cottoncandysunsets25 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hello! Does anyone have any insight on the kids sail free promo? I’m trying to book a cruise with 3 kids and when I do the guest breakdown each kid has a price associated with them. About $500+ for the cruise fare itself and just under $150 for taxes and fees. I understand paying taxes and fees but why are we charged for kids fare at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 You should see a fare, but in Discounts it will be subtracted out. Post a screenshot. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogalthorpe Haywood Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Not all cruises qualify for kids sail free Kirsten, RCIfan1912, teddy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottoncandysunsets25 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Xaa said: You should see a fare, but in Discounts it will be subtracted out. Post a screenshot. Bill Here’s a breakdown for one of our rooms. I’m so confused. I do see the “discount” for kids sale free. But the entire breakdown is kind of weird especially because the fare for each guest is higher than usual and there’s still a fee for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 The Kids Sail Free discount is the line that says "Free Kids NRD". Robert M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, cottoncandysunsets25 said: But the entire breakdown is kind of weird especially because the fare for each guest is higher than usual and there’s still a fee for kids. The per-person cost for a room for 2 people is usually lower than the per-person cost for a room for 3/4 people. So you can't really compare the per-person price for a double with the price for a triple/quad. I usually book one double and one triple, so I run into this all the time. Ryan79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I guess one way to compare if the kids sail free is "working" is to put the ages of the kids as 13. You should then get the "full price", as kids sail free is only for 12 and under. Ryan79 and Kirsten 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharla Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 KSF isn't always the best deal- they often raise the cruise fare so you're paying higher rates for guests 1&2 Pooch, Dlove707, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottoncandysunsets25 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Matt said: The Kids Sail Free discount is the line that says "Free Kids NRD". Thanks Matt! I noticed the discount there but after calculating everything they still charge the $670 for cruise fare and taxes so I’m wondering how come it isn’t completely free but I guess that’s just how it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottoncandysunsets25 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 5 hours ago, karl_nj said: The per-person cost for a room for 2 people is usually lower than the per-person cost for a room for 3/4 people. So you can't really compare the per-person price for a double with the price for a triple/quad. I usually book one double and one triple, so I run into this all the time. I had no idea of this until now because we usually are just booking for 2 but this time around we’re trying to get my whole family on board for their first cruise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottoncandysunsets25 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Sharla said: KSF isn't always the best deal- they often raise the cruise fare so you're paying higher rates for guests 1&2 Thanks Sharla! I think you’re right. The subtotal isn’t much off from when we priced without the KSF last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 10 hours ago, cottoncandysunsets25 said: Thanks Matt! I noticed the discount there but after calculating everything they still charge the $670 for cruise fare and taxes so I’m wondering how come it isn’t completely free but I guess that’s just how it is Correct, you aren't missing anything. Royal Caribbean is giving you the cruise fare for free. Taxes and fees aren't a cruise line cost, it's just passed on from various governments. Dlove707 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodionik Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Where can I get cheap things for babies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, goodionik said: Where can I get cheap things for babies? Goodwill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIfan1912 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 For anyone saying KSF is a scam or "doesn't save you money" I will just say we paid 2,400 yes 2,400 bucks for 7 nights on Anthem to Coco Cay 2 adults and 2 kids. If you want the actual price it was 2,408 for 4. I dare you to find a better deal? This last 9 night cruise on Liberty was 2,600 bucks, again 2 adults 2 kids. Liberty again next Oct, 9 nights 2,549 and these are all balconies by the way. If you are not getting a good deal with KSF you are doing something wrong. I am going to cry when our oldest turns 12 in about 1 and half years. ScottD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFCruise Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 10/5/2022 at 7:10 PM, Sharla said: KSF isn't always the best deal- they often raise the cruise fare so you're paying higher rates for guests 1&2 If I'm travelling with a kid, how could be I find a better deal? Not snarky, genuinely curious. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFCruise Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, RCIfan1912 said: For anyone saying KSF is a scam or "doesn't save you money" I will just say we paid 2,400 yes 2,400 bucks for 7 nights on Anthem to Coco Cay 2 adults and 2 kids. If you want the actual price it was 2,408 for 4. I dare you to find a better deal? This last 9 night cruise on Liberty was 2,600 bucks, again 2 adults 2 kids. Liberty again next Oct, 9 nights 2,549 and these are all balconies by the way. If you are not getting a good deal with KSF you are doing something wrong. I am going to cry when our oldest turns 12 in about 1 and half years. I just ran my current reservation (3 adults + 1 kid, 7 nights in Alaska) with 4 adults. The difference is rougly $350 less with a child. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIfan1912 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, JFCruise said: If I'm travelling with a kid, how could be I find a better deal? Not snarky, genuinely curious. Just have to find those kids sail free cruises but unfortunately I don't they do that on Alaskan cruises. I don't know though because I never really look them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFCruise Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, RCIfan1912 said: Just have to find those kids sail free cruises but unfortunately I don't they do that on Alaskan cruises. I don't know though because I never really look them up. Maybe I didn't make myself clear: I booked an Alaska cruise in April - it has KSF because it not during the blackout dates. I think the cost was fair, given it's QotS. But my question was regarding this quote: Quote KSF isn't always the best deal- they often raise the cruise fare so you're paying higher rates for guests 1&2 At least, to me, it sounds like there might be better deals available than KSF. I wonder what can be an example for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 16 hours ago, JFCruise said: At least, to me, it sounds like there might be better deals available than KSF. I wonder what can be an example for that. For a family of 4, with one kid below 12 and one kid above 12 it could potentially be cheaper to book 2 double occupancy rooms instead of one quad occupancy room. Especially if the travel agency has group space. tjcruisers, RCIfan1912 and Xaa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharla Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 hours ago, JFCruise said: Maybe I didn't make myself clear: I booked an Alaska cruise in April - it has KSF because it not during the blackout dates. I think the cost was fair, given it's QotS. But my question was regarding this quote: At least, to me, it sounds like there might be better deals available than KSF. I wonder what can be an example for that. Two rooms, regular or group rate. Often the rooms for 4 are more expensive than rooms for 2 by more than double. With or without KSF I have seen it cheaper to do two rooms than one room. DoomSlayer and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIfan1912 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 I actually tried this 2 room theory the other day on the Liberty 9 day cruise next October so I contacted my TA and instead of it being 2,549 it was over 10 thousand. Again, I have no idea where these idea are coming from but it seems far fetched. I wish it wasn't because I'd love to have 2 rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, RCIfan1912 said: I actually tried this 2 room theory the other day on the Liberty 9 day cruise next October so I contacted my TA and instead of it being 2,549 it was over 10 thousand. Again, I have no idea where these idea are coming from but it seems far fetched. I wish it wasn't because I'd love to have 2 rooms. Yeah, it really depends on the specific sailing and the exact point in time you are booking the cruise. You really just need to price out all your options at the time, and see what works best. Seems like RCL does dynamic pricing based on the cabin category. And Royal changes around the categories all the time (that is why you will see multiple versions of deck plans for specific time periods). If a particular sailing has sold mostly Quad Occupancy cabins compared to Doubles, then the price of those will be higher. If they haven't sold many Quad cabins, then they price would be lower. Same thing with Connecting cabins (if you are booking at a time period where Connecting is a different category) I've been sailing a lot when kids are out of school, so cabins for 4 tend to get booked up quickly, raising the price. I recall a time when I needed one cabin for 2 (for my wife and I) and one cabin for 3 (for my mom, son and daughter). My cabin had an amazing group rate price, the other cabin was at prevailing rates. My daughter, booked as a 3rd person, had a more expensive fare then I did. Was wild. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFCruise Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sharla said: Two rooms, regular or group rate. Often the rooms for 4 are more expensive than rooms for 2 by more than double. With or without KSF I have seen it cheaper to do two rooms than one room. Thanks for the answer. I checked to see how much my current booking would be if I changed from a 4-person cabin (1 kid) to 2 doubles and lol...no luck. Price was almost doubled. Maybe next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIfan1912 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, karl_nj said: Yeah, it really depends on the specific sailing and the exact point in time you are booking the cruise. You really just need to price out all your options at the time, and see what works best. Seems like RCL does dynamic pricing based on the cabin category. And Royal changes around the categories all the time (that is why you will see multiple versions of deck plans for specific time periods). If a particular sailing has sold mostly Quad Occupancy cabins compared to Doubles, then the price of those will be higher. If they haven't sold many Quad cabins, then they price would be lower. Same thing with Connecting cabins (if you are booking at a time period where Connecting is a different category) I've been sailing a lot when kids are out of school, so cabins for 4 tend to get booked up quickly, raising the price. I recall a time when I needed one cabin for 2 (for my wife and I) and one cabin for 3 (for my mom, son and daughter). My cabin had an amazing group rate price, the other cabin was at prevailing rates. My daughter, booked as a 3rd person, had a more expensive fare then I did. Was wild. I agree I didn't do this checking properly because I didn't check at the time of booking but I will going forward. I would like 2 connecting rooms for the kids and us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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