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1 hour ago, imisscruising said:

 

I'm sorry you are going through this. On my Oasis sailing it was clear they didn't want to test and really tried to minimize everything. How they are not listed as a RED ship on the CDC color scale I do not know. 

 

I am just guessing here but I think they are mandated that they would have to report positive tests, thus they don't test otherwise the code for the ship would be RED. Again they opted into this of their own volition and now their actions circumvent the process they signed up for. At the end of the day it's about making the most $$ they can to address the outstanding debt. 

Just my 2 cents....they want it both ways. 

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4 hours ago, TonyYOW said:

I also don't understand how it's in Orange. I can see other cabins around us also have people quarantining. 

And honestly, if not my own test kits I brought from home with me, nobody would ever realize one of us is positive. In theory we could've enjoyed the rest of our cruise. Which, I'm sure, is currently happening to many families on the ship who are asymptomatic and keep enjoying their time. 

I just decided to do the right thing and let them know. 

@TonyYOW from the onset of Covid, I’ve never seen numbers like the guests reporting on social media. I know it’s not scientific but It’s only logical that many others will share the infection before the last day.  Thanks for doing the right thing for the sake of others!  I’m also wondering what will be the number that will turn the ships to Code Red.  Wishing you a safe ride home and a complete recovery. 

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It appears that the majority of all ships are at Orange level

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/cruise-ship-color-status.html
From the CDC:

If CDC is considering assigning a cruise ship “Red” status, CDC may require ships to do one or more of the following:

  • Test all passengers mid-voyage, and/or prior to the end of the voyage, regardless of the passengers’ vaccination status;
  • Increase routine screening testing of crew;
  • Require mask use by all passengers and crew indoors and crowded outdoor areas;
  • Send written notification to passengers on the current, previous, and subsequent voyages informing them of the COVID-19 conditions and measures being taken to reduce transmission on board;
  • Offer a full refund for the cruise to any passenger who decides not to sail on the subsequent voyage; and
  • Submit specimens for genetic sequencing.
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27 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said:

Wow !  Submit specimens for genetic sequencing ?!  Are they kidding ??  No f’n way !

I believe that refers to variant identification. The thing is there is no threshold of case counts that trigger red from orange. It would take a ship admitting that their medical capabilities are overwhelmed and they are not about to do that. I received no medical checks during my isolation, which I was quite surprised by. Not even a daily phone call. Never saw a physician or had my vital signs checked, nothing, just the positive antigen and PCR, then moved cabins to isolation.

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Interesting reading other experiences after testing positive on a ship. Our experience on Indy was handled very well. After notifying medical that all 3 of us were experiencing symptoms they did a PCR test on all of us. When we all tested positive they escorted us to medical for a check up and then placed us in our new rooms. They had originally said we could stay in our original stateroom but I requested to be moved because we were in an interior room. They moved us to 2 connecting ocean view rooms for the final two days of the cruise. I would have lost my mind stuck in that tiny room with 2 teenage boys!! We had great communication with medical, guest services and room service. A doctor even stopped by yesterday afternoon to check in on us. We disembarked this morning and within an hour our contact on the ship even called me to confirm I received the email she sent containing copies of our  positive test results that I requested. It was a disappointing way to end vacation, but for us, it was handled very well. We were on the 8 night Mariner ABC cruise last week so that is definitely we’re we picked up the crud. It was pretty mild for all of us - like a bad cold with a light fever for less than 24 hours. I am almost feeling back to normal this evening. 

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The FL Department of Health, who contacted our travel partners that both became infected with COVID while on Celebrity Equinox, 9n, Cayman + ABCs returning a week ago, said the numbers of reports being received from cruise ships shows a spike in COVID infections found by on-board testing.

Look, infections ae going to happen and that is because the newest Omicron variants (BA.2.?) are thought to be better at evading both the humeral and adaptive immune systems obtained from vaccination or previous COVID infection. However, it's not a slam-dunk that you're going to catch it. Even if you do, you're well protected from serious illness. While hospitalizations seem to be rising, it's not steeply. Neither are new case numbers rising steeply as in the Omicron surge in March, 2022.

Another important reality is that it does not appear that a 4th booster confers additional protection from infection. Studies in Israel and elsewhere have demonstrated only marginal adaptive immune system gains (antibodies) and humeral immune system gains (T-Cells, Killer B Cells). I'm, 74, higher risk but in good health and still getting one tomorrow 14d+ in advance of an AOS sailing (my first on an RCL megaship) departing on June 5th, 6n, W. Caribbean and Perfect Day from Port Everglades. 

The real issue for guests is getting isolated aboard ship. Our travel partners were both isolated on day 4 and 5 of 9 cruising days after testing positive. we thought exposure occurred on a independent bus trip in Grand Cayman they took (I didn't go). I actually reported to medical on day 2 with COVID symptoms, tested negative (NAAT) but had to isolate for 24h in my cabin and was not released until I was re-tested negative again. Isolation sucked for all of us.

Royals objective is to prevent an outbreak on each ship and that no ship has moved to "red" indicates the protocols are doing just that. My take is that will continue if Royal proceeds cautiously. I believe Royal should continue to hold capacity at 60-65% and strengthen the capacity of their testing and isolation management contractors to accommodate higher COVID positive case numbers.  I commented elsewhere that I thought testing contractors aboard Equinox got overwhelmed (not enough testers or NAAT Machines to run tests expeditiously) with something less than around 100 cases/out of estimated 3600  among crew and guests (just a guess).

If any of Royal's ships do move to "red status, that is going to be problematic regardless of what the CDC recommends for increased mitigation measures which I feel confident that Royal will comply with all of those recommendations. There will be a place where staff shortages and infected guests will prevent responsible ship operations and ports are going to deny port calls with regularity. You can bet Royal knows exactly where that point occurs by the numbers.

During this period of increased transmission of Omicron variants, guests can help by first assessing their own personal risks of infection and making the right decision to not board when risks potentially exceed benefits, keeping in mind that a mere infection with mild symptoms is going to prompt isolation and a cruise camped out in an isolation cabin. It's a personal choice but you can reduce your risks of infection and a ruined cruise due to isolation while aboard by simply taking reasonable precautions about where you go inside ship's public spaces. If regular main or select dining gets too crowded, skip that and find a place where spacing and open air is available. Avoid crowded bars. You can always find one that isn't.  

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12 hours ago, Pattycruise said:

It appears that the majority of all ships are at Orange level

As they have been for at least a month. There are definitely more cases now but 0.3% is a very low threshold to put a ship into Orange.

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3 hours ago, OCSC Mike said:

As they have been for at least a month. There are definitely more cases now but 0.3% is a very low threshold to put a ship into Orange.

agreed.  I don't see anything clear cut about when it goes to Red.  I think it will be a huge thing if any ship hits red.

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22 hours ago, Firefly said:

Interesting reading other experiences after testing positive on a ship. Our experience on Indy was handled very well. After notifying medical that all 3 of us were experiencing symptoms they did a PCR test on all of us. When we all tested positive they escorted us to medical for a check up and then placed us in our new rooms. They had originally said we could stay in our original stateroom but I requested to be moved because we were in an interior room. They moved us to 2 connecting ocean view rooms for the final two days of the cruise. I would have lost my mind stuck in that tiny room with 2 teenage boys!! We had great communication with medical, guest services and room service. A doctor even stopped by yesterday afternoon to check in on us. We disembarked this morning and within an hour our contact on the ship even called me to confirm I received the email she sent containing copies of our  positive test results that I requested. It was a disappointing way to end vacation, but for us, it was handled very well. We were on the 8 night Mariner ABC cruise last week so that is definitely we’re we picked up the crud. It was pretty mild for all of us - like a bad cold with a light fever for less than 24 hours. I am almost feeling back to normal this evening. 

So they are putting you in quarantine but was there any other accommodations (credit, refund for excursions or dining packages, etc) for cruise time lost? 

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8 hours ago, Pattycruise said:

agreed.  I don't see anything clear cut about when it goes to Red.  I think it will be a huge thing if any ship hits red.

They will never go red because it's not tied to case counts. It's quite misleading for the general public. Orange just means greater than 0.3% which is quite a small number. The upper limit is not defined. 

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1 hour ago, imisscruising said:

They will never go red because it's not tied to case counts. It's quite misleading for the general public. Orange just means greater than 0.3% which is quite a small number. The upper limit is not defined. 

Yep, very misleading.  I don't think it would stop me from sailing anyway.

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On 5/21/2022 at 12:22 PM, WAAAYTOOO said:

Wow !  Submit specimens for genetic sequencing ?!  Are they kidding ??  No f’n way !

The genetic sequencing is of the genetic signature of the virus, not the person (In fact it is a completely different process). It is used by health officials to determine which variant of the virus is the most common in a particular community and to identify any new variants in the community. There are a lot of reasons this is important such as developing treatment plans, determining if a more contagious/deadly version is gaining traction, determining how a virus is spreading through a community etc etc. 

To make feel people better they probably should call it virus signiture sequencing...

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Getting worried about our two cruises now and the fact that 12 other people are coming on our cruise we booked. I hope we don't get the blame if they test positive.

We have decided to avoid crowded locations on the ship and will probably wear masks. 

We both have covid at the minute and it's pretty nasty. Going to phone the doctor tomorrow see if we can get some tablets for it. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, RCCruiser said:

So they are putting you in quarantine but was there any other accommodations (credit, refund for excursions or dining packages, etc) for cruise time lost? 

They refunded our Coco Cay Waterpark tickets and 2 days of internet that I had purchased. (We were in Quarantine for days 3 & 4 of a 4 night cruise.)  This was actually all done within a few hours of moving into quarantine. 

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4 hours ago, Morganno said:

Getting worried about our two cruises now and the fact that 12 other people are coming on our cruise we booked. I hope we don't get the blame if they test positive.

We have decided to avoid crowded locations on the ship and will probably wear masks. 

We both have covid at the minute and it's pretty nasty. Going to phone the doctor tomorrow see if we can get some tablets for it. 

 

 

The first thing I did coming off the ship was a telehealth appointment to get Paxlovid. There are some medications that can't be mixed with it unfortunately. I think it helped me and would make the same decision again. I hope you feel better soon. 

As for where I think I slipped up, I think it was at dinner in the main dining room. I started out masked walking around, and stayed masked at trivia and a show in the theater.  I was not 100% on that though and I should have been. If I cruise again, I will definitely choose a ship with an outside Windjammer and go at least crowded times. 

 

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Agree…we got off Independence 20 May after back to back had some minor sniffles develop 19 May. We were meeting our son his wife and her parents prior to his military department for 7 day Harmony cruise 22 May. Got 2x test within a couple hours of debarking Independence and I tested Positive wife did not…had to cancel cruise.  We are fully vaccinated and double boosted. Used my casino balcony offer combined with my wife’s ocean view offer for Jr Suite and had $200.00 freeplay. Asked if we could rebook was told the offer used was no longer available.  Arrr. Doing 3x AK cruises in Aug followed by transpacific cruise and now getting nervous for another positive test with little or minor symptoms. We have done 10 cruises since pandemic and this was first positive test.

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On 5/19/2022 at 6:56 PM, anxiouscruiser said:

Must be symphony because serenade docked on sunday not saturday (i was on it lol) 

Yes I agree it was Symphony. I was on the same sailing and tested positive the day after we disembarked. We had a wonderful cruise on Symphony and the time off now to recover from Covid just means more time to plan my next cruise! 🥰😍

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On 5/19/2022 at 11:56 AM, Leroyr55 said:

Wife started with sniffles Tuesday night and tested positive today after departing SOS on Saturday 14th. Facebook group page has numerous people reporting positive tests. We heard nothing while on board nor did we inquire about cases. Vaccinated and double boosted. 
Just be careful folks but we had a great cruise.

I hope your wife is feeling better and you too! Thankfully I'm the only one in my immediate family that caught it and I'm trying not to spread it to the other family members. Vaccinated, boosted, over abundantly hand washed and hand sanitized, kept our distance as much as possible (which realistically with 5500+ on that sailing was non existent) and covid found its way. We still had a great time and in no way will covid stop us from cruising. We're learning to live with it, be flexible with unexpected changes and to remember that being on a cruise is always better than not being on one! 

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I believe the risk is higher if you travel with kids who go to adventure Ocean. Kids are superspreaders because they spend lots of time at adventure Ocean with no masks, and most of them are asymptomatic. 

 

I believe this is how we got it. Crowds of parents with kids to drop off at AO, at some point there were 45 kids playing at the same time. No surprise my daughter contracted it quickly, and then I got it from her. 

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Side note.  We were on Symphony and they had 42 passengers quarantined.  I remember the sea day after St. Thomas prior to Coco Cay hearing about 6 names being called while I was lounging in the Solaium....so and so deck 6, so and so deck 9, etc please report to the medical.  

I turned to my hubby and said omg, they are calling them bc they have a medical emergency....pre-covid sailings.  Never did I think they were doing contact tracing until after we left and people were showing them leaving....hazmat suits.   They were segregated to deck 3

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Leaving on Saturday from Miami on Symphony of the Seas. It's been almost 10 years since my last cruise. Any advice for avoiding the covid? Places to avoid? In our party of 12, only 2 are pre-teen so hopefully our chances of catching it from them are lessened. Thanks.

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