steverk Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, ApexoftheSeas said: How much bigger do you think icon 2 will be than icon 1? What new and different stuff would you like to see? I'll go out on a limb and say 6 cm longer. 1 cm wider. That will make her the largest in the world. ScottD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonNZ Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 1:06 PM, Rackham said: I can't see Royal introducing adult only sailings. Royal's niche isn't adult only; it's multigenerational families and people looking for that style of resort. It's like asking Virgin to allow kids on some of their ships when that's not where they're placing themselves in the market. I agree. From a market department point of view it would also be a nightmare. All your advertising is around the whole family vacation... confusing that message with 'Whole family vacation apart from this ship' is just confusing to the market. If they wanted to compete in the adults only market you would be more likely to create a subsidiary, move this hip to the new company and market it under a different name. That way you get brand recognition for the subsidiary without confusing the brand and customers of Royal. WAAAYTOOO and DDaley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, steverk said: I'll go out on a limb and say 6 cm longer. 1 cm wider. That will make her the largest in the world. Just need to add an extra closet somewhere to give it an extra gross ton steverk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakemeister Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 7:27 AM, ApexoftheSeas said: How much bigger do you think icon 2 will be than icon 1? What new and different stuff would you like to see? Might as well add two feet to make it an even 1200. I wonder what the upper limit is on length and width of ships, for the infrastructure, piers and terminals and such. If the new train restaurant on Utopia is a hit, maybe they'll add that to Icon 2. They could even make a space travel restaurant, a sort of "Restaurant at the End of the Universe". Waitstaff could dress up in space suits or alien costumes. It would be fun. Carnival is putting their latest and biggest ship in Galveston, so it makes even more sense for Royal to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin6112 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I wonder if they will do a revenue TA on her way over to wherever she’s going or even a Europe season considering Southampton was promised Icon first before it was changed to Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 3:05 AM, Rackham said: I might be misunderstanding the European market for Royal, but I doubt an Icon-class will be positioned there for at least the first three ships. Europe is like Alaska in that it's port of call focused for the most part. The ship is less of the destination, versus in the Caribbean, so it doesn't make sense to run a ship class on these itineraries designed to draw people in due to the ship's resort amenities. Plus, Royal's going to want to run Icon-class where cruising and private island days are equal or greater than number of port days to maximize revenue capture too. My bet is on Miami, Port Canaveral, and Galveston receiving the first three Icon-class ships. First , European cruise currency is summer only for RCL (at least until 2025 were we might see one winter itinerary). Second , for the last 10 years there is an Oasis class ship doing the most must see ports and most of the time it's or fully booked or very near to that with prices range as much as twice for interior cabin comparing to the Caribbean market. It's actually depends when the ship is ready. If the ship will be ready at April you might see it going out from Europe considering it is being build in Europe. If it will be ready during October and behind it will go directly to the US market. I think that what happened to Icon 1, it was planned to start from the UK but when the date was pushed it moved to the US. I don't think Royal will have all 3 Icons all the time in the US as it will impact the revenue of the 5 Oasis class ships (that is 1 of the six Oasis is offering short itinerary) ... But that is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexoftheSeas Posted September 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 What do you think it will be called? My guess is Star of the Seas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 11:43 PM, twangster said: It would be refreshing to see Royal not make icon 2 another Miami debut. Galveston would be a good choice. It’s looking like a third cruise terminal is in the pipeline for Sydney. A old industrial port about a hour south called port Kembla. A 360 meter dock with ship LNG ! https://cruisepassenger.com.au/news/australian-cruisers-could-sail-out-of-wollongong-while-foreigners-enjoy-our-harbour-views/ Jamesszy94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Chili said: It’s looking like a third cruise terminal is in the pipeline for Sydney. A old industrial port about a hour south called port Kembla. A 360 meter dock with ship LNG ! https://cruisepassenger.com.au/news/australian-cruisers-could-sail-out-of-wollongong-while-foreigners-enjoy-our-harbour-views/ So Brisbane all over again, just in NSW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 10 hours ago, twangster said: So Brisbane all over again, just in NSW? We try to upstage Brisbane,you though there cruise terminal is a mess just wait for port Kembla. twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesszy94 Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 6:57 PM, Chili said: We try to upstage Brisbane,you though there cruise terminal is a mess just wait for port Kembla. I mean... Brisbane have already upstaged us (at least for the moment) by having a port that can fit an Oasis-class ship (now if only Royal would send one down our way) At the moment, Brisbane is our best bet, and I don't think Port Kembla will be complete for at least another 3-5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamesszy94 said: I mean... Brisbane have already upstaged us (at least for the moment) by having a port that can fit an Oasis-class ship (now if only Royal would send one down our way) At the moment, Brisbane is our best bet, and I don't think Port Kembla will be complete for at least another 3-5 years It would probably take that long to develop port Kembla. I don’t actually know if the channel and turning bay would take a Oassis. Kembla has an excellent rail which could go from Central to the terminal in about a hour. And the area around Wollongong is quite nice,I suppose it’s hard to compete with Brisbanes muddy river and the sewage plant next door. Not to mention no public transport . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Chili said: It would probably take that long to develop port Kembla. I don’t actually know if the channel and turning bay would take a Oassis. Kembla has an excellent rail which could go from Central to the terminal in about a hour. And the area around Wollongong is quite nice,I suppose it’s hard to compete with Brisbanes muddy river and the sewage plant next door. Not to mention no public transport . I've cruised from New Jersey. Brisbane sounds quite nice! EmersonNZ and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, twangster said: I've cruised from New Jersey. Brisbane sounds quite nice! That'd be a bit of a long cruise to get to Brisbane from Bayonne though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: That'd be a bit of a long cruise to get to Brisbane from Bayonne though. Pick me, pick me ! Chili, smokeybandit and twangster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdoc Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 Next one will be 8000 feet long so they can land wide body jets and have a high speed railway in an oval to get around. steverk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 8:54 AM, Jamesszy94 said: I mean... Brisbane have already upstaged us (at least for the moment) by having a port that can fit an Oasis-class ship (now if only Royal would send one down our way) At the moment, Brisbane is our best bet, and I don't think Port Kembla will be complete for at least another 3-5 years I know it’s not a oasis but explorer has been there a couple of times. Rumour is Gavin smith is keen . https://www.portauthoritynsw.com.au/news-and-publications/2019-news/explorer-of-the-seas-cruises-into-port-kembla/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Ditchdoc said: Next one will be 8000 feet long so they can land wide body jets and have a high speed railway in an oval to get around. Do you think there will be any Black Friday sales on the rail pass? Ditchdoc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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