Sev1020 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 The Empire Supper Club looks AMAZING. We sail on the Icon in July 2024 and have purchased the 3 night dining plan. The Empire Supper Club is not yet listed on our cruise planner. Hoping those sailing earlier then us can see more. Is that restaurant an add on option to the dining plan? or has to be booked separately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Sev1020 said: The Empire Supper Club looks AMAZING. We sail on the Icon in July 2024 and have purchased the 3 night dining plan. The Empire Supper Club is not yet listed on our cruise planner. Hoping those sailing earlier then us can see more. Is that restaurant an add on option to the dining plan? or has to be booked separately? Nobody really knows yet what will be included and excluded from the UDP/dining packages for Icon. My personal guess (and that's all it is) is that the supper club will not be included in the UDP. It sounds very much like Chef's Table to me. My hunch is the same will be true for the virtual dining train car option, whatever it's called. With the dining packages becoming more and more restrictive, I do not see them including some of these more "involved" dining options. We will be sailing Icon in Star Class in December 2024 and I am expecting some of these dining options to be an extra charge, should we decide to utilize them....and my first inclination will be to not pay extra for them. The train car thing, in particular, seems like it will be a "one and done" kind of thing for most people. I hope it's not another Wonderland blunder....but I haven't seen it yet so I will withhold final assessment. Hopefully I am completely wrong about all of it !! Ampurp85, Sev1020, TheMaxRebo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 I agree with @WAAAYTOOO, probably an extra. The train thing is just on Utopia though, I don't think there's one on Icon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Xaa said: I agree with @WAAAYTOOO, probably an extra. The train thing is just on Utopia though, I don't think there's one on Icon Oops...getting my new builds confused. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHardlyWait Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 I'm almost sure I just read somewhere that it will be separate from the plan. An additional fee if you have the plan. I think most will agree it's going to cost extra. I'm curious as to just how much. LOL. But the add ons for our May trip next year are soooo high, it probably won't happen for us anyway. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, CanHardlyWait said: I'm almost sure I just read somewhere that it will be separate from the plan. An additional fee if you have the plan. I think most will agree it's going to cost extra. I'm curious as to just how much. LOL. But the add ons for our May trip next year are soooo high, it probably won't happen for us anyway. It's in the description of the Unlimited Dining Package: Empire Supper Club is included with an additional surcharge. Please check onboard for surcharge pricing. TheMaxRebo, Sev1020 and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHardlyWait Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: It's in the description of the Unlimited Dining Package: Empire Supper Club is included with an additional surcharge. Please check onboard for surcharge pricing. I knew I just read it someplace. Lol. WAAAYTOOO and AshleyDillo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev1020 Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Thanks everyone I think we will book the Empire Supper Club on its own when it comes available and keep our 3 night package to Chops, Hooked and Habachi (can't get my family to pick Giovanni ) Happy Cruising Tjones, WAAAYTOOO and KristiZ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Nobody really knows yet what will be included and excluded from the UDP/dining packages for Icon. My personal guess (and that's all it is) is that the supper club will not be included in the UDP. It sounds very much like Chef's Table to me. My hunch is the same will be true for the virtual dining train car option, whatever it's called. With the dining packages becoming more and more restrictive, I do not see them including some of these more "involved" dining options. We will be sailing Icon in Star Class in December 2024 and I am expecting some of these dining options to be an extra charge, should we decide to utilize them....and my first inclination will be to not pay extra for them. The train car thing, in particular, seems like it will be a "one and done" kind of thing for most people. I hope it's not another Wonderland blunder....but I haven't seen it yet so I will withhold final assessment. Hopefully I am completely wrong about all of it !! One thing the train experience does have going for it over Wonderland is not needing to feature a weird and exotic ("imaginative cuisine") menu to keep on theme. If Royal feels a need to change it up, swapping out menus and destinations for a mass audience should be easier than updating Wonderland to something new. At least for the moment, the train does sound like a once and done, or seldomly done, like the Chef's Table or any of the other dining experiences due to the fixed menu. The Empire Supper Club also falls into this category, though considering how often I'm anticipating on sailing Icon (or Utopia for that matter), and I expect it's about the same for the average cruiser, it's a rather moot point. WAAAYTOOO and Sev1020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 We will be on the Inaugural Sailing on January 27th but we are not seeing the ESC available for reservations yet... Does anyone know what the word is on it? Is it already sold out? Not going to be ready in time? Just not listed yet? Thanks for any insight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Scary said: We will be on the Inaugural Sailing on January 27th but we are not seeing the ESC available for reservations yet... Does anyone know what the word is on it? Is it already sold out? Not going to be ready in time? Just not listed yet? Thanks for any insight! They are still working out the details. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/08/21/royal-caribbean-most-expensive-specialty-restaurant Check back every few weeks. Doug_Texas, Sev1020 and Scary 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 11 hours ago, twangster said: They are still working out the details. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/08/21/royal-caribbean-most-expensive-specialty-restaurant Check back every few weeks. That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the replay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaxRebo Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 9:14 PM, twangster said: They are still working out the details. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/08/21/royal-caribbean-most-expensive-specialty-restaurant Check back every few weeks. Thanks for sharing ing the link. Does sound like a full experience and while not cheap, that would cost a lot more on land Wonder if you have the drink package if any discount skid this included the cocktails Hoping to book this for my birthday when we are in the Feb 17ths sailing next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, TheMaxRebo said: Thanks for sharing ing the link. Does sound like a full experience and while not cheap, that would cost a lot more on land Wonder if you have the drink package if any discount skid this included the cocktails Hoping to book this for my birthday when we are in the Feb 17ths sailing next year There's no discount on the Chef's Table, a Taste of Royal, or the sake and sushi paring with the DBP. I wouldn't expect one on the Empire Supper Club. TheMaxRebo and Doug_Texas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 We are on the maiden voyage as well. It has never popped into the dining options so I'm sure it isn't sold out via Cruise Planner sales. Unless RCL is doing invitation only for maiden voyage it should pop in for sale in the future. I called customer service and they knew nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheri2 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 I just spoke with a RCCL Rep. He was able to book Empire Supper Club for my May trip but when he said the cost was $200.00 per person, I declined..... Sev1020 and Doug_Texas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Sheri2 said: I just spoke with a RCCL Rep. He was able to book Empire Supper Club for my May trip but when he said the cost was $200.00 per person, I declined..... THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!! I have been checking the cruise planner and the app for months every day for ESC. Thanks to your post I called and booked the ESC for the maiden voyage. It's still not on cruise planner or app. You are correct, $200 pp incl. gratuity. Xaa and Sev1020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Congrats @Doug_Texas. We'll be leaning on you for the first review! Doug_Texas and JohnK6404 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, Doug_Texas said: You are correct, $200 pp incl. gratuity. Known what upcharge is if one has Unlimited Dining Package? guessing the $200 is stand alone price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, AlmondFarmer said: Known what upcharge is if one has Unlimited Dining Package? guessing the $200 is stand alone price. Yes, $200 is individual booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Doug_Texas said: Yes, $200 is individual booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, AlmondFarmer said: There is a good chance living in Texas I won't be back on an Icon class for a long time and wanted to experience Empire Supper Club. In August Matt wrote, "The venue can only seat 38 people and there will be only one seating per night, which means this will be a hot ticket to get into given its low capacity." Given pushing 3 nt and Unlimited people to post embarkation reservations I feared it would be totally booked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 The wording is unclear to me re: Star Class. Are they diplomatically saying that SC will receive no discount at all for the Supper Club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquared17 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: The wording is unclear to me re: Star Class. Are they diplomatically saying that SC will receive no discount at all for the Supper Club ? to me the fine print reads: “if you have star class, you will pay the standard cover charge” which, it sounds like, is $200 (…in STAR CLASS?!) WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babsy47 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 With the Icon Star Class pricing (stratospheric), excluding the Supper Club seems absurd (and penny pinching). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: The wording is unclear to me re: Star Class. Are they diplomatically saying that SC will receive no discount at all for the Supper Club ? It's ridiculous, but it appears so... no discount for Star Class guests, only for folks with the UDP. Star Class guests should at least get the UDP discounted price! We like the new concept, but that $200 cover price is a little crazy! It's more than twice the cost of Chef's Table! I mentioned it to Christine tonight and she yelled, "no way!"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Doug_Texas said: In August Matt wrote, "The venue can only seat 38 people and there will be only one seating per night, which means this will be a hot ticket to get into given its low capacity." Yes, one seating daily at 6:00 PM for my 5/11/24 sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 I'm sorry to tag on, but is it just me? Are they still holding back on specialty dining restaurants for Icon? Only 4 specialty restaurants listed in the Cruise Planner (Chops, Giovanni's, Izumi Sushi/Hibachi, and Hooked). We know no Mason Jar, 150 Central Park, or Wonderland on Icon, but I can't imagine there will be fewer choices. ... or are they just offering more casual (no reservation) choices similar to Playmakers, Portside BBQ, etc. Sev1020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Supper Club has shown up in CP for me now. Does appear to be no discount for Star Class. Also formal attire is required. Should be a fun night, but I do think they are sticking it to Star Class, I thought it included UDP, so why not the same benefits as UDP? Don't answer, I know the answer to all of my questions is "money" WAAAYTOOO and Nicci 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckruetze Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 hours ago, JohnK6404 said: It's ridiculous, but it appears so... no discount for Star Class guests, only for folks with the UDP. Star Class guests should at least get the UDP discounted price! We like the new concept, but that $200 cover price is a little crazy! It's more than twice the cost of Chef's Table! I mentioned it to Christine tonight and she yelled, "no way!"... I think it sort of makes sense. If it is really that good. Star Class guests could fill the 38 seats easily. And if it would be included I guess there would be no chance for anybody else to ever go there. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquared17 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 hours ago, JohnK6404 said: I'm sorry to tag on, but is it just me? Are they still holding back on specialty dining restaurants for Icon? sort of feels like they’re still keeping some of the eatery options shrouded in mystery?? JohnK6404 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ckruetze said: I think it sort of makes sense. If it is really that good. Star Class guests could fill the 38 seats easily. And if it would be included I guess there would be no chance for anybody else to ever go there. I don't think it should be included, but at least they should get the same discount as those with the UDP at $130 pp. The number of Star Class guests is very limited compared to the folks with the UDP. ckruetze and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaxRebo Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just booked this for my cruise in February - do this for my birthday so willing to splurge a little. Based on how it is presented - with the food level, etc - I don't think the price is crazy, but we shall see One thing, it didn't show up in the app, but only when I logged in on th website JohnK6404 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev1020 Posted November 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just booked it for our July sailing. Looking forward to the special night TheMaxRebo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, JohnK6404 said: I don't think it should be included, but at least they should get the same discount as those with the UDP at $130 pp. The number of Star Class guests is very limited compared to the folks with the UDP. With only 38 person capacity and UDP having to wait until they are on the ship to make a reservation there is a pretty good chance no one actually gets the $130 price. I like this restaurant concept - over priced, yes - but I’ll only do it once. WAAAYTOOO, Nicci and JohnK6404 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 But the having to wait to book for UDP is going away per Matt's article from last week or the week before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Doug_Texas said: With only 38 person capacity and UDP having to wait until they are on the ship to make a reservation there is a pretty good chance no one actually gets the $130 price. I like this restaurant concept - over priced, yes - but I’ll only do it once. It certainly won't be easy... you figure on a week-long sailing (assuming every night is sold out) only a max of 266 guests will be able to experience it for the entire sailing. Please report back on your experience! Doug_Texas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Texas Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 ESC for 1/27 sailing disappeared from the web cruise planner and from the app. 3 Night Dining Package re-appeared today but in "sold out" status. I constantly feel like booking this stuff is like a game of Bingo. Maybe they pulled back ESC to leave slots for UDP and Star Class passengers at embarkation. Crazy game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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