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I was under the impression though, that having a mask-free cruise was predicated on meeting that vaccine requirement. I also thought that I had heard that RC had announced no masks on cruises. I could be wrong on either of these points, so please correct me if I am, but if I am right, then would there be some sort of method to keep track of who's vaccinated onboard to enforce the mask requirements? If so, it seems a little Titanic with different classes of passengers! Interested to see how this all plays out!

I was under the impression though, that having a mask-free cruise was predicated on meeting that vaccine requirement. I also thought that I had heard that RC had announced no masks on cruises. I could be wrong on either of these points, so please correct me if I am, but if I am right, then would there be some sort of method to keep track of who's vaccinated onboard to enforce the mask requirements? If so, it seems a little Titanic with different classes of passengers! Interested to see how this all plays out!

I don't think this is anything new. Fain has been pretty clear that RCL is going to do test cruises to protect Royal's commitment to families and recognizing not everyone can get vaccinated. Test cruises mean a slower start and Bailey comments on that in the most recent announcement at the link above. To get the Alaska sailings going, RCL is going with a vaccination requirement. 
I don't think there are any misprints that have to be corrected going forward or hazy communications with regard to today's announcement by Bailey. All that remains unanswered are some of the details on health and safety protocols that will be different to those pre-pandemic.
If you're going to cruise from Seattle and visit Alaskan ports, you need to be vaccinated.
If you're going to sail from FL ports, you don't but it's highly recommended - and yes, dodges the Desantis bullet.

You never know when Royal will issue a retraction and blame in intern for a typo, but if this stands it would seem to defuse the confrontation with the State of Florida regarding asking passengers for proof of vaccination.

Interesting. The same thing is quoted in another thread, and it mentions "further health and safety protocols to be announced later." But the page you linked is very clear that US sailings aside from Alaska will not require the vaccine. My question is...which posting is the updated/accurate one?

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

These updates have been so incremental that my expectations are low. What will it be, we only have to wear masks between bites if we are NOT chewing now? Maybe hot tub distancing will drop from six feet to five feet? Maybe our majestic CDC overlords will allow us an extra person in the theater!

Whether or not they were false positives, they were all asymptomatic. Or as we would have called them pre-2020, healthy. ? 

But yes. The news will jump all over it.

Whether or not they were false positives, they were all asymptomatic. Or as we would have called them pre-2020, healthy. ? 

But yes. The news will jump all over it.

I’m old enough to remember when someone wouldn’t test for an illness unless they had symptoms...
ah, the good old days...

Whether or not they were false positives, they were all asymptomatic. Or as we would have called them pre-2020, healthy. ? 

But yes. The news will jump all over it.

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

The Alaska cruises you can't book yet but I am sure that notification will appear. 
Unfortunately, if the Alaska cruises are requiring this new age, and it's a US port, it doesn't look good for other US ports.

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

I think your analysis is right, Neesa. And I suspect they'll default to the CWC option if you want to back out. I think it's a little ridiculous to mandate vaccines for low risk children.

I think we'll learn more in the coming days.
There is a lot to this new requirement including the need to address guests who have birthdays in July or August that will turn "vaccine age" but can't get vaccinated in time to sail.  
I realize this new requirement may be unsettling but we need to see how it plays out and what their offers will be.  Give it a few days.

I think Matt has been meeting with the CDC secretly for months and has almost convinced them that cruises should be a go again. His persistence is what got us here!

I think Matt has been meeting with the CDC secretly for months and has almost convinced them that cruises should be a go again. His persistence is what got us here!

I think Matt has been meeting with the CDC secretly for months and has almost convinced them that cruises should be a go again. His persistence is what got us here!

I think Matt has been meeting with the CDC secretly for months and has almost convinced them that cruises should be a go again. His persistence is what got us here!

Thank you for the clarification. In this case though, one of the children is a bully and the other child is contrite and just wants to go outside and play, but the bully won't let him.

Mediation will go nowhere. CDC will never admit that they made a mistake, and will just slowly release updates while talking about following the science. Florida will not give way on the fact that cruise lines cannot sail under the current CSO.
 
I think meditation by both parties may be more effective than mediation. ?