FManke Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 I know it doesn't happen frequently, but, with Grandeur on it's way out, which ship is next? Any thoughts and/or suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Unfortunately, Enchantment is scheduled to return to Baltimore to replace Grandeur. Enchantment was here a few years ago before Grandeur. I certainly hope they do some maintenance on Enchantment. It truly looks like a rust bucket right now and as Twangster told us a while back, there are sometimes significant internal maintenance that needs to be done as well. gmanager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, FManke said: I know it doesn't happen frequently, but, with Grandeur on it's way out, which ship is next? Any thoughts and/or suggestions? Imho...all the Vision Class ship needs to go; plus, Majesty & Empress. Time for Royal to look forward, away from these ships...these ships has more than paid for itself, a number of times over. Time to invest & build some newer, LNG, 110k ton ships, with many of the latest & greatest, that the can fit, in unique ways, never before thought of...to replace their aged small ships currently in the fleet. Grandeur had its time; as well as, the others I've mentioned. Time to start replacing those, with newer, intimate versions of those ships, something on the timeline of the Icons, while starting to phase those much beloved, older vessels out.....imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinFC Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Will a Radiance class ship fit into the Baltimore Port? I read or heard on the podcast that larger ships can not fit into the port/harbor area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, DublinFC said: Will a Radiance class ship fit into the Baltimore Port? I read or heard on the podcast that larger ships can not fit into the port/harbor area. There is much debate about this. The answer is...nobody is really sure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyC Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Zambia-Zaire said: Imho...all the Vision Class ship needs to go; plus, Majesty & Empress. Time for Royal to look forward, away from these ships...these ships has more than paid for itself, a number of times over. Time to invest & build some newer, LNG, 110k ton ships, with many of the latest & greatest, that the can fit, in unique ways, never before thought of...to replace their aged small ships currently in the fleet. Grandeur had its time; as well as, the others I've mentioned. Time to start replacing those, with newer, intimate versions of those ships, something on the timeline of the Icons, while starting to phase those much beloved, older vessels out.....imho. Majesty and Empress aren't going anywhere for awhile - they can go places no other ships can, like Cuba and Hamilton/St. Georges in Bermuda. Not everyone wants the big flashy bells & whistles, so those of us need something in the Royal fleet too. There is something to be said for classic-style cruising. Jmille58, MrB, Vwjo and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, KathyC said: Majesty and Empress aren't going anywhere for awhile - they can go places no other ships can, like Cuba and Hamilton/St. Georges in Bermuda. Not everyone wants the big flashy bells & whistles, so those of us need something in the Royal fleet too. There is something to be said for classic-style cruising. Agree. And also keep in mind that the Vision class ships do well in some of the Europe itineraries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, KathyC said: Majesty and Empress aren't going anywhere for awhile - they can go places no other ships can, like Cuba and Hamilton/St. Georges in Bermuda. Not everyone wants the big flashy bells & whistles, so those of us need something in the Royal fleet too. There is something to be said for classic-style cruising. That's why I specifically stated, 110ton ships...they would small & intimate enough to port in many of the locations you mentioned plus more, while providing an ever more newer experience. These ship does not have to have water slides, trampolines, & flowriders; but, still provide so techno wonders like 270 for an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srp431 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Enchantment is my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyC Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Zambia-Zaire said: That's why I specifically stated, 110ton ships...they would small & intimate enough to port in many of the locations you mentioned plus more, while providing an ever more newer experience. These ship does not have to have water slides, trampolines, & flowriders; but, still provide so techno wonders like 270 for an example. I don't think the 110ton ships can go to the ports I mentioned. Empress was brought back specifically for Cuba, and Grandeur, who is less than that, has always docked at the Royal Dockyard, not Hamilton or St. Georges. 110 ton is pretty big for those places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 12 hours ago, KathyC said: I don't think the 110ton ships can go to the ports I mentioned. Empress was brought back specifically for Cuba, and Grandeur, who is less than that, has always docked at the Royal Dockyard, not Hamilton or St. Georges. 110 ton is pretty big for those places. I've been to Bermuda twice, on Anthem & Escape...Bermuda is Bermuda. There tours and access to Hamilton or St George from King's Wharf...not a biggie. As far as Cuba is concern...Carnival was planning to sail there with the Carnival Sunrise(formerly the Triumph), which is a 102 ton ship...seriously, come on. " Carnival Cruise Line What It Is: After entering Cuba early with Fathom, Carnival Corp. arrived at the island in June 2017 with Carnival Paradise. At 2,052 passengers, the ship became the largest vessel sailing into Cuba. Paradise will be replaced as the largest ship to call on Havana when Carnival Sunshine arrives in November 2019, sailing the first-ever Cuba cruises from Charleston. The line is also marking the first Cuba cruises from Norfolk, in 2020, along with the line's first Cuba cruises from New York in May 2020. Carnival has announced more than 100 sailings will call on Cuba from seven ports through the 2019/2020 season; the most homeports setting sail for Cuba than any other cruise line. " https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=2703 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 18 hours ago, DublinFC said: Will a Radiance class ship fit into the Baltimore Port? I read or heard on the podcast that larger ships can not fit into the port/harbor area. Yes -- it is, in essence, the same size as the Carnival Pride, which shares the Cruise Maryland Port with Grandeur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 My real issue with Enchantment is the lack of Specialty Restaurants ..... they have one vs the 3 that Lady G has. As for which one would go next..... since they were built in pairs (Legend/Splendour -- Grandeur/Enchantment -- Vision/Rhapsody), logic would indicate Enchantment ..... but since she was enlarged, thereby increasing capacity, who knows. J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyC Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said: I've been to Bermuda twice, on Anthem & Escape...Bermuda is Bermuda. There tours and access to Hamilton or St George from King's Wharf...not a biggie. As far as Cuba is concern...Carnival was planning to sail there with the Carnival Sunrise(formerly the Triumph), which is a 102 ton ship...seriously, come on. " Carnival Cruise Line What It Is: After entering Cuba early with Fathom, Carnival Corp. arrived at the island in June 2017 with Carnival Paradise. At 2,052 passengers, the ship became the largest vessel sailing into Cuba. Paradise will be replaced as the largest ship to call on Havana when Carnival Sunshine arrives in November 2019, sailing the first-ever Cuba cruises from Charleston. The line is also marking the first Cuba cruises from Norfolk, in 2020, along with the line's first Cuba cruises from New York in May 2020. Carnival has announced more than 100 sailings will call on Cuba from seven ports through the 2019/2020 season; the most homeports setting sail for Cuba than any other cruise line. " https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=2703 I stopped paying attention to Cuba once the current President took my December cruise away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Zambia-Zaire said: I've been to Bermuda twice, on Anthem & Escape...Bermuda is Bermuda. There tours and access to Hamilton or St George from King's Wharf...not a biggie. I have to disagree with this sentiment. Docking right in Hamilton or Saint Georges is an entirely different experience than taking tours or local transportation to those locations. From King's Wharf you have to plan ahead for what time you want to do something in either of the towns. Being docked there allows much more flexibility. USCG Teacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said: I have to disagree with this sentiment. Docking right in Hamilton or Saint Georges is an entirely different experience than taking tours or local transportation to those locations. From King's Wharf you have to plan ahead for what time you want to do something in either of the towns. Being docked there allows much more flexibility. They have these little two-seaters mini-sports cars(forget what they call them)that you can rent for like six hours to drive all over the island...is what I was referring to. My wife & I went to St. George in one...she drove back. We spent the day driving around, seeing sights, hit the beach for a little bit, taking pictures, and hit a tee-shirt shop. Trust me, there's ways to get around and enjoy all the island have to enjoy...including Hamilton & St. George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff P Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 11:03 AM, WAAAYTOOO said: Unfortunately, Enchantment is scheduled to return to Baltimore to replace Grandeur. Enchantment was here a few years ago before Grandeur. I certainly hope they do some maintenance on Enchantment. It truly looks like a rust bucket right now and as Twangster told us a while back, there are sometimes significant internal maintenance that needs to be done as well. I agree, we were on Enchantment last year and while we had a great time, the ship has definitely seen better days. Hopefully they do a quick "refresh" if they're going to keep it around for a while. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pima1988 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I agree with everyone that I hope Enchantment gets a re-fresh. We were on her 3 yrs ago this week, sailed out of Miami. We enjoyed the cruise, but it was more about the itinerary than the ship. Port intensive. Once they bring her up to Baltimore there will be more time on the ship at sea and that is when you really start to see the wear and tear on any ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Pima1988 said: I agree with everyone that I hope Enchantment gets a re-fresh. We were on her 3 yrs ago this week, sailed out of Miami. We enjoyed the cruise, but it was more about the itinerary than the ship. Port intensive. Once they bring her up to Baltimore there will be more time on the ship at sea and that is when you really start to see the wear and tear on any ship. Which is one of the many reasons why adding more specialty restaurants is a good thing ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Or building a new smaller fleet of ships, as previously suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Zambia-Zaire said: Or building a new smaller fleet of ships, as previously suggested. I would see them move a smaller Celebrity ship into Baltimore (and other smaller markets) before they would build new ones..... just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, coneyraven said: I would see them move a smaller Celebrity ship into Baltimore (and other smaller markets) before they would build new ones..... just my opinion Yeah...not stating it as fact...just a probability they should consider, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron7763 Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 10:26 AM, Zambia-Zaire said: Imho...all the Vision Class ship needs to go; plus, Majesty & Empress. Time for Royal to look forward, away from these ships...these ships has more than paid for itself, a number of times over. Time to invest & build some newer, LNG, 110k ton ships, with many of the latest & greatest, that the can fit, in unique ways, never before thought of...to replace their aged small ships currently in the fleet. Grandeur had its time; as well as, the others I've mentioned. Time to start replacing those, with newer, intimate versions of those ships, something on the timeline of the Icons, while starting to phase those much beloved, older vessels out.....imho. On 11/1/2019 at 8:22 AM, HeWhoWaits said: I have to disagree with this sentiment. Docking right in Hamilton or Saint Georges is an entirely different experience than taking tours or local transportation to those locations. From King's Wharf you have to plan ahead for what time you want to do something in either of the towns. Being docked there allows much more flexibility. Empress has to be one of my all time favorite ships. Since her return to Royal, she has developed a following that many adore. Royal is re-introducing port that they (along with many other cruise lines) that they have not been able to sail to in many years due to port size limitations. The demographic that sails on these voyages do not need all the thrills that come with Voyager, Freedom, Oasis, and Quantum class ships. Give the food, good shows, and a place to read a good book book while watching he ocean pass by is all they need. The Empress, Majesty, Vision class, and Radiance class provided those amenities. The The Vision and Radiance are really a great class of ship that I am sad will be leaving. PRebecca and thepants 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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