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I just got a crown and anchor advance notice. The schedule will be out tommorow 11/06.

So far confirmed deployment is:

Ovation of the Seas & Quantum of the Seas (Out of Sydney)

Radiance of the Seas (Out of Brisbane)

Looks like Voyager is definitely leaving down under and also Serenade going by the above. 

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So the itineraries are now out, here’s my observations: 

• No Top End or Bottom End Australia itineraries 

• New port: Eden, Australia 

• Expanded season in Brisbane for Radiance of the Seas 

• Departure of both Voyager & Serenade for 21-22. 

• Quantum & Ovation doing similar itineraries

• Otherwise a mixture of South Pacific, Australia & New Zealand itineraries. 

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7 minutes ago, Shanenz84 said:

So the itineraries are now out, here’s my observations: 

• No Top End or Bottom End Australia itineraries 

• New port: Eden, Australia 

• Expanded season in Brisbane for Radiance of the Seas 

• Departure of both Voyager & Serenade for 21-22. 

• Quantum & Ovation doing similar itineraries

• Otherwise a good mixture of South Pacific, Australia & New Zealand itineraries. 

Seems to be an excessive amount of NZ cruises to me when compared to South PAcific.

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4 hours ago, Shanenz84 said:

So the itineraries are now out, here’s my observations: 

• No Top End or Bottom End Australia itineraries 

• New port: Eden, Australia 

• Expanded season in Brisbane for Radiance of the Seas 

• Departure of both Voyager & Serenade for 21-22. 

• Quantum & Ovation doing similar itineraries

• Otherwise a mixture of South Pacific, Australia & New Zealand itineraries. 

There are some itineraries to Tasmania. 

This is my fav - South Pacific is a little misleading! 😂

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17 minutes ago, KWofPerth said:

Disappointing to have no Voyager/Freedom Class.

Also, two Q Class ships, both out of Sydney, is too much.  If we must have two, I would have preferred to see one of them swap with Radiance from Brisbane.

Based on the Sydney cruise ship schedule I saw a while back Quantum is staying until at least June.. possibly further however the schedule ends. Ovation leaves in April as it does every year.

This could potentially be Royal's attempt to port a full time ship in Australia as Carnival is now doing with Splendor. A Quantum class is perfect to leave here during the winter as it can also adapt to the warmer temps as it sails north. It will eventually sail Perfect Day at Lelepa all year round.

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9 minutes ago, mattymay said:

Based on the Sydney cruise ship schedule I saw a while back Quantum is staying until at least June.. possibly further however the schedule ends. Ovation leaves in April as it does every year.

This could potentially be Royal's attempt to port a full time ship in Australia as Carnival is now doing with Splendor. A Quantum class is perfect to leave here during the winter as it can also adapt to the warmer temps as it sails north. It will eventually sail Perfect Day at Lelepa all year round.

I love Radiance Class, but I am going to miss Voyager Class. Q Class I can take or leave.

It's a moot point anyway. In the current climate I'm not handing over my cash for a booking that may never eventuate. See: Twangster's experience in one of the other threads.

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2 minutes ago, KWofPerth said:

I love Radiance Class, but I am going to miss Voyager Class. Q Class I can take or leave.

It's a moot point anyway. In the current climate I'm not handing over my cash for a booking that may never eventuate. See: Twangster's experience in one of the other threads.

I've got my cash ready, hoping to pounce on a last minute Voyager cruise before its gone for good, if they end up going ahead!!

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5 minutes ago, mattymay said:

I've got my cash ready, hoping to pounce on a last minute Voyager cruise before its gone for good, if they end up going ahead!!

There's too much uncertainty for my liking. You and I (along with our North American friends I'm sure), are lucky to have plenty of great holiday spots within our own country, and even within each individual state, so I'm going to stick to local travel for the foreseeable future. Foregoing cruising for a year or two is hardly a sacrifice in my view.

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8 minutes ago, KWofPerth said:

There's too much uncertainty for my liking. You and I (along with our North American friends I'm sure), are lucky to have plenty of great holiday spots within our own country, and even within each individual state, so I'm going to stick to local travel for the foreseeable future. Foregoing cruising for a year or two is hardly a sacrifice in my view.

When I say last minute I literally mean a week or so before hand, will have something else local as back up plan in case it falls through. If these Sep-April sailings do go ahead I think they will be offering some good deals. Given the bashing cruising has copped here I don't see any full ships sailing out of Sydney next season.

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20 minutes ago, mattymay said:

When I say last minute I literally mean a week or so before hand, will have something else local as back up plan in case it falls through. If these Sep-April sailings do go ahead I think they will be offering some good deals. Given the bashing cruising has copped here I don't see any full ships sailing out of Sydney next season.

Coming from Perth the biggest hurdle to going for a last minute deal would be getting last minute flights at a reasonable price. The planets would need to align in once-in-a-century-fashion.

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3 hours ago, mattymay said:

Given the bashing cruising has copped here I don't see any full ships sailing out of Sydney next season.

I've been curious what the sentiment is on the street or among the people versus what we read in hyped up media and other internet sources.  It did seem like Oz was giving a cold shoulder to the cruise industry as if they all had mad scientists brewing up virus concoctions on board.  

When I was there in February there were many activities celebrating the Lunar New Year.  It occurred to me that there is a strong, vibrant Asian community and presence in Sydney.  In hindsight that most likely means some air travel between Asia and Australia as people visit family and perform commerce between continents.  I have to believe while I was there in Sydney walking the streets the virus was already taking root and beginning to spread and it arrived on an airplane, not on a cruise ship. 

A few weeks after I left the region the guests who would subsequently bring it onto a ship sailing from Sydney became infected before boarding the ship, walking the same streets that I did.  They brought it onto the ship yet there seems to be this suggestion that Australia was perfectly clean until those same ships returned from the South Pacific or New Zealand and therefore the cruise industry is solely at fault for infecting Australia.  That's poppycock in my opinion. 

While it was being carried onto ships leaving from Sydney it was also spreading on transit systems, churches, grocery stores, schools, etc. yet somehow it's all the cruise industry fault because they are uniquely setup to detect and record an infection while the rest of Australia was initially seemingly oblivious to it.

So my question is...  how do the people of Australia feel about the cruise industry?  Is it just a few noisy anti-cruise rating-seeking media poisoning the masses or do people actually think the cruise industry is to blame? 

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

I've been curious what the sentiment is on the street or among the people versus what we read in hyped up media and other internet sources.  It did seem like Oz was giving a cold shoulder to the cruise industry as if they all had mad scientists brewing up virus concoctions on board.  

When I was there in February there were many activities celebrating the Lunar New Year.  It occurred to me that there is a strong, vibrant Asian community and presence in Sydney.  In hindsight that most likely means some air travel between Asia and Australia as people visit family and perform commerce between continents.  I have to believe while I was there in Sydney walking the streets the virus was already taking root and beginning to spread and it arrived on an airplane, not on a cruise ship. 

A few weeks after I left the region the guests who would subsequently bring it onto a ship sailing from Sydney became infected before boarding the ship, walking the same streets that I did.  They brought it onto the ship yet there seems to be this suggestion that Australia was perfectly clean until those same ships returned from the South Pacific or New Zealand and therefore the cruise industry is solely at fault for infecting Australia.  That's poppycock in my opinion. 

While it was being carried onto ships leaving from Sydney it was also spreading on transit systems, churches, grocery stores, schools, etc. yet somehow it's all the cruise industry fault because they are uniquely setup to detect and record an infection while the rest of Australia was initially seemingly oblivious to it.

So my question is...  how do the people of Australia feel about the cruise industry?  Is it just a few noisy anti-cruise rating-seeking media poisoning the masses or do people actually think the cruise industry is to blame? 

The general vibe amongst Joe Public is that cruise ships are a source of Covid spread and are viewed very negatively at present. A massive chunk of cases in NSW came as a direct result of infected passengers being allowed to disembark the Ruby Princess. However I don't know of anyone that thinks cruise ships are solely to blame. Far from it.

We've had non-essential international travel banned since March and several of our states have shut their borders. We are now down to less than 150 active cases of CV19 so these measures have worked and worked beyond expectation. Our geographical isolation for once has been beneficial.  As has New Zealand's.

As a result of this success we have begun easing restrictions. Larger gatherings are now permitted, restaurants have just opened, sport is starting again. No one is in a rush to open our international borders - to aeroplanes or ships - anytime soon, because all that does is allow in cases from countries who have not been as successful in eliminating the virus as we have.

I love cruising, but I disagree with many others on this site. Cruise ships are a source of spread and best avoided at this juncture. Just because there are other sources of spread, it does not mean that cruise ships should just be allowed to freely go about their business.

Like I referenced in a prior post, there are other ways to vacation that are every bit as enjoyable and I will support the local tourism industry for the foreseeable future. All the while I will be following RC's progress as it navigates its way through this mess and look forward to one day cruising again.

I hope you can appreciate my honesty.

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