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Because toilet paper is the cure for Covid-19. No, wait, it prevents coughing.  No, wait.....

Advising someone against cruising isn't the same as banning someone from cruising. If the government comes out and actively says "look, we don't think you should do it", that doesn't mean you can't. Heck, in my mind, that's great...cuts down on the crowds 😉
Nothing I see in that article says they're considering an outright ban, just an advisory against. 

Typically FCC can be used towards two different cruises but there are conditions. 
First of all FCC can only be applied towards cruise fare, not port fees, taxes, prepaid gratuity etc.  A cruise might cost you $3,600 but maybe $600 is taxes and port fees.  The $600 can't be paid using FCC (or whatever your fees and taxes are).
Secondly FCC will be issued on a per person basis.  When issued it's in that person's name and no one else can use it.  If I pay for my brother to join me and he pays nothing when FCC is issued I get some in my name and he will get a portion in his name that I can't use even if I paid for the original cruise.  Only if we have another cruise together can we use the full amount.  If he sails by himself on a future cruise he will have FCC he can apply to that cruise even though I paid for the original cruise. 
Thirdly the first cruise that FCC was applied towards has to be completed before the residual or left over FCC will be re-issued and available for application towards another cruise.  
FCC rules are very inconsistent.  Just because I've had success splitting an FCC means little going forward.  Like lightning, never the same twice.  I don't know how many splits you can do.  YMMV.

I think you can...but that's definitely a TA question.  I wanna say I read @twangster having success doing this before but not 100% sure. 
You have to keep in mind the FCC is only for the value of the cruise fare and port fees get refunded the way you paid them.  Also the FCC is issued to each individual on a booking based on what their fare was, taking into account any discounts.  So if you have different folks in your cabin for future cruises it jumbles things up a bit.

And you have to re-book a cruise in 2021 where they have hyped up prices! 😞 

Really? they are announcing this after their competitors have and not giving OBC to those choosing to stay on. Sure well done for doing the right thing but this hardly amazing from them.
 

I’m sure it’s a calculated decision where they had to weigh the risk of refunding cruise fare vs the risk of potentially spreading this or other illnesses.  I think we got a hint of this yesterday when we saw the post where the cruiser was able to get a cruise rescheduled when he documented a no-shit flu diagnosis.  That is unheard of but a Royal did it anyway.  Sometimes it’s best just to do the right thing.  Will some take advantage by feigning illness just to get their cruise postponed ?  Probably. But they will feel better and Royal will get credit for doing the right thing.

I thought we were having a discussion here.  I didn't realize only the experts can chime in.  Just to let you know, most of your posts on this forum have that tone in them.

Grandpa's plea deal is likely the best course of action for the family at this point in the game or they wouldn't go there.
The civil case is very different and not associated or bound to the government's criminal case against Grandpa.  
By accepting the plea deal the parents prevent a lot of discovery and evidence that might have worked against them in their civil case against Royal.  Grandpa is a puppet following orders.  

Aha! I knew it. 'Remember the old-style "ambulance chaser" lawyer? This guy's a cruise ship chaser.

Kennedy Space Center is a great place to visit. We had a blast there.

So parents want PR to drop all charges against the grandpa so they can sue RCL for millions - if they get a dime from the cruise line it will be a travesty of justice. I guess we could say that crime pays!. They filed a lawsuit against RCL which is a lie after lie, after lie. The pictures they enclosed are  more like pictures from the cruise ship ad  and not relevant to the case. And even these pictures show occasionally adults walking and sitting at the tables and nobody putting kids on the railing or windows!. Another news source shows their lawyer by the railing and looking at this picture alone  anybody would determine that you need to be absolutely reckless moron to put the toddler on this narrow window ledge. Also the railing height and distance to the window would deter any sane person to put there a baby. There is a general consensus that even if you happen to be suddenly color blind, anybody standing in front of the open window should feel the breeze. He admitted on CBS TV that he felt the breeze and could not feel the panel. Unless he is retarded, he should conclude that the window was open.  He is guilty of child endargerment and reckless homicide. There are warnings to stay away of the railings all over the ship and he ignored them. Apparently, even if RCL placed floating in the mid air "This window is open" sign, he would ignore too!
Crime online - Baby chloe parents lawsuit - HAHAHA!.pdf

This is great news! When we book suites we like the benefit of the Concierge Lounge. There is nothing worse then having it over run by Diamond + members who go in early and save seats. We pay a lot of money for this perk!  
 
On cruises we book in a non suite cabin we are happy to huddle with the unwashed masses in the Diamond lounge! 

This is great news! When we book suites we like the benefit of the Concierge Lounge. There is nothing worse then having it over run by Diamond + members who go in early and save seats. We pay a lot of money for this perk!  
 
On cruises we book in a non suite cabin we are happy to huddle with the unwashed masses in the Diamond lounge! 

Whoaaa....obviously you don't understand. It's not political; it's a comparison.

The family lawyer is employing the Schiff/Nadler offensive playbook...if one understand that, you understand what he's doing for the family....
 
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Twangster is correct, there is just too many people in the diamond and plus groups now. Celebrity has suite lounge and suite retreat areas. They make a lot of room for their lounge.  Last time on Grandeur the lounge was filled every night with pinnacle and diamond plus members taking over whole areas, leaving no room for suite guests. I understand loyalty, and expectations of that loyalty. But at the same time royal, if not making changes won’t sell those price hefty rooms. It is a perk of the class of room, it comes with the room at no additional expense. The same as coastal kitchens is a perk. 

I wonder if grandpa has ever come back to his car in a snow storm and found his car full of snow because he didn't know his window was open?
Probably has a wicked air conditioning bill in the summer when the windows in the house are open.  
Drive through restaurants must be a PITA for him.  Is the window open or not?  So confusing.
Is he a Mac IT professional because Windows seems to give him a lot of trouble.

It’s just all so heart breaking sad all around. I’ve felt from the start the Grandfather was 100% at fault for this tragedy. I understand his denial it must be a very heavy burden to carry in his heart much less admit to.
 
The lawsuit and tv interviews the parents gave were also heartbreaking to watch.   I suppose I can understand the need to blame an outside party for the tragic death of your child.
 
Now with the release of the video showing he definitely held little Chloe out an open window. I pray the parents drop the lawsuit and move on. Puerto Rico should offer Anello a plea deal admit guilt and have probation for a set time.  There’s been enough heart break. 

I think I would have more respect and feelings for him (and the family) if they would have admitted his guilt and negligence.  
The whole "not me, it must be someone else's fault" approach in the face of clear and damning evidence has influenced my view of his situation and not in a good way for him (or the family).

Rage is not a phase of grief, it's a component, and I doubt that they are "past it." It takes years to get over the rage at having your child snatched from you, from life! Think of them as being insane, because that's what grief is like, when it's acute, by which I mean severe. It's not insanity, in that it's normal and predictable, but it's indistinguishable from insanity. Maybe their rage is at the grandfather, maybe it's at God, maybe it's at the whole world, but RCCL is a convenient scapegoat for them. Let's hope the jury is strong and clearheaded and impartial, because the family cannot be those things, and will not be for quite some time.
Also, don't forget denial, which is more powerful than you would believe. If they've looked at the video, they have not been able to see what it shows, because denial protects them from losing their minds permanently. 
My daughter was killed 31 years ago (not by me, but by someone else), and I was quite out-of-my mind for at least a couple of years, and sporadically for even longer. Her father was even more crazed than I was, and it went on for a very long time. Guilt, which all parents feel when they have failed to protect their child, creates even more misplaced anger. At its core, the anger is at themselves, for having trusted Grandpa with the baby.
Please, no "sorry for your loss," I know that you would not wish this on me or anyone, just try to learn from someone who has been there. May it never happen to your family. I blame the lawyer, who is just using these poor people, and their suffering, to make a bundle from RCCL. I know lawyers, too, and some of them work for the benefit of the oppressed, and others work for their own benefit. This guy is a slime ball, in my opinion.

I don't know if the media got that right.  At one point they claimed no plea deal had been offered.  I think his lawyer suggested he wouldn't accept a plea deal because he is innocent and the media assumed that a deal had been offered and rejected.
 

While police and law enforcement officers around the country fight the battle to earn the respect they deserve, I've lost all respect for the South Bend Indiana Police Department for continuing to support Alan Wiegand given that he and his wife (a prosecutor herself) continue to sue Royal Caribbean when the video footage clearly shows the step-grandfather leaning his upper torso OUT the open window and then holding the child OUT the window for 34 seconds before dropping her!  How can anyone in South Bend, Indiana rely on the police or Alan Wiegand to properly determine if a crime has been committed and how can a court of law rely on their judgement and testimony when they have clearly demonstrated that their judgement is impaired and seriously flawed! 

It’s just all so heart breaking sad all around. I’ve felt from the start the Grandfather was 100% at fault for this tragedy. I understand his denial it must be a very heavy burden to carry in his heart much less admit to.
 
The lawsuit and tv interviews the parents gave were also heartbreaking to watch.   I suppose I can understand the need to blame an outside party for the tragic death of your child.
 
Now with the release of the video showing he definitely held little Chloe out an open window. I pray the parents drop the lawsuit and move on. Puerto Rico should offer Anello a plea deal admit guilt and have probation for a set time.  There’s been enough heart break.