J_Keeble Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I highly suggest joining the Facebook group, its certainly keeping me upto date on peoples experiences for the Dubai season. I have not heard anything negative so far. apart from Sir Bani Yas being cancelled due to wind. Jewel of the Seas 202 Dubai and UAE season - All you Neeed to Know! pmanchester and bobroo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Thanks for the welcome. Ill keep my eye on the news and hopefully RC keep me up to date with any potential cancellations as much as they do with the latest deals on new cruises! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, pmanchester said: If RC do pull the cruise do we get a full refund or credit towards another cruise ? Typically if Royal does completely cancel you get a full refund to your method of payment or sometimes they will also give you the choice of some price protected alternative cruises (meaning that if you locked in a great price on your category room you can rebook onto another sailing even if the current pricing is higher). They will sometimes offer a $200 flight change/fee reimbursement per person. If they end up sailing but with a modified itinerary it won't be a full refund. bobroo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Typically if Royal does completely cancel you get a full refund to your method of payment or sometimes they will also give you the choice of some price protected alternative cruises (meaning that if you locked in a great price on your category room you can rebook onto another sailing even if the current pricing is higher). They will sometimes offer a $200 flight change/fee reimbursement per person. If they end up sailing but with a modified itinerary it won't be a full refund. Thanks for this info. I'll keep an eye on my emails from them. What's strange is I cannot login to my cruise planner at present. I did recently bid on a Royal Upgrade so I wonder if something is updating in the background... Checking past emails though from when I have bid and been succesful I usually got the confirmation 15-21 days before the cruise. This though is a good 40 ish.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantix2000 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Tony D said: What I find pretty poor from RCCL is that they have been quick to send repeated payment reminders, but no updates or communications regarding the tensions and that the cruise will go ahead To be fair, those are automated payment reminders. Why would they stop sending those if they have no current plans to alter the itinerary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry w Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 We go to Dubai in two days with our cruise from 13th! I need to know of any changes now. RCs view on risk would be helpful. We can't expect no risk, but they must have a view. That might make all the difference. We are going to cancel tomorrow unless we have better information. Bearing in mind they have recently disrupted shipping and still have the capability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Royal has been very quiet on the matter so my guess is that they are not worried, usually they plan a week or so in advance for say things like hurricanes or cruise voyage disruptions due to unrest but nothing at all has been published apart from they are monitoring the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Tony D said: I am booked on a Gulf cruise in March. It is a tricky situation as the balance payment is due in a couple of weeks, so at the moment I would only lose the deposit if I cancel. What I find pretty poor from RCCL is that they have been quick to send repeated payment reminders, but no updates or communications regarding the tensions and that the cruise will go ahead, I will wait until the last minute, but my thoughts at the moment are to just cancel due to the uncertainty. I suspect Royal is waiting on a significant amount of cancelation by their customers, to minimize the number of payback, before they themselves cancel sailings. There's also the possibility they are looking at the viability of changing some itineraries to more durable locations. Either way, yes, I'm sure it's a "bottomline" & safety consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said: I suspect Royal is waiting on a significant amount of cancelation by their customers, to minimize the number of payback, before they themselves cancel sailings. I think this is a very astute observation. The more people that panic and cancel up front, the less money they have to refund if and when they decide to cancel or modify the sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 When I had to skip a cruise at the last minute for family reasons I just did a no show and didn't call to cancel. Figured anything could happen like maybe a mechanical breakdown and they'd cancel the cruise. That didn't happen but there was no incentive to notify them I'd be missing the cruise so I didn't. F1guynz, J_Keeble, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, twangster said: When I had to skip a cruise at the last minute for family reasons I just did a no show and didn't call to cancel. Figured anything could happen like maybe a mechanical breakdown and they'd cancel the cruise. That didn't happen but there was no incentive to notify them I'd be missing the cruise so I didn't. Pretty good idea! Kinda like playing "who blinks first" with the possibilities. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Baked Alaska said: Pretty good idea! Kinda like playing "who blinks first" with the possibilities. . . Yup..you also can't get any kind of insurance (aside from CFAR) coverage if you cancel before the ship does. The cancellation is the event that triggers an insurance "loss" and if you self-cancel then it isn't considered a covered event. The cruiseline has to cancel and then you have to get all the appropriate documentation for anything that the cruiseline doesn't refund or issue you a credit for. Even CFAR is limiting because it's only a partial reimbursement of losses for most policies and the coverage is $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John W Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 If RC want to encourage loyalty they should realise the honest majority do not want to continue with forthcoming cruises in this area. . It has seriously tested my loyalty after all these years. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Yup..you also can't get any kind of insurance (aside from CFAR) coverage if you cancel before the ship does. The cancellation is the event that triggers an insurance "loss" and if you self-cancel then it isn't considered a covered event. The cruiseline has to cancel and then you have to get all the appropriate documentation for anything that the cruiseline doesn't refund or issue you a credit for. Even CFAR is limiting because it's only a partial reimbursement of losses for most policies and the coverage is $$$. I insure all my cruises and insure them with CFAR. The kicker, usually, is that you must insure the cruise within 14 days of your first payment. Would never cruise without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Gratton Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 What happened in Cuba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashfan Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just found this post on Facebook. I can't find the group it was posted on, I just searched for Royal Caribbean Dubai. There's no indication of where the person who posted it got the information from. " Today Royal Caribbean are now cancelling cruises around Dubai... one woman from Newcastle has just had confirmation she's going in February" J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Joey Gratton said: What happened in Cuba? I believe the Cuba situation had a grandfather clause attached to it to phase out over several weeks, if not months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandA Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Traveling in the Mideast has been dangerous since well since the Crusades; recently sailing the gulf has had threats from Somalia pirates and the Iranian Navy. There are dangers anytime we leave our houses, we have to stay aware of our surroundings and everyone has to make decisions based on their own comfort level. Frankly the gulf was dangerous before the last situation and while it may have increased a bit, the US Navy will be even more vigilant in protecting the sea lanes. I'm positive Royal doesn't want to lose a ship and will make a decision as soon as they have the information they need. As I type this Iran has launched missiles at military bases in Iraq and I full expect a swift response to this. This latest action may cancel some cruises. J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantix2000 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 hours ago, John W said: If RC want to encourage loyalty they should realise the honest majority do not want to continue with forthcoming cruises in this area. . It has seriously tested my loyalty after all these years. Do you have any proof that a majority of those booked on Dubai cruises are canceling? Even though most of the posts here say they are canceling or considering it, that may not reflect the current situation. That said, with Royal already having no cruises booked past March 2020, I tend to agree they don't see Dubai as profitable or safe (or some combination) enough to continue so I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull out even sooner. As others have said though, it's financially better to wait for the cruise line to make the decision to cancel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Atlantix2000 said: To be fair, those are automated payment reminders. Why would they stop sending those if they have no current plans to alter the itinerary? It would just be nice if they put the same amount of effort into producing a news page or email updates. Bearing in mind that a lot of people must have concerns and no news just encourages rumours and speculation. Epernay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Ashfan said: Just found this post on Facebook. I can't find the group it was posted on, I just searched for Royal Caribbean Dubai. There's no indication of where the person who posted it got the information from. " Today Royal Caribbean are now cancelling cruises around Dubai... one woman from Newcastle has just had confirmation she's going in February" Interesting. I'm due to go in February from Dubai, hopefully if true they contact me soon. Did you find the dates this lady was informed it was cancelled on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 hours ago, John W said: If RC want to encourage loyalty they should realise the honest majority do not want to continue with forthcoming cruises in this area. . It has seriously tested my loyalty after all these years. speak for yourself. I See no problem going on this cruise. Saying that, if I become inactive after march you know I made the wrong decision :L bobroo and Martin Wheatley 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 I just had an update from Royal Caribbean "We understand how worrying the situation in the Arabian Gulf is. However, we have not cancelled any Dubai sailings and are monitoring the situation very closely. If there is a change to your reservation you will be notified directly from us. As of right now you will still be going on your honeymoon" - Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry w Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Its good to get something from RC. We fly tomorrow so need to know today. Please think about those who are spending 3 days in Dubai pre cruise. An extra week in Dubai will not be welcome, J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 57 minutes ago, pmanchester said: I just had an update from Royal Caribbean "We understand how worrying the situation in the Arabian Gulf is. However, we have not cancelled any Dubai sailings and are monitoring the situation very closely. If there is a change to your reservation you will be notified directly from us. As of right now you will still be going on your honeymoon" - Lucas was this a response to you reaching out to them? an email or social media messaging service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, J_Keeble said: was this a response to you reaching out to them? an email or social media messaging service? Sorry, I should of said. I contacted them over facebook messenger stating I had heard some rumors that the Feb cruises were cancelled, that was their reply. J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 I have just seen on Facebook group that military jets planes have just flown over the cruise ship lets just say I don't think it was the red arrows display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanchester Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, J_Keeble said: I have just seen on Facebook group that military jets planes have just flown over the cruise ship lets just say I don't think it was the red arrows display Interesting pool side entertainment... Is the facebook group a private one or is anyone free to have a look ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/groups/617524912351272/ it is private but your request will be accepted fairly quickly. pmanchester 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashfan Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, pmanchester said: Interesting. I'm due to go in February from Dubai, hopefully if true they contact me soon. Did you find the dates this lady was informed it was cancelled on ? Sorry no. Like I said I just searched Facebook for "Royal Caribbean Dubai" and it came up as a post somewhere on Facebook. WAAAYTOOO and pmanchester 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 9:04 PM, deep1 said: I think the best thing is to take a deep breath. Iran has been saber rattling since 1979... Recent years they have behaved badly a few times with no response. When they killed American citizens last week they crossed a line and were spanked. They tried our embassy. Guess what? We have a less tolerant president than Obama this time and we repelled it. We saw opportunity to take out a terrorist who was responsible for thousands of deaths over the years going back to Beirut 1983. We did just that. Ok, they are jumping up and down and screaming but they lack the tools to mount a real offensive. For that matter I don't see that they have the tools to defend either. I see the word "escalation" used here ... I prefer to look at it as a few uncomfortable moments ending a war before it gets started... It has not gone well for any country to push too hard against the coalition. I have a hunch that their survival instinct will outweigh their desire to continue their little tantrum. Peace through a show of force if you will. Remain vigilant and follow advice from your respective countries as to the safety of passage through questionable waters. Also bear in mind RCL does have your best interest as their best interest. I don't think they have any intention of serving up billion dollar ships into arms way either. For those impacted. I wish you well and sober decisions will be made to answer your questions. It appears that the tensions are subsiding. Peace through strength prevailing. Not all the way out of the woods but significantly better. Last nights deliberate "missing" signifies that Tehran is not really interested in getting into a fight they can't win. I'm hoping those that will be going through the affected areas have wonderful relaxing cruises... DublinFC, Louise Metcalfe, pmanchester and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Metcalfe Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 I'm booked on jewel of the seas next Monday (13th January 2020) obviously we are a little apprehensive, but Royal Caribbean have assured us that it's under no threat!!??! Has anybody heard any different or anyone else going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just cancelled today, I don't want to be thinking about this situation and the uncertainty for the next two months. So it's off to Cape Verde instead. Mandy lemon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John W Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Louise Metcalfe said: I'm booked on jewel of the seas next Monday (13th January 2020) obviously we are a little apprehensive, but Royal Caribbean have assured us that it's under no threat!!??! Has anybody heard any different or anyone else going? We were due to go 13 th .. have cancelled. We could not relax and would be apprehensive. That's just our opinion of course. Hope you have a great holiday Mandy lemon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chmusar Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 The Facebook page is great for hints and tips for the UAE, since looking at it I booked my tickets for the Abu Dhabi mosque online as you get in quicker (apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy lemon Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, John W said: We were due to go 13 th .. have cancelled. We could not relax and would be apprehensive. That's just our opinion of course. Hope you have a great holiday We were also due to go on the 13th, was deliberating all weekend if we should go or not. In the end we took the financial hit, and booked an all inclusive break to Mexico instead go on the 15th. Luckily we paid very little for our cabin, got our drinks package and excursion money back and put this towards our new trip. Feel like a massive weight has been lifted from my shoulders now. Holidays should be for total relaxation not to be extra vigilant. Read on Facebook fighter jets flew over the ship today, I would have literally had a melt down. I know I’ll be relaxing with my mojito now WAAAYTOOO, John W and Epernay 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Looks like Dubai is not only NOT cancelled, but now on sale (two nights for Sidney more than 7 nights for Dubai): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Baked Alaska said: Looks like Dubai is not only NOT cancelled, but now on sale (two nights for Sidney more than 7 nights for Dubai): The $218 price is correct. That $152 price isn't a thing, though. If you actually go into it and look, the cheapest fare is $477 for an Oceanview Guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogilthorpe Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 It may have been valid briefly, I saw it yesterday and the best price at that point was inside GTY for $333. The sale must have been popular! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just think, Royal is making a killing on these. Cancelled cruises inside the "forget it you lost it$$$" window and then putting in NEW passengers into those cabins (even at reduced prices). teddy, Ogilthorpe and Dan Curtis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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