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Wow I hit a hot topic! 😀As for the newbies I never got any points. On the sailing solo, I enjoy having a baritone voice but the GF would see to it that I would become soprano if I went that direction. 😮 Some great ideas coming through though... Keep em coming... 

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On 5/7/2019 at 8:19 AM, tiny260 said:

If you do a land-sea cruise through Royal, one that I know is ride the train to an Alaska cruise, you get 1 point per night for the land part as well as the points you get for the sea part.

I have also never heard of getting point for referring people, OBC yes, points no.

To be sure of the details here ..... do you mean that you get points for the days you do the land portion (in addition to the cruise days)  or that there is an extra point tacked into the entire trip (e.g., 3 pts per day in a suite). I would guess the former, but it wasn’t clear so I thought I would check to be sure! Always looking to maximize 👊🏼

- NCL gives an extra point for some sailings, we got 3 pts per night in the Haven when we sailed to AK in June, but I have never seen one from RCCL where that was offered. 

 

@deep1 the topics here are all pretty hot, there are a lot of interested and knowledgeable cruises who hang around and try to help no matter the question 🙂

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1 minute ago, 2Beeze said:

To be sure of the details here ..... do you mean that you get points for the days you do the land portion (in addition to the cruise days)  or that there is an extra point tacked into the entire trip (e.g., 3 pts per day in a suite). I would guess the former, but it wasn’t clear so I thought I would check to be sure! Always looking to maximize 👊🏼

- NCL gives an extra point for some sailings, we got 3 pts per night in the Haven when we sailed to AK in June, but I have never seen one from RCCL where that was offered. 

If the land portion (Booked through RCCL) is 3 days you get 3 points, so a 3 day land with a 7 day cruise (Non-suite) is a total of 10 points.

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13 minutes ago, tiny260 said:

If the land portion (Booked through RCCL) is 3 days you get 3 points, so a 3 day land with a 7 day cruise (Non-suite) is a total of 10 points.

A person can dream... for about 10 minutes 😝

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6 hours ago, 2Beeze said:

To be sure of the details here ..... do you mean that you get points for the days you do the land portion (in addition to the cruise days).  

In 2017 booked a JS for 7 day south bound Alaska cruise on Radiance along with a 3 day land tour prior to the cruise.  We received 20 cruise points for the trip. 

Note we did not receive any up grade in travel or accommodation on the land tour portion of the trip. 

It was a great trip and a great way to celebrate 25 years of marriage!  Even renewed our vows on the ship with the Hubbard Glacier as a back drop.

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On 5/8/2019 at 12:43 PM, twangster said:

There a whole other strategy here.  Some people who cruise with friends take this to a whole new level. 

Put the wife solo in a JS and book the husband as a 3rd guest in a cabin with friends.  Wife get triple points, husband stays in that JS with her.  Husband pays 3rd guest rate, wife pays 340 reduced single supplement.  Wife climbs the ladder quickly, husband gets her status changes as she levels up.  

This can be cheaper than a solo inside cabin for husband.

Doesn't that mean the husband would always have to find the wife to get into their cabin?

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Just now, MonicaY said:

Doesn't that mean the husband would always have to find the wife to get into their cabin?

Welcome to the blog, Monica  !  Very good question.  Actually, they will be able to get another set of room keys from Guest Services so that they will each have a key to both rooms.

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On 5/8/2019 at 11:43 AM, twangster said:

There a whole other strategy here.  Some people who cruise with friends take this to a whole new level. 

Put the wife solo in a JS and book the husband as a 3rd guest in a cabin with friends.  Wife get triple points, husband stays in that JS with her.  Husband pays 3rd guest rate, wife pays 340 reduced single supplement.  Wife climbs the ladder quickly, husband gets her status changes as she levels up.  

This can be cheaper than a solo inside cabin for husband.

This is really good (as usual from you Twang) brings a whole new way to look at things.   Thank you!

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If Royal Caribbean was financially savvy they would look at all other successful customer retention programs and allow C & A members to buy cruise points.

Seriously, why would they not take cash in exchange for doing nothing more than typing some characters on a keyboard to raise a C & A status???

 

I 'd estimate a C & A point to sell for about $325.

 

By tabling this idea, here is a great way for some RCL middle manager to rocket his/her way to the upper level of management by creating this program of pure profit.

 

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33 minutes ago, bobroo said:

If Royal Caribbean was financially savvy they would look at all other successful customer retention programs and allow C & A members to buy cruise points.

Seriously, why would they not take cash in exchange for doing nothing more than typing some characters on a keyboard to raise a C & A status???

 

I 'd estimate a C & A point to sell for about $325.

 

By tabling this idea, here is a great way for some RCL middle manager to rocket his/her way to the upper level of management by creating this program of pure profit.

 

Doesn't this just make a loyalty program obsolete in the first place if you can "buy" your way to the top? 

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9 minutes ago, FManke said:

Doesn't this just make a loyalty program obsolete in the first place if you can "buy" your way to the top? 

More fun to buy your way to the top just by booking suites and taking the cruise 😉

 

And on edit.....booking into a full suite basically gets you just about everything from the loyalty tiers....faster on/off, special lounges, if the ship has star...free drinks and wifi.....special reserved seats etc etc etc

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1 minute ago, dodgestang said:

More fun to buy your way to the top just by booking suites and taking the cruise 😉

Isn't the journey half the fun of getting there? Or maybe in this case, most of the fun!

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43 minutes ago, bobroo said:

If Royal Caribbean was financially savvy they would look at all other successful customer retention programs and allow C & A members to buy cruise points.

Seriously, why would they not take cash in exchange for doing nothing more than typing some characters on a keyboard to raise a C & A status???

 

I 'd estimate a C & A point to sell for about $325.

 

By tabling this idea, here is a great way for some RCL middle manager to rocket his/her way to the upper level of management by creating this program of pure profit.

 

As a frequent traveler for work I can share there is a key difference in the cruise loyalty programs that will make purchasing the points problematic.  Hotel, car rental and airlines require an annual requirement to retain status and cruise lines your status is for life.  (There are a few exceptions such as million miler balances, lifetime diamond, etc.). 
 

The annual programs allow you to purchase up since there are always people that are leveling up AND down.  Since the cruise lines will never lower your status purchasing status would create an even bigger log-jam at the top tiers.  It is already getting strained as you can see by the threads on Diamond/plus status and the lounge and drinks.

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44 minutes ago, ScooterScott22 said:

As a frequent traveler for work I can share there is a key difference in the cruise loyalty programs that will make purchasing the points problematic.  Hotel, car rental and airlines require an annual requirement to retain status and cruise lines your status is for life.  (There are a few exceptions such as million miler balances, lifetime diamond, etc.). 
 

The annual programs allow you to purchase up since there are always people that are leveling up AND down.  Since the cruise lines will never lower your status purchasing status would create an even bigger log-jam at the top tiers.  It is already getting strained as you can see by the threads on Diamond/plus status and the lounge and drinks.

Part of my point is that a lot of the integrity of the top tiers has already been lost--we don't even get free tattoos anymore. And, we top tier folks are constantly being told that Royal does not want to honor the perks freely given in the past--bacon wrapped scallops have been replaced by chicken balls.  

From a business point of view,  you want to become a Pineapple from Day 1??? No problem, please remit your payment of $227,500; we'll send your welcome letter and gold name tag in 2-3 weeks. Oh! there's two of you? No, the BOGO sale doesn't apply to cruise point purchases, sorry. Your total is $455,000. 

I don't believe there is a logjam at the top levels. At this point in time it's just that the top levels are continually spending money and re-booking without being provided the same incentives. Royal has seen that they can take away/restrict the bennies without much backlash. Royal can afford to give a lot of free booze to someone who paid at least $26,000 to get it. I don't see any logjam; I see a company that properly curated customers.

 

Listen, Royal over the years has been a wonderful way for me to vacation. I enjoy it and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I also highly recommend it to others when I think it will be a good fit for them. RCL has also enabled me to see places and experience things that I otherwise would never have done on my own; I owe them a deep debt of gratitude for this. These experiences have made me a better person. As stated in a previous thread, I don't need a lapel pin to tell others where my allegiance is, I think you can tell by the way I act onboard.

If there are people who would like to ignore the intangible benefits of cruising and travel by buying some instant happiness, why not just put a number to it? It's free money. 

Maybe this type of buy-your-way-to-the-top program will be more palatable if it's just looked as an extension of the Royal Up program? 

 

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I would like to reach Diamond plus before they change the plan. However, I don't like the notion of buying points.

@bobroo said that C&A points might sell for $325. That's like $68,000 to reach the D+ level. I get that buying the D+ status would last but the whole purpose of the C&A society is to reward loyalty. I mean you could just as easily take 4 months off and cruise B2B in a Jr. suite solo and get the status. It would be more enjoyable and cost less.

I think RC needs to do a better job of distinguishing the services. I think the real issue is that you could cruise at Star level enjoying all, if not more than, the perks you would receive at D+. Unfortunately that is hard to do when the bottom line is to make money. Its hard to justify a suite, concierge, diamond/D+ lounge on every ship. Then add in the Key and you have a bunch of people fighting for perks. Since the Key and Suite guest "actually" paid for the perks, its easier to push the loyalty group to the side.

I think RC could offset this by loading more offers on sea cards. I find there are more than enough bars aboard every ship, some stay perpetually empty for hours. Maybe do some recon and block off hours so those D/D+ members can enjoy when there are too many" fancy-pants" aboard the ships. Maybe allow happy hour at multiple places across the ship. There are plenty of ways to keep RC bottom line black, without treating their loyal patrons like garbage.

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