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Bahamas to allow fully vaccinated travelers to bypass PCR testing requirement


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14 hours ago, wordell1 said:

Too me, once everyone that wants the vaccine has received it, we should return to pre covid normal.  Those who chose to be vaccinated should not be restricted because of risk to those who chose not to get it.

Not unlike the annual flu shot. I take the shot to reduce my chances of getting sick. If you don't get the flu shot (free on most insurance plans) and get sick, that's on you.

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11 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said:

Most of the country has been NOT wearing masks OUTSIDE all along, with limited exceptions.

Masks required to enter stores, restaurants, churches, etc. does not equate to wearing a mask before entering nor does it prevent removal as soon as one exits.

Where did you get this bit of information?

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9 minutes ago, princevaliantus said:

Where did you get this bit of information?

Personal experience having been in many states during the period referenced. Only one of those states "required" masks outdoors and it wasn't enforced in any significant way.

You may live in a jurisdiction that requires masks when you head out of your front door to walk to the mailbox and back, but wearing masks outdoors has never been a "thing" that I have had to deal with, nor have I heard/seen "official" CDC guidance that masks are needed outdoors.

Remember, the guidance has always been "when you are unable to maintain six feet of separation from others, wear a mask." It's easy to maintain six feet of separation in most situations outdoors.

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45 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said:

Personal experience having been in many states during the period referenced.

You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman!

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32 minutes ago, princevaliantus said:

You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman!

So by your own reasoning, you can't say that the info is wrong either

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23 minutes ago, wordell1 said:

So by your own reasoning, you can't say that the info is wrong either

The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt.

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1 hour ago, princevaliantus said:

The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt.

Reasonable doubt is a concept that is only applicable to criminal law.  The rest of us are content to believe what we see with our own eyes.  

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9 minutes ago, wordell1 said:

Reasonable doubt is a concept that is only applicable to criminal law.  The rest of us are content to believe what we see with our own eyes.  

And that's why I also stated "The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable" as I knew it wouldn't be nullified.

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10 hours ago, princevaliantus said:

You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman!

9 hours ago, princevaliantus said:

The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt.

Or maybe knowledge of more than half the states. Most of the US doesn't have to mean most of the people. It could mean most of the land (and I don't have to include Alaska to meet the standard).

(Apologies to Matt for continuing the thread drift).

The Bahamas is allowing fully vaccinated individuals to enter without testing. At the risk of being political, it appears the Bahamian Government is more progressive than that of the United States.

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Good info on vaccine results - this basic info has been out for a few weeks but this is from the CDC website itself  Hopefully we see some positive policy changes as a result.

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

Basically 87 million vaccinated and only 7157 "breakthrough cases" which is what they are calling cases where a vaccinated individual still get covid.

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