Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, monctonguy said: My last cruise I just booked..I couldn't even figure out on the Royal site how to get a refundable rate for my booking... Funny you mentioned that. It just happened to us too. As I mentioned, we squeezed in one more short Navigator sailing after they announced the Loyalty 2x promo. For some reason, it would not let me access the refundable rate for a category VP. I followed the steps and entered all my info, then also did the same for Hubby. When I tried to click "next", it would not let me to the next screen to choose refundable. I tried several times throughout the day, same dead end. In the end, I just messaged my TA and she was able to access it. For this particular sailing, refundable was just over $200 more. I figured that breaks even because if I booked non-refundable and cancelled, I would lose $200 for the two of us. As I get closer to it (not until next November), I might move it to non-refundable. Most suites are automatically non-refundable, but when there is a category VP, I sometimes will play this game. I don't always use this strategy and I get what you are saying. Almost double is not worth it, IMO. cruisellama and monctonguy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregD 1,574 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Funny you mentioned that. It just happened to us too. As I mentioned, we squeezed in one more short Navigator sailing after they announced the Loyalty 2x promo. For some reason, it would not let me access the refundable rate for a category VP. I followed the steps and entered all my info, then also did the same for Hubby. When I tried to click "next", it would not let me to the next screen to choose refundable. I tried several times throughout the day, same dead end. In the end, I just messaged my TA and she was able to access it. For this particular sailing, refundable was just over $200 more. I figured that breaks even because if I booked non-refundable and cancelled, I would lose $200 for the two of us. As I get closer to it (not until next November), I might move it to non-refundable. Most suites are automatically non-refundable, but when there is a category VP, I sometimes will play this game. I don't always use this strategy and I get what you are saying. Almost double is not worth it, IMO. What Navigator cruise? Might need a short one to push us into Diamond status. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, emsff02 said: What Navigator cruise? Might need a short one to push us into Diamond status. Birthday short sailing round 2! lol 11/19/2021, are you booking? cruisellama 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fairlynew 351 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 11:25 AM, Matt said: View of @Lovetocruise2002in 2021 telling her children she will be absent for much of the year on solo cruises in suites She can tell them she is sacrificing for their sake-since they are still under 18, won't they become Pinnacle when she does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Fairlynew said: She can tell them she is sacrificing for their sake-since they are still under 18, won't they become Pinnacle when she does? Pinnacle is the only level that does not transfer to children. They are on their own for that one! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregD 1,574 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Birthday short sailing round 2! lol 11/19/2021, are you booking? looking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, emsff02 said: looking! It's only a 3 nighter but I can only take 2 days off work so it is what it is lol. teddy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fairlynew 351 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Pinnacle is the only level that does not transfer to children. They are on their own for that one! lol You can still tell them you’re doing it for them. cruisellama, Lovetocruise2002 and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cruisellama 672 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Its the thought that counts. HoosierCruiser94, Fairlynew, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregD 1,574 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: It's only a 3 nighter but I can only take 2 days off work so it is what it is lol. Well figures, that’s the weekend that my daughter has a cheerleading competition, and Heather coaches the team. I mentioned going solo and was able to duck just in time to dodge the pan thrown at my head. wstephensi, HoosierCruiser94, HeWhoWaits and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cruisellama 672 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 11:50 AM, WAAAYTOOO said: We have 100 night booked in 2021, all in suites. Not sure how the “C&A discount” clause is going to affect them. We rarely use the C&A discount anyway. Some random promo discount usually pushes the C&A Discount out. Many of these bookings are casino comps so no C&A discount was applied. SO...if all of them Sail and are awarded an extra point, we would accumulate 300 points in 2021. We currently need 190 points to make Pinnacle. It’s looking good ! It's a long slog to that level - if only we hadn't lost 2020, you'd probably be there already and enjoying the perks in '21 WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonCruiser 55 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 So here's a thought / question I have on this promotion... While I hope to all that is holy and not that cruising picks up again by fall 2021, I have to remember that we kept saying the same thing about fall 2020...so I'm very cautious and probably wouldn't have booked anything if not for the promotion. That said...if the cruise is cancelled...do you think the double points promotion will be shifted to whatever cruise I move it to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 25,611 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, CrimsonCruiser said: So here's a thought / question I have on this promotion... While I hope to all that is holy and not that cruising picks up again by fall 2021, I have to remember that we kept saying the same thing about fall 2020...so I'm very cautious and probably wouldn't have booked anything if not for the promotion. That said...if the cruise is cancelled...do you think the double points promotion will be shifted to whatever cruise I move it to? No one was expecting this promo so it's anyone's guess. If 2021 turns into a flop for most cruises it's conceivable they could extend it into 2022. If 2021 is mostly successful I don't think they will. The purpose of this promo was to increase bookings which it appears it may be successful in doing. With that goal accomplished it's unclear if they'll be motivated to extend the promo. On the other hand at this time next year if they still desire more bookings they may offer it again. It all depends how this plays out. The virus isn't over and there is no vaccine even in some limited capacity so I'm not sure anyone can safely predict what 2021 looks like. Sister line Celebrity did not include existing bookings in their double points promo so Royal could offer something like that going into 2022. JLMoran and CrimsonCruiser 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cruisellama 672 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, twangster said: No one was expecting this promo so it's anyone's guess. If 2021 turns into a flop for most cruises it's conceivable they could extend it into 2022. If 2021 is mostly successful I don't think they will. The purpose of this promo was to increase bookings which it appears it may be successful in doing. With that goal accomplished it's unclear if they'll be motivated to extend the promo. On the other hand at this time next year if they still desire more bookings they may offer it again. It all depends how this plays out. The virus isn't over and there is no vaccine even in some limited capacity so I'm not sure anyone can safely predict what 2021 looks like. Sister line Celebrity did not include existing bookings in their double points promo so Royal could offer something like that going into 2022. If 2021 is a bust - maybe no cruising until 3rd or 4th quarter of '21, the 2x points really isn't going to be realized by many people. I get that sinking feeling just another promotion to keep those deposits coming in. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 25,611 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, cruisellama said: If 2021 is a bust - maybe no cruising until 3rd or 4th quarter of '21, the 2x points really isn't going to be realized by many people. I get that sinking feeling just another promotion to keep those deposits coming in. Given that the Celebrity version of the program applies to new bookings only but not interior or oceanview and no solo cruisers I'd say it is a very targeted promotion to drive new bookings of higher margin cabins only. Very few promotions from any company during a pandemic are just to be nice. Hilton, Southwest, Delta, Hertz and more all have promotions relative to the loyalty programs. I think all of them are looking to capitalize on new business from loyalty members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mk-ultra 300 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 I really hope I'm interpreting this promo correctly. Normally, 7 nights solo in a suite is: 7 base points 7 points for being in a suite 7 points for being solo --- = 21 points --- So, 42 points with this promo? If so, holy smokes. I've got 2 cruises lined-up that would qualify (assuming mid-to-late 2021 isn't still tanked). Baked Alaska and cruisellama 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, mk-ultra said: I really hope I'm interpreting this promo correctly. Normally, 7 nights solo in a suite is: 7 base points 7 points for being in a suite 7 points for being solo --- = 21 points --- So, 42 points with this promo? If so, holy smokes. I've got 2 cruises lined-up that would qualify (assuming mid-to-late 2021 isn't still tanked). You are interpreting it correctly! Baked Alaska and cruisellama 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mk-ultra 300 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: You are interpreting it correctly! [George Takei voice] Oh myyyyyy! 340, here I come. Thanks for the confirmation Matt, WAAAYTOOO, cruisellama and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cruisellama 672 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 I was reading Mr. Fain's comments regarding the very controlled restart in early '21 which I interpret that if given the CDC green light, we'll see mainly "shorty" and limited excursion cruises for about a quarter. He's messaging what what's necessary, but if we're still in a "test and see" mode for an entire 1st quarter, I'm wondering how industry enthusiasm will be sustained for continued financial viability. More contraction on the way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerette 151 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 hours ago, mk-ultra said: I really hope I'm interpreting this promo correctly. Normally, 7 nights solo in a suite is: 7 base points 7 points for being in a suite 7 points for being solo --- = 21 points --- So, 42 points with this promo? If so, holy smokes. I've got 2 cruises lined-up that would qualify (assuming mid-to-late 2021 isn't still tanked). That is completely incorrect A 7 night cruise is normally 1point per night if not cruising solo in a regular room which would be 7points, solo in a regular room is 2points per night which would be 14points, solo in a suite would be 3points per night which would be 21points. Double points on a 7Nights cruise would be 14points for non solo in regular room which is 2points per night, 28points for solo in regular room which would be 4points per night, solo in a suite would be 42points which is 6points per night. According to what @Matt wrote about this topic of double points, an example of this would be: 7nightsx1point per night=7points (notsolo in regular room) 7nightsx2points per night=14points (solo in regular room points) 7nightsx4points per night =28points (solo in regular room & non solo in suites 7nightsx6points per night =42points (solo in suites) i hope I’m correct because I have 2 cruise lines up next year that would definitely qualify; 1 is in a regular room & the other is in a suite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 10,929 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Standard room: 2 points per night Suite room: 4 points per night Solo guest in standard room: 4 points per night Solo guest in suite: 6 points per night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonCruiser 55 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 18 hours ago, twangster said: No one was expecting this promo so it's anyone's guess. If 2021 turns into a flop for most cruises it's conceivable they could extend it into 2022. If 2021 is mostly successful I don't think they will. The purpose of this promo was to increase bookings which it appears it may be successful in doing. With that goal accomplished it's unclear if they'll be motivated to extend the promo. On the other hand at this time next year if they still desire more bookings they may offer it again. It all depends how this plays out. The virus isn't over and there is no vaccine even in some limited capacity so I'm not sure anyone can safely predict what 2021 looks like. Sister line Celebrity did not include existing bookings in their double points promo so Royal could offer something like that going into 2022. That's fair...the not knowing makes pre-planning a bummer... twangster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Va4fam 211 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just playing along at home......does a non solo 7 night JS count for 21 or 28 points? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lovetocruise2002 10,755 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Va4fam said: Just playing along at home......does a 7 night JS count for 21 or 28 points? With the loyalty promo, if you are sailing solo, 7 nights in a JS is 42 points. Two or more in the cabin, 28 points. Under normal circumstances, solo in a JS for 7 nights is 21 points. Double in the cabin or more is 14 points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Va4fam 211 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 thanks @Lovetocruise2002, I edited my question to specify this is not a solo cruise. If it was, my wife would not be happy. Sounds like 28 points is the winner. We have a JS booked in September and another in October= hello Diamond status! JLMoran and Lovetocruise2002 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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