HeWhoWaits Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 14 hours ago, wordell1 said: Too me, once everyone that wants the vaccine has received it, we should return to pre covid normal. Those who chose to be vaccinated should not be restricted because of risk to those who chose not to get it. Not unlike the annual flu shot. I take the shot to reduce my chances of getting sick. If you don't get the flu shot (free on most insurance plans) and get sick, that's on you. Neesa and jticarruthers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said: Most of the country has been NOT wearing masks OUTSIDE all along, with limited exceptions. Masks required to enter stores, restaurants, churches, etc. does not equate to wearing a mask before entering nor does it prevent removal as soon as one exits. Where did you get this bit of information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: Where did you get this bit of information? Personal experience having been in many states during the period referenced. Only one of those states "required" masks outdoors and it wasn't enforced in any significant way. You may live in a jurisdiction that requires masks when you head out of your front door to walk to the mailbox and back, but wearing masks outdoors has never been a "thing" that I have had to deal with, nor have I heard/seen "official" CDC guidance that masks are needed outdoors. Remember, the guidance has always been "when you are unable to maintain six feet of separation from others, wear a mask." It's easy to maintain six feet of separation in most situations outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 Some cities had mandatory outdoor mask mandates for a while. Maybe some still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said: Personal experience having been in many states during the period referenced. You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: Where did you get this bit of information? Observation from being outside as often as possible HeWhoWaits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordell1 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman! So by your own reasoning, you can't say that the info is wrong either HeWhoWaits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, wordell1 said: So by your own reasoning, you can't say that the info is wrong either The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordell1 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, princevaliantus said: The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt is a concept that is only applicable to criminal law. The rest of us are content to believe what we see with our own eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 Please keep this discussion on topic. We're discussing the Bahamas allowing full vax people in without a test. teddy, Neesa, SpeedNoodles and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, wordell1 said: Reasonable doubt is a concept that is only applicable to criminal law. The rest of us are content to believe what we see with our own eyes. And that's why I also stated "The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable" as I knew it wouldn't be nullified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 hours ago, princevaliantus said: You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman! 9 hours ago, princevaliantus said: The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt. Or maybe knowledge of more than half the states. Most of the US doesn't have to mean most of the people. It could mean most of the land (and I don't have to include Alaska to meet the standard). (Apologies to Matt for continuing the thread drift). The Bahamas is allowing fully vaccinated individuals to enter without testing. At the risk of being political, it appears the Bahamian Government is more progressive than that of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, HeWhoWaits said: The Bahamas is allowing fully vaccinated individuals to enter without testing. At the risk of being political, it appears the Bahamian Government is more progressive than that of the United States. 100% agree!!! Like many, I'm counting down till it's time to sail on Adventure!! Neesa and rjac 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 Who knew RCBlog was a stringer for the Bahamas News? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 I wonder if The Bahamas will get some of these especially as they open vaccines to everyone there, despite not really having many to start with twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordell1 Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Good info on vaccine results - this basic info has been out for a few weeks but this is from the CDC website itself Hopefully we see some positive policy changes as a result. COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC Basically 87 million vaccinated and only 7157 "breakthrough cases" which is what they are calling cases where a vaccinated individual still get covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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