Vancity Cruiser

According to Tony from La Lido Loca a couple passengers were removed from Celebrity Edge in St Maarten for violating protocols while in port.

You are absolutely right. I don’t actually expect much to change on the 18th if the CSO goes away. The reps for the lines have already talked about the difficulty in trying to bring so many ships back on line in a short period. Crew needs to be trained, supply chains need to be ramped up, itineraries need to be planned and scheduled. It will make all those plans easier to make without the CSO hanging over them but don’t expect a switch to flick and all ships will be back sailing. Even without the CSO I would be shocked to see all ships back in service before first quarter of 2022

Royal has amazing entertainment and on Oasis class ships (which includes Harmony) you are able to make reservations. Be sure to catch the aqua and ice shows as well!

Attend an art auction or buy a watch

I was just thinking about this (not from a shareholder position, just from curiousity) and was going to start a new thread. Lost in all the positive news about restarting is the fact that cruise lines are still bleeding money, possibly even worse than when all the ships were in layup. Their operating costs are going up at a rate that I am sure is much faster than any revenue finally coming in. It is amazing that these companies have managed to survive!

Pun intended?

While they won’t come right out and say it that is the underlying message. The cruise lines can’t afford any bad press right now until the industry is proven again. I feel the message is all adults should be vaccinated however as they still want to cater to families the rules are more for unvaccinated children. Most of the areas off limits for unvaccinated are adult only spaces.

While not hostility, I know my inlaws have been frustrated by being bumped as pinnacle members (over 700 nights on board) from prime seating by Star class. While I (or they) do not have a problem with people paying for prime perks that kind of loyalty should not be dismissed.

I hope it becomes permanent. With more and more people becoming diamond (especially with the double points offer) it makes more sense than overcrowded diamond lounges where everyone is trying to get free drinks.

Anyone who is vaccinated is going to have no issue volunteering proof of their vaccination. It is only the antivaxers who don't want anyone asking to show proof a vaccination. I prefers Celebrity's angle on this rather than Royal's where because of the unvaxed all the vaccinated cruisers will be required to wear masks as well

Definitely check out all the shows. Mama Mia is fantastic but Royals original production Blue Planet was amazing! The aqua shows and ice shows are also a must see.

So after sueing the CDC to allow cruising he is now going to say Celebrity cannot sail under these rules? What a mess!

I could be completely wrong but my interpretation is this. Royal requires every eligible person to be vaccinated in order to sail. On the cruises that state ‘fully vaccinated’ they will only allow vaccinated folks (no children)on. On the other sailings they still require all eligible people to be vaccinated but will also allow children under vaccination eligible age as well. So all eligible people must be vaccinated to cruise Royal Caribbean. Some ships will only allow these folks but some ships will allow children as well.

I wonder what that will do to cruise fares in the short term as demand far exceeds supply

That was my reaction as well.

Hopefully.......I was very surprised to see the dates for their restart plan. If Royal is able to restart more cruises quicker as a result of conducting test sailings this could open up more market for Royal as well.

Matts blog on NCL's restart plan shows a much more phased in approach than I was expecting with all the momentum in the industry the last few weeks. I wonder if this is indicative of what other lines will do. Most ships not starting until much later in 2021 or even early 2022. I was thinking my Jan 2022 on Symphony was a sure thing but if NCL's announcement is a signal of what is to come it may not be such a sure thing.

January 2020, when covid was some just some weird thing happening over in China

Yep. On a cruise is the only time I truly disconnect and shut my phone off. I am fine with this move though if I can grab a paper copy from guest services. I understand most people just toss it.

This is probably the biggest thing for me as well. My job requires me available for calls and emails at all times (often answering emails while on vacation) but when on a cruise my phone goes in the safe as soon as the cabin is available and I truly disconnect! Sigh.............I really miss disconnecting ?

I couldn’t believe that statement from the CDC was real! Did they actually want fully vaccinated people to still wear masks outdoors prior to this?! If this is their standard I’m starting to question weather cruising will start in the US before November.

I believe we will hear of addition ships sailing from Caribbean ports this summer within the next couple weeks. I think it’s clear that sailing from US ports won’t restart till the fall at earliest. The CDC had a hate on for the cruising industry long before this pandemic even started.

I’d say they give zero f$&@‘s about the increased pressure since they just doubled down on their website that going on cruises is the highest risk possible on their scale and they advise against getting on any cruise ship anywhere in the world.

So they made amendments, but only to this one item?

They may go straight to a spam folder. Mine used to go there until I marked them as not spam