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It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

This is on CDC's twitter feed today. 
The cruise lines after July 18th should ignore the CDC. They would have 2 year olds in masks in all indoor spaces. The cruise lines shouldnt require anyone 2 and older to wear masks. 
Once upon a more rational time, this would be considered child abuse. 
 

This is on CDC's twitter feed today. 
The cruise lines after July 18th should ignore the CDC. They would have 2 year olds in masks in all indoor spaces. The cruise lines shouldnt require anyone 2 and older to wear masks. 
Once upon a more rational time, this would be considered child abuse. 
 

You mean like the masks that worked so well in Japan with a society that has a much higher mask compliance than the US? Japan, who is seeing a surge in Covid cases so much so that no spectators are now going to be allowed at olympics? 
 
The CDC just released their new school guidelines that are saying that unvaccinated children should wear masks. CDC continues to be a joke. 
There will always be new strains of viruses just look at seasonal flu. Covid is well in the way to being endemic. Mass testing needs to end just like they ended testing of H1N1 in 2009-2010. Caseademic at this point. 
 
The variants are now just more panic porn. The Delta variant is no more deadly than original despite what media pushes. 
 
I get that the US wants more people to get vaccinated but fear is not the way to accomplish it
Royal needs to drop masking because masking is just theater at this point and their customers are going to continue to cancel cruises if they continue these masking protocols 

It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

You mean like the masks that worked so well in Japan with a society that has a much higher mask compliance than the US? Japan, who is seeing a surge in Covid cases so much so that no spectators are now going to be allowed at olympics? 
 
The CDC just released their new school guidelines that are saying that unvaccinated children should wear masks. CDC continues to be a joke. 
There will always be new strains of viruses just look at seasonal flu. Covid is well in the way to being endemic. Mass testing needs to end just like they ended testing of H1N1 in 2009-2010. Caseademic at this point. 
 
The variants are now just more panic porn. The Delta variant is no more deadly than original despite what media pushes. 
 
I get that the US wants more people to get vaccinated but fear is not the way to accomplish it
Royal needs to drop masking because masking is just theater at this point and their customers are going to continue to cancel cruises if they continue these masking protocols 

You mean like the masks that worked so well in Japan with a society that has a much higher mask compliance than the US? Japan, who is seeing a surge in Covid cases so much so that no spectators are now going to be allowed at olympics? 
 
The CDC just released their new school guidelines that are saying that unvaccinated children should wear masks. CDC continues to be a joke. 
There will always be new strains of viruses just look at seasonal flu. Covid is well in the way to being endemic. Mass testing needs to end just like they ended testing of H1N1 in 2009-2010. Caseademic at this point. 
 
The variants are now just more panic porn. The Delta variant is no more deadly than original despite what media pushes. 
 
I get that the US wants more people to get vaccinated but fear is not the way to accomplish it
Royal needs to drop masking because masking is just theater at this point and their customers are going to continue to cancel cruises if they continue these masking protocols 

Ok… let’s see the randomized control trials that show the effectiveness of masks..
let’s see the proof masks totally stopped the flu this year but couldn’t stop Covid. 
 
I know it’s easier to believe in the magic of a cloth mask to be effective against an aerosolized virus. 

You understand that Covid was in the US in December 2019, don’t you? 
 
you keep saying we should have locked down earlier. But when would you have? And have you looked at the data from lockdowns across the globe? Lockdowns do not work. 
 
in the US, we cannot totally lockdown a free society. Essential workers still had to go to work. The government can’t keep printing money to sustain the kind of lockdowns you seem to be advocating. 
 
as far as medical “experts” go, they ignored years of established science in order to try the lockdown experiment which has caused more damage than Covid. And we will continue to experience the collateral damage of lockdowns for years to come. What we have done to our children in the US because of lockdowns is shameful. 
 
And because Covid happened in an election year, of course it was politicized. 
 
Unelected health bureaucrats are not to  establish national policy. Zero risk is not a viable national policy when it comes to viruses. Our elected officials failed us. Covid risk and mitigation is just one of 100s of considerations when considering national policy. The government in this case picked winners and losers during lockdowns which caused many small businesses to go under while large corporations thrived. Poverty is a major factor  in ones health. 
 
Your continued advocating of lockdowns totally ignore the data from around the world. They do not work. Locking down harder is not the answer. Protecting the vulnerable was the answer but yet we shoved Covid infected seniors back into nursing homes which killed more seniors. Mask mandates did zero good. See Japan now and tell me masks work. New Zealand and Australia, 2 island nations had some of the hardest multiple lockdowns but yet Covid still is spreading there. I’m sorry but data and science is not on your side 

Only 2 norovirus outbreaks shows how rare it is.
 
Over sanitization on other public transport is due to the bad assumption made early on that covid was spread on surfaces.

It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

You understand that Covid was in the US in December 2019, don’t you? 
 
you keep saying we should have locked down earlier. But when would you have? And have you looked at the data from lockdowns across the globe? Lockdowns do not work. 
 
in the US, we cannot totally lockdown a free society. Essential workers still had to go to work. The government can’t keep printing money to sustain the kind of lockdowns you seem to be advocating. 
 
as far as medical “experts” go, they ignored years of established science in order to try the lockdown experiment which has caused more damage than Covid. And we will continue to experience the collateral damage of lockdowns for years to come. What we have done to our children in the US because of lockdowns is shameful. 
 
And because Covid happened in an election year, of course it was politicized. 
 
Unelected health bureaucrats are not to  establish national policy. Zero risk is not a viable national policy when it comes to viruses. Our elected officials failed us. Covid risk and mitigation is just one of 100s of considerations when considering national policy. The government in this case picked winners and losers during lockdowns which caused many small businesses to go under while large corporations thrived. Poverty is a major factor  in ones health. 
 
Your continued advocating of lockdowns totally ignore the data from around the world. They do not work. Locking down harder is not the answer. Protecting the vulnerable was the answer but yet we shoved Covid infected seniors back into nursing homes which killed more seniors. Mask mandates did zero good. See Japan now and tell me masks work. New Zealand and Australia, 2 island nations had some of the hardest multiple lockdowns but yet Covid still is spreading there. I’m sorry but data and science is not on your side 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
 
We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility (Figure 2). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched.
 
Evidence from RCTs of hand hygiene or face masks did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza, and limited evidence was available on other environmental measures.

I would suggest you read up on viral interference. Masks didn’t cause the flu to go away this year. Covid did. 
 
https://medium.com/illumination-curated/the-unexpected-case-of-the-disappearing-flu-64fd1fa5e909
 
 
 
 
 

What science? Please tell me? 
 
we were told mask didn’t work
we were told mask not only work but the former CDC director told us mask were more effective than vaccines.
we were told Covid spread easily outdoors so we were told that playgrounds, parks, beaches, etc needed to be closed for our safety. 
 
we were told Covid could spread on surfaces so we were told to sanitize like crazy. 
 
we were told asymptomatic spread wasn’t a major driver until we were told it was. 
 
we were told and continue to be told that each new variant is THE killer variant
we were told at one time that the morbidity rate was up over 3%
 
Fauci told us to disagree with him was to disagree with science itself while Fauci flip flopped so many times 
scientists told us that when Texas dropped their mask mandates that Covid cases would explode and excessive death would follow
Lastly, we were told by the scientist that there was no way Covid escaped from a lab
So which science hasn’t mattered? 
 
again… we have a years worth of data now. We have to learn from the mistakes of politicized science and never let them happen again. 

You understand that Covid was in the US in December 2019, don’t you? 
 
you keep saying we should have locked down earlier. But when would you have? And have you looked at the data from lockdowns across the globe? Lockdowns do not work. 
 
in the US, we cannot totally lockdown a free society. Essential workers still had to go to work. The government can’t keep printing money to sustain the kind of lockdowns you seem to be advocating. 
 
as far as medical “experts” go, they ignored years of established science in order to try the lockdown experiment which has caused more damage than Covid. And we will continue to experience the collateral damage of lockdowns for years to come. What we have done to our children in the US because of lockdowns is shameful. 
 
And because Covid happened in an election year, of course it was politicized. 
 
Unelected health bureaucrats are not to  establish national policy. Zero risk is not a viable national policy when it comes to viruses. Our elected officials failed us. Covid risk and mitigation is just one of 100s of considerations when considering national policy. The government in this case picked winners and losers during lockdowns which caused many small businesses to go under while large corporations thrived. Poverty is a major factor  in ones health. 
 
Your continued advocating of lockdowns totally ignore the data from around the world. They do not work. Locking down harder is not the answer. Protecting the vulnerable was the answer but yet we shoved Covid infected seniors back into nursing homes which killed more seniors. Mask mandates did zero good. See Japan now and tell me masks work. New Zealand and Australia, 2 island nations had some of the hardest multiple lockdowns but yet Covid still is spreading there. I’m sorry but data and science is not on your side 

It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

You mean like the masks that worked so well in Japan with a society that has a much higher mask compliance than the US? Japan, who is seeing a surge in Covid cases so much so that no spectators are now going to be allowed at olympics? 
 
The CDC just released their new school guidelines that are saying that unvaccinated children should wear masks. CDC continues to be a joke. 
There will always be new strains of viruses just look at seasonal flu. Covid is well in the way to being endemic. Mass testing needs to end just like they ended testing of H1N1 in 2009-2010. Caseademic at this point. 
 
The variants are now just more panic porn. The Delta variant is no more deadly than original despite what media pushes. 
 
I get that the US wants more people to get vaccinated but fear is not the way to accomplish it
Royal needs to drop masking because masking is just theater at this point and their customers are going to continue to cancel cruises if they continue these masking protocols 

What science? Please tell me? 
 
we were told mask didn’t work
we were told mask not only work but the former CDC director told us mask were more effective than vaccines.
we were told Covid spread easily outdoors so we were told that playgrounds, parks, beaches, etc needed to be closed for our safety. 
 
we were told Covid could spread on surfaces so we were told to sanitize like crazy. 
 
we were told asymptomatic spread wasn’t a major driver until we were told it was. 
 
we were told and continue to be told that each new variant is THE killer variant
we were told at one time that the morbidity rate was up over 3%
 
Fauci told us to disagree with him was to disagree with science itself while Fauci flip flopped so many times 
scientists told us that when Texas dropped their mask mandates that Covid cases would explode and excessive death would follow
Lastly, we were told by the scientist that there was no way Covid escaped from a lab
So which science hasn’t mattered? 
 
again… we have a years worth of data now. We have to learn from the mistakes of politicized science and never let them happen again. 

You understand that Covid was in the US in December 2019, don’t you? 
 
you keep saying we should have locked down earlier. But when would you have? And have you looked at the data from lockdowns across the globe? Lockdowns do not work. 
 
in the US, we cannot totally lockdown a free society. Essential workers still had to go to work. The government can’t keep printing money to sustain the kind of lockdowns you seem to be advocating. 
 
as far as medical “experts” go, they ignored years of established science in order to try the lockdown experiment which has caused more damage than Covid. And we will continue to experience the collateral damage of lockdowns for years to come. What we have done to our children in the US because of lockdowns is shameful. 
 
And because Covid happened in an election year, of course it was politicized. 
 
Unelected health bureaucrats are not to  establish national policy. Zero risk is not a viable national policy when it comes to viruses. Our elected officials failed us. Covid risk and mitigation is just one of 100s of considerations when considering national policy. The government in this case picked winners and losers during lockdowns which caused many small businesses to go under while large corporations thrived. Poverty is a major factor  in ones health. 
 
Your continued advocating of lockdowns totally ignore the data from around the world. They do not work. Locking down harder is not the answer. Protecting the vulnerable was the answer but yet we shoved Covid infected seniors back into nursing homes which killed more seniors. Mask mandates did zero good. See Japan now and tell me masks work. New Zealand and Australia, 2 island nations had some of the hardest multiple lockdowns but yet Covid still is spreading there. I’m sorry but data and science is not on your side 

What science? Please tell me? 
 
we were told mask didn’t work
we were told mask not only work but the former CDC director told us mask were more effective than vaccines.
we were told Covid spread easily outdoors so we were told that playgrounds, parks, beaches, etc needed to be closed for our safety. 
 
we were told Covid could spread on surfaces so we were told to sanitize like crazy. 
 
we were told asymptomatic spread wasn’t a major driver until we were told it was. 
 
we were told and continue to be told that each new variant is THE killer variant
we were told at one time that the morbidity rate was up over 3%
 
Fauci told us to disagree with him was to disagree with science itself while Fauci flip flopped so many times 
scientists told us that when Texas dropped their mask mandates that Covid cases would explode and excessive death would follow
Lastly, we were told by the scientist that there was no way Covid escaped from a lab
So which science hasn’t mattered? 
 
again… we have a years worth of data now. We have to learn from the mistakes of politicized science and never let them happen again. 

Lastly, wasn’t the main argument against the CDC that the cruise lines said that the CDC was not following the science? 
 
if the cruise lines continue to require vaccinated passengers wear masks then they are the ones ignoring science. 

It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

It’s just a mask…
its just 2 weeks…
it’s just 15 days to slow the spread..
its just shutting down children’s playgrounds to protect them..
its just closing beaches…
its just a 5 year old wearing a mask all day in school…
its just having children at summer camps in extreme temps required to wear masks..
it’s just suspending elective surgeries at hospitals for a Covid surge that didn’t happen…
its just an increased rate in suicides among young people because of isolation…
I’m sorry but it is a big deal when the CDC and our government has been so wrong so often about Covid and Covid protocols/lockdowns over the last year
Hopefully we learn from the past and seriously evaluate the mitigation methods taken against Covid and not repeat these same mistakes moving forward and this includes the cruise lines and masking. After July 18 when the CSO is no longer enforceable, masks should not be required on cruise ships. Cause guess what, even with masks, Covid cases will happen. 
 
 
 
 

You mean like the masks that worked so well in Japan with a society that has a much higher mask compliance than the US? Japan, who is seeing a surge in Covid cases so much so that no spectators are now going to be allowed at olympics? 
 
The CDC just released their new school guidelines that are saying that unvaccinated children should wear masks. CDC continues to be a joke. 
There will always be new strains of viruses just look at seasonal flu. Covid is well in the way to being endemic. Mass testing needs to end just like they ended testing of H1N1 in 2009-2010. Caseademic at this point. 
 
The variants are now just more panic porn. The Delta variant is no more deadly than original despite what media pushes. 
 
I get that the US wants more people to get vaccinated but fear is not the way to accomplish it
Royal needs to drop masking because masking is just theater at this point and their customers are going to continue to cancel cruises if they continue these masking protocols