cruisinghawg

23 minutes ago, twangster said:

... And why can't courts announce things during the day?  Why do all these actions get announced AFTER 5pm.  It's almost like it's 1899 and they know the papers are past their printing deadlines.

And a Friday also!!

Wonder if they have been kicked off NCL yet?

Seems awful close to sail date to do this.

Bourbon neat

14 hours ago, Jennifer Burke said:

All I want to know is this: Assuming the CSO is here for the long run, will RC EVER be able to allow a mask free cruise for vaccinated cruisers? Or is the issue with masks is just cruising out of Florida?

I believe any cruise out of the US. The Florida issue was only Fed over reach to help get cruising back out of Florida. I guess you could say it has worked as they (CDC) started working on the problem.

28 minutes ago, JeffB said:

And, so what. As I posted up thread, the CSO is now baked in to restarts from US ports. The lines are adapting to health care policies in foreign ports. These seem, for the most part, more or less mirroring the US CDC's guidance via the CSO.

What's important in regards to that is that the lines have almost uniformly adopted the provisions of the HSP and have clearly demonstrated those recommendations are kicking COVID's ass. Sure, they aren't making cruising risk free wrt infectious disease and the highly transmissible variants of SARS2 but what the lines are doing is reducing the risk of bad outcomes aboard all cruise ships (ala, the Princes Cruises, Diamond Princess of 2020). From the record, I'd say the risk of a really bad COVID related outcome on cruise ships following HSP (and I'll reluctantly add CDC's) guidelines and recommendations is about zero

What's important to watch from here on out is how the various involved judges/courts rule on FL's initial claim of unlawful government over reach by HHS/CDC. I have no gut feeling of the outcome. Tough one to all. 

I am not in disagreement with you here. But "The so what" comment apparently means it doesn't bother you that a government agency controls a vacation segment most here love to do. And now if the CDC wants to tighten down the CSO they can; if the CDC wants to shut down the cruise lines they can; if the CDC wants to extend the CSO they can!!!!! That bothers me.

1 hour ago, smokeybandit said:

We can nonow look forward to the cso getting extended into 2022 

yep

6 hours ago, LovetoCruise87 said:

What was the first Broadway show ever on a Royal Caribbean cruise?

Grease

We are registered and ready!!!!

Does anyone know what they (cruise company's) are basing this on?

Even if it goes into effect at midnight Sunday I do not believe RC is going to change anything as long as the CDC appeal is still in the works.

3 hours ago, Vancity Cruiser said:

It’s the same kind of bullsh*t as with the CDC where air travel (probably the most unsanitary form of travel) is much easier than anything else. It will be easier for me to fly from Vancouver to Seattle for my Alaskan cruise than to make the 2 hour drive in my own “bubble”. Explain how that makes sense.

It doesn't but we are talking about politicians and bureaucrats. I firmly believe if a case is found onboard they may check to see if that person flew to the port of departure. We have real good friends from Canada that we haven't seen in more than a year.

Well they will accept Americans but can the Canadians now drive to the US?

8 minutes ago, Psycho and Barb said:

Were they retested before being removed from the ship?  Have been tested at home and are they COVID positive?

Yes the next day with the brain swab test. It was positive also. Do not know if he was tested once he returned home. My point is lets not panic over this the protocols are working if we all work together.

3 hours ago, HeWhoWaits said:

This didn't make the "news" because he cooperated and responded in a civil manner.

Correct o mondo!!!!

Standing on the deck of the SS Norway and looking back at the gleaming new SOS in 1989. New then it was next year and we did. 1990

Figures just when we were to get out first one in Dec. Oh well

We are probably not hearing about some. I have a friend that was on Adventure last week and tested positive. He was with many of his family such as sister and her family and a few of their friends. RC tested and then quietly came and got him from the pool area told him put him in an ocean front room, no balcony. He and his partner are vaxed  and so were the rest of his group but he was the only positive case. They were removed in Freeport and flew home on a charter. He said it was handled very well and he is appreciative of the way they were treated. He whole hardly believes he DID NOT get this on the ship. I told him no probably on the plane over.

RC protocols are working to this point. 

Are we willing to give up a freedom to cruise? Can we not see that this statute guarantees my right to shop at my local grocery store without pulling out a passport and showing the bouncer at the door? If this prevails what freedom will we lose next? All the cruise lines tried to work with both the CDC and the state of Florida except NCL. It just looks like they are sitting on the floor like a petulant child kicking their legs and screaming "mommy I want, I want my way".  

Well if it is overturned then we lose a freedom and the corporate world can now hold it over our heads.

13 hours ago, dswallow said:

Ah, the irony. Florida.

Are you actually pulling for Florida to have a uptick in cases?

The answer is the Milk Run!!

If you like entertainment provided by pros make sure to catch the aqua show and the ice show.

Park N Go I believe very good at what they do. You make a reservation show up with your paper work pull up to a covered area unload to a waiting bus and they leave with you and get you to the port fast. No waiting, at least we never have. When you return there is a bus waiting no having to call or text. These guys have this down.

https://www.bookparkngo.com/ftlauderdale.php

Carnival is a no for me any Carnival.