cruise line have cross-port itinerary? For an example: porting out of Galveston, include stops in New Orleans or Mobile or even Tampa(not all on the same itinerary; but rotate between, if stops was allowed), before heading to Progresso, Cozumel, Belize, etc. I suspect that would increase more interest & variety.

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On 2/23/2019 at 12:15 PM, Zambia-Zaire said:

Yet, one thing I do ponder...why don't any cruise line have cross-port itinerary? For an example: porting out of Galveston, include stops in New Orleans or Mobile or even Tampa(not all on the same itinerary; but rotate between, if stops was allowed), before heading to Progresso, Cozumel, Belize, etc. I suspect that would increase more interest & variety.

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Maybe i 'm not understanding your question but if I am, they are out there, you just need to look harder.  I've seen Royal sailings out of NJ that port in Florida before sailing further to the Caribbean.   Also some San Diego departures stop at San Franciso as well as Seattle before finishing up in BC.   I would venture to say all lines do something similar

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On 2/23/2019 at 11:15 AM, Zambia-Zaire said:

Yet, one thing I do ponder...why don't any cruise line have cross-port itinerary? For an example: porting out of Galveston, include stops in New Orleans or Mobile or even Tampa(not all on the same itinerary; but rotate between, if stops was allowed), before heading to Progresso, Cozumel, Belize, etc. I suspect that would increase more interest & variety.

Your example includes some ports with "challenges".  Tampa requires a 3-4 hour transit from the pilot station through Tampa Bay to reach the port.  There is also a nasty bridge that limits the port to Radiance class and smaller.  Losing 4 hours inbound and 4 hours outbound would make for a short day in port.  New Orleans is even worse.  The transit up the Mississippi River takes 8+ hours.  Mobile isn't a port for Royal.  They have no contracts in place for the dock workers or terminal access.  It's also limited to smaller ships. 

The last factor is cruise marketability.  Who wants to board a ship and cruise to the state next door or two over?  Some may, most don't.  They want Caribbean ports.  The Gulf is so big if you don't speed directly South it becomes difficult to include an international stop on the itinerary to make the cruise legal per US law.  Going "sideways" in the Gulf makes it very hard to reach another country without it becoming a much longer cruise.

When Vision of out NOLA dropped CocoCay and swapped in Miami thousands complained.  They didn't want to go there, they wanted Bahamas.  

For ships out of the greater NYC area that stop in Orlando (Cape Canaveral) at least it's warmer and many states away.  You feel like you went on a vacation and it's Florida.  

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That's interesting it take thst amount of time to transverse the New Orleans port...that is challenging.

 

As far as visiting NO from Galveston, I would disagree. Although the majority of cruisers cruising out of Galveston are from the Great State of Texas, a stop in NO would be just as enjoyable as going to Freeport, Progresso, or Costa Maya. It's certainly more familiar to cruiser & more American. They wouldn't be push to buy, Bourbon St. is a popular destination, as well as the unique clubs, bars, and cuisine. I think if what you say is true about the challenges & time at port, probably makes it less viable for cruise lines to make NO a "port of call" than just because it's next door. Still a number cruisers cruising out of Galveston are not from Texas or come from western & central part of the huge state, that would love to experience what NO has to offer. Again it also keep down the redundancy of some Caribbean locations. The same can be said for Tampa, imo...especially at the right time of year, during those cities many festivals.

You know...you are so right however about Mobile...didn't realize Mobile port was that small & inadequate. A major expansion & upgrade to accommodate mid-size ship, could go a long ways and help that area a lot...some good beaches there...Orange Beach & Pensacola comes to mind.

 

Great info twangster as always. 👍

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South Padre Island is trying to build a port to be a port of call. I think New Orleans would be a better port of call, but with Galveston and NO in competition with each other, I don't see it happening. I think a great itinerary would be a 7 day sailing out of Galveston going to New Orleans, Key West and Cozumel (Alternate Grand Cayman).

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