Ampurp85 1,189 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 I have always been pessimistic, according to some posters, but I think they will cruise this year. I almost wish i had placed a bet in Vegas because I had middle September as my restart date. I stand by that date with October 1st be the latest possible restart date. Even with a second wave, that won't really happen as the 1st hasn't left, I cannot see them scraping the fall and winter season. I can see the ban being lifted on Aug 1st but that the cruise lines will need the next 45 days to get everything in order. The CDC are being douches, they won't extend but they won't approve until the last minute. Which would have left the lines scrambling and rushing, resulting in further delays. By voluntarily choosing to extend, they give themselves time to do things right. I think by Aug some international travel will be opened and countries will be more accepting of cruises. Ogilthorpe, Jill and sk8erguy1978 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveinSC 1,210 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ampurp85 said: The CDC are being douches WAAAYTOOO, jticarruthers, Ogilthorpe and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ogilthorpe 943 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 The CDC this afternoon .... mworkman, USFFrank, Kcusack89 and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kcusack89 102 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ampurp85 said: I have always been pessimistic, according to some posters, but I think they will cruise this year. I almost wish i had placed a bet in Vegas because I had middle September as my restart date. I stand by that date with October 1st be the latest possible restart date. Even with a second wave, that won't really happen as the 1st hasn't left, I cannot see them scraping the fall and winter season. I can see the ban being lifted on Aug 1st but that the cruise lines will need the next 45 days to get everything in order. The CDC are being douches, they won't extend but they won't approve until the last minute. Which would have left the lines scrambling and rushing, resulting in further delays. By voluntarily choosing to extend, they give themselves time to do things right. I think by Aug some international travel will be opened and countries will be more accepting of cruises. I'm with you. I hope my job lifts my 14 day quarantine too but not holding my breathe. Already told my manager I'm going if they sale and not to expect me back for 3 weeks I have the Vaca time since literally every one of my other plans got squashed Cruiseliners will not survive going 8+ months without revenue. Expect to see ships being sold and iteniaries canceled if they cancel the rest of 2020. Ogilthorpe and Neesa 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ehw51 268 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Maybe wishful thinking, but to use 9/15 instead of just going to 10/1, makes me hope that they have seen a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. Keeping my fingers crossed, at least We don´t sail till the end of Nov. (hopefully) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ampurp85 1,189 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 @ehw51 I don't think its wishful thinking, it is probably a realistic estimation. Remember RCCI voluntarily chose to suspend cruises in the beginning and then the CDC issued a ban. I am sure RCCI know what they are doing. Fain started to vaguely walk back on that Aug 1st date in I think May. When you consider NCL saying the CDC has been giving them the runaround, I can see RCCI wheels spinning to counteract that....aka the blue ribbon panel. I am sure some time in July we will hear some decent if not good news. ehw51 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
princevaliantus 1,291 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Well, next stock rise I will be dumping more RCCL stock along with CCL & NCL. Rather to win high than lose low. sk8erguy1978, Ogilthorpe and Neesa 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neesa 908 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 This is beyond ridiculous! The Cruise Line Executives really continue to be sitting pretty collecting their enormous salaries while hurting all of those around them in the industry. Have some FAITH in your product! Have some empathy for your travel partners besides putting out videos that say pretty much nothing at this point, be transparent! While you're at it Fain get a haircut and wash your own hands, clearly you have washed your hands of all who support you! And where are our REFUNDS?? Why can I still book sailings in August 2020? Shame on you! Poolside and Ogilthorpe 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaredhamburg 232 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, ehw51 said: Maybe wishful thinking, but to use 9/15 instead of just going to 10/1, makes me hope that they have seen a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. Keeping my fingers crossed, at least We don´t sail till the end of Nov. (hopefully) Or maybe they want to not have to give half a month of cruise refunds and also to spread out the workload for their staff.....I think it is just spreading it out at this point unless RCI gives us a real plan. Ogilthorpe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBRSKI 553 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 It blows my mind that Royal hasn't updated their site yet! Wait let me check on last time, wait, wait, wait, time stamp 5:46 6/19/20, NOPE! Talking about dragging the anchor! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaredhamburg 232 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just now, RBRSKI said: It blows my mind that Royal hasn't updated their site yet! Wait let me check on last time, wait, wait, wait, time stamp 5:46 6/19/20, NOPE! Talking about dragging the anchor! LOL That little gerbil powering IT can only work so hard.....It went into overtime yesterday... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBRSKI 553 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, jaredhamburg said: That little gerbil powering IT can only work so hard.....It went into overtime yesterday... I was surprised to find out today that I got my FCC for my Symphony sailing on 7/18/20 so certain things might be powered by something stronger then a gerbil! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sk8erguy1978 1,065 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: It blows my mind that Royal hasn't updated their site yet! Wait let me check on last time, wait, wait, wait, time stamp 5:46 6/19/20, NOPE! Talking about dragging the anchor! LOL I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure they are putting the final polish on whatever statement ... just thought we would have heard their official announcement by 5PM EST. As of right now, we just got dumped by our boyfriends friend :). LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnK6404 1,166 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 hours ago, RCIfan1912 said: My question is will they allow us to "lift and shift" even though its now cancelled? Can you only do that before Royal cancels? They should unless they change it again... starting with the announcement of 5/20/20 (global cancellation of cruises from 6/12/20-7/31/20), they added Lift & Shift as a 3rd option... just be aware that the deadline for L&S for a cancelled cruise is not the same as the deadline for the CWC voluntary L&S which is still 8/1/20. Two different policies and links on Royals website! Here were the options from that round of global cancellations on 5/20/20 - see Matt's post: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/05/20/royal-caribbean-will-cancel-all-sailings-through-july-31-due-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR2f-HZyv5Utzf1U5DOcHXdfgdjwj_X0D6_tXS-u2EiEYqccmlb106qmi7w Here is the current policy for Lift & Shift (specific to global cancellations) on Royal's site... remember that the first date listed is the cancellation date (eg. May 20th, 2020), not the sail date. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/itinerary-updates (click "Read More" link to expand to see Lift & Shift for current global cancellations)... What happens if you want to move your cruise? Lift and Shift (Only available for sailings cancelled as part of our global suspension on May 20th, 2020 or after) : If you prefer to move your existing booking to a 2021 sailing – we’re happy to move you! We will price protect the original pricing and/or promotion on the same itinerary, length, product, and stateroom category as your original sailing within 4 weeks (before or after) of the original sail date in 2021. For example, if you are moving from a July 30th, 2020 sailing, you can move to a sailing that is the same itinerary, length, product, and stateroom category, and the sail date between June 30th, 2021 – August 30th, 2021. If your sailing was cancelled on: • May 20th, 2020, please contact your Travel Advisor or call us by June 10th to move to a new sailing. If we don’t hear from you, we will automatically issue your Future Cruise Credit. • June 2nd, 2020, please contact your Travel Advisor or call us by June 17th to move to a new sailing. If we don’t hear from you, we will automatically issue your Future Cruise Credit. • June 9th or 11th, 2020, please contact your Travel Advisor or call us by June 25th to move to a new sailing. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Smith 4 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Was due to cruise 12th september. Looks like we've been cancelled again Snotarni and RCIfan1912 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill 915 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Ok I’ll throw someone a life jacket ........ We will cruise when foreign ports open. Remember, the US are not the only ports in the world. Royal sails out of several foreign ports. I’ll be curious if any non CLIA lines will start up sooner in Europe. (If there are any!) The suspension is for vessels over 250 passengers. I think these river cruises are still a go, in the US and Europe. They’re the guinea pigs in this. I’ll ask my friend who’s a hotel director for American Queen. From what he said the other day, they are still starting up July and August. Although with the recent spike in cases, they may extend as well. I realize it’s on a miniature scale but I’m sure the big guys will be paying attention to how they’re doing. Im going to continue to hold onto that sliver of hope my mid October Symphony is a go. It replaces my canceled May. Our FCC’s will fully pay that October cruise and all but $300 of our Italy/Greece Odyssey in 2021. I just hope the lines can hold out a little bit longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bossdog421 991 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just shy of my 9/20/20. If oasis still sails I'll be the first on her once things resume. Not going to cancel or shift. I'll test out new procedures for everyone. sk8erguy1978 and RCIfan1912 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jticarruthers 879 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Supposed to sail September 14th That makes seven cruises down in the last couple of months now .... ughh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCIfan1912 694 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, bossdog421 said: Just shy of my 9/20/20. If oasis still sails I'll be the first on her once things resume. Not going to cancel or shift. I'll test out new procedures for everyone. I will be interested to hear all about it so I really hope you sail. I thought our Sept 6th Oasis cruise might be one of the first out of NJ. I have heard rumors over the last week that NY/NJ cruises are finished for 2020 into 2021. This is from a TA source. Actually a TA CEO source. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bossdog421 991 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, RCIfan1912 said: I will be interested to hear all about it so I really hope you sail. I thought our Sept 6th Oasis cruise might be one of the first out of NJ. I have heard rumors over the last week that NY/NJ cruises are finished for 2020 into 2021. This is from a TA source. Actually a TA CEO source. Would suck if they did but ill wait for the official announcement. Some other vacation source will be glad to take my money im sure. RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCIfan1912 694 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, bossdog421 said: Would suck if they did but ill wait for the official announcement. Some other vacation source will be glad to take my money im sure. Everything sucks at the moment. We have more mess to go through. May cruise cancelled, got the FCC, used some got Sept 6. Now we have to see our options. Looking at August 22, 2021 if by a miracle they are up and cruising by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnK6404 1,166 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, bossdog421 said: Just shy of my 9/20/20. If oasis still sails I'll be the first on her once things resume. Not going to cancel or shift. I'll test out new procedures for everyone. Yep... as of now, Royal has removed all sailings out of Cape Liberty through mid-SEPT (and Miami, etc.)... the only three sailings that can be booked as of this moment are Adventure on 9/19/20 and Oasis on 9/20/20 & 9/27/20... the announcement is likely inevitable early next week... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean79 152 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 8:54 AM, jticarruthers said: Supposed to sail September 14th That makes seven cruises down in the last couple of months now .... ughh. Me too!! Why couldn't it be Sept 13th return to service!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedNoodles 4,535 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bean79 said: Me too!! Why couldn't it be Sept 13th return to service!!! There's no saying they'll return to service on Sept 15th, either. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCIfan1912 694 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Bean79 said: Me too!! Why couldn't it be Sept 13th return to service!!! I don't think it's gonna happen in Sept anyway unfortunately. We just talked to our TA (MEI) and moved to August 22, 2021. Maybe, I think maybe, hopefully maybe cruises will have resumed by then? Possibly maybe? WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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