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Probably the same guy telling people they shouldn't wear shorts in the MDR!

Proper punctuation can be life saving

Who can be as wrong at their jobs as often as weather forecasters and still have a job?

If you give people the worst case scenario and it doesn't happen, how many people are really going to be mad at you?
What? You've got to be kidding me! They said we were going to get a foot of snow and we only got three inches!

If you give people the worst case scenario and it doesn't happen, how many people are really going to be mad at you?
What? You've got to be kidding me! They said we were going to get a foot of snow and we only got three inches!

I totally agree with you regarding The Weather Channel ..... ever since they were bought by NBC, they seem to be more interested in ratings ....
Personally, I love Accuweather..... I find them to be much more reliable.

And turn down that squawk box!
That's what a friend's grandmother used to tell him when he was playing the radio too loud! ?

This statement like many things is very subjective. Just because they rowdy, doesn't mean they were breaking any written or posted rules. 
As @twangstersaid, let the professionals handle it.

I agree with @twangster I have seen the adults miss behave (Later in the day after many, many drinks) more than I have the older teens.
Just got off the Anthem GC, and they had to close and pump out the main pool twice during the nine days because an adult had thrown up in the pool. 

Solarium is 16+ so if they were 16+ then technically they are allowed to be there.  It's rarely good when guests try to interpret and/or enforce rules.  Better to engage pool staff or security.  If they decide the 16 yo's behavior is in violation of rules they can deal with it.
I've seen older adults who have been enjoying adult beverage become loud in the solarium.  It's not advertised as a quiet zone so the issue of acceptable versus desired is very subjective.  Ultimately that's up to the ship to decide and enforce.  

Better functioning website.

Looking forward to some next Oct when we sail out of Venice for Greece.

RC IT issues? I'm shocked! 

Agree - I was  only commenting that we saw little smoking on our ship at that time - less than on the Harmony in May.

Looking forward to some next Oct when we sail out of Venice for Greece.

The business model Royal uses in China was developed locally in that region.  Other cruise lines have failed or had limited success in China because they tried to take their standard product from another region and force it to work in China.  Royal didn't do that, they built their China business model from scratch following cultural norms and expectations for Chinese consumers.  
I had a conversation with a hotel director who spent 7 contracts working in Asia.  In China specifically it's apparently normal to charge for everything.  Chinese guests are not shocked by this practice, it's accepted.      
Expanding this successful model to include Singapore likely isn't being done blindly or out of greed.  Singapore consumers possibly track closer with some Chinese cultural norms than they do with some Western norms and expectations.   It also reduces crew confusion as ships like Quantum shift between Singapore and China home ports.
European consumers are similar to, but also different than North American consumers in some areas.  Royal and some of the other big cruise industry players take a North American product and plug it into Europe.  This works to some degree because a lot of North Americans end up on those European cruises but there is evidence of the incongruity with European consumers in areas like gratuity practices.  Contrast that with China cruises where very few Westerners end up on ships sailing from a China home port.  
The "all inclusive" mentality of the cruise market is an interesting discussion.  In the early days cruises may have been more towards all inclusive.  There was one dining room on the ship where all meals were consumed.  There was no buffet, no other smaller restaurants on board to supplement the primary dining venue like there are today.  Back in that day sometimes wine was offered at dinner but most guests in that era wouldn't binge drink at dinner simply because it was offered.  Ships held two or three hundred guests but many were from a similar cross section of society.  Cruising wasn't mass market like it is today.
Fast forward to today.  Ships hold thousands of guests representing wildly different backgrounds and areas of society.  Cruises are within reach for lower income households today when they never were in the early days of cruising.  Cruising is much more affordable today than it was in the early days of cruising.
If Royal offered complimentary wine at dinner today it would be mass chaos of chugging wine just to get another glass, and another glass.    Some guests would go overboard binge drinking just because they can.  Royal now has 26 ships with over 70,000 guests on board at any given moment.  It would cost a small fortune supplying all that wine every night to tens of thousands.  For guests that don't binge drink or don't drink at all they would have to pay higher fares to account for the cost of all that wine.  Instead of forcing all guests to pay more so that some guests can over indulge, guests who wish to indulge pay for it while guests that won't, don't have to pay for it.  This is where all inclusive begins to break down.  
The catch with all inclusive is that it isn't free.  Someone is paying it and no for-profit company is going to write it off as a loss to offer all inclusive.  Why force everyone to pay for things they don't want?  Many cruisers don't want Voom.  To make Voom included everyone would have to pay more including guests who don't want it.   Some people don't drink alcohol.  To include all alcohol cruise fares for everyone would increase.  It isn't fair for a guest to pay for something they don't want and the something one guest doesn't want is different than the something another guest doesn't want.  
All inclusive simply doesn't adapt or scale to the mass cruise market because there are too many different consumers with wildly different needs and expectations yet people hark back to the olden days when more was included.  Even people who weren't born then go back in time and draw comparisons to that all inclusive era missing that ships held a couple hundred guests who all tended to be affluent for that era.    Cruises were more all inclusive back in the day because the affluent guests who booked cruises expected it and could afford it.  It wasn't free, they paid for it.
You still see this on certain boutique or luxury cruise lines.  Ships are smaller with lower capacity and cruise fares are higher.  More is included and the guests booking these types of ships tend to be more similar from a smaller slice of society.     This is not mass market cruising.  
The same concept applies to activities.  Ships have to offer outlandish activities to differentiate themselves from the hundreds of other ships.  Many activities have to be included because of consumer expectations. These activities cost money to build and money to maintain and operate.  It's conceivable that at some point they may need to charge for some activities so that they can continue to offer inexpensive cruise fares. 
Certain activities do carry a charge.  Escape rooms for example.  Why make everyone pay for all activities when not all guests can or want to use them?  A flowrider costs money to build, maintain and operate.   Why should a person who can't or doesn't want to use a flowrider pay for it?
As I get older and stop using zip lines, ice skating, bumper cars, rock walls and so on I could make an argument for why I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else to use them.  

I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
If the windows couldn't open, it wouldn't have happened. If grandpa hadn't put the little girl on the railing, it wouldn't have happened. 
I one thing I do know is that no amount of money will bring that little girl back or fill the endless whole in the hearts of that family.
There are no winners in this. Not RC. Not the family. No one.
It was 10yrs ago yesterday that friends of ours lost their 18m old daughter, who died in her sleep. Not a day has gone by in all that time that they don't think about her and the what ifs. 
They, like this family will have to deal with what happened forever, what ever the outcome of this litigation. Again I say, In cases like this. There are no winners, only losers.

and add a fried egg! Now you've got something! 

My wife doesn't travel without Clorox wipes. No bathroom is ever clean enough!

@Fuzzywuzzythank you for your service!

I heard that cabin was a....wait for it....wait for it
a dump!
Thank you! Goodnight! Try the veal and don't forget to tip your servers.

Next cruise will be the first in a Jr suite and I was just curious if the tubs are  standard size?
It will be nice to move around and not have to take a shower in a phone booth! Although I would gladly shower ever day in one if it meant I was cruising!
For all you youngsters out there that are asking, what is a phone booth? It's where we used to go to make a private phone call in public before they invented cell phones. Go ask your parents or grandparents. ?

I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
If the windows couldn't open, it wouldn't have happened. If grandpa hadn't put the little girl on the railing, it wouldn't have happened. 
I one thing I do know is that no amount of money will bring that little girl back or fill the endless whole in the hearts of that family.
There are no winners in this. Not RC. Not the family. No one.
It was 10yrs ago yesterday that friends of ours lost their 18m old daughter, who died in her sleep. Not a day has gone by in all that time that they don't think about her and the what ifs. 
They, like this family will have to deal with what happened forever, what ever the outcome of this litigation. Again I say, In cases like this. There are no winners, only losers.

Hey @FrHoffard,
Let me know what you think of that cruise. I'll be on the same one in Oct 2020! May be we can share info?

I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
If the windows couldn't open, it wouldn't have happened. If grandpa hadn't put the little girl on the railing, it wouldn't have happened. 
I one thing I do know is that no amount of money will bring that little girl back or fill the endless whole in the hearts of that family.
There are no winners in this. Not RC. Not the family. No one.
It was 10yrs ago yesterday that friends of ours lost their 18m old daughter, who died in her sleep. Not a day has gone by in all that time that they don't think about her and the what ifs. 
They, like this family will have to deal with what happened forever, what ever the outcome of this litigation. Again I say, In cases like this. There are no winners, only losers.