Censored Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 This post is for experienced Club Royale gamblers who have achieved either Prime, Signature or Masters status. My wife is Signature and I am Prime. We enjoy the benefits and complimentary cruises we have earned. We have already achieved that status level for The April 1st reboot date which will take us into April 1st 2024. We both play , but from the start we both play ONE sea pass card in order to boost the points quickly and present a stronger level of rated consistent play. Once we reach Signature, we double up on the other to achieve Prime. After that we coast and take it easy and enjoy with mild moderate gambling, as to achieve Masters, it would take far too much of a bank roll to get there and perhaps not worth the comped Grand Suite. Many times having achieved 8,000 points you now have earned a Junior Suite. You can also combine your spouses certificate if one is awarded. So here's the question, should a "Prime" player continue with the assistance of the "Signature " partner continue to play to earn Signature status? If that is the goal, then getting there has weakened the Signature players rating.... as far as I know. We get an annual complimentary cruise with balcony with Signature status, and a Inside room with Prime. Combine those and you get a Junior suite. When 2 Signatures are combined , you get a Grand Suite or higher. Everybody is different I know, but I am researching what is the best way to achieve their goals. Our bank roll is $5,000 most of the time. Looking forward to some strategies from seasoned Club Royale Players. THX, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 I'm try to make sense of your post......you have a strategy that seems to work for you but won't work for most people. I like to gamble but considering I also hold loyalty status, there is little benefit to me, as a mostly solo cruiser, going pass prime. Signature only gets you internet and a balcony at 10x the threshold. I care so little about suites. I find they lose value when you sail solo and have status. If you don't sail Oasis or Quantum class there aren't any real suite amenities. I never spend more than what I might pay for a cruise. I know your plan is similar as a GS could be $6-10k on a newer ship. But the status in the casino is rarely the goal. If I'm close, I make it a goal but mostly I gamble for enjoyment. I'm little confused as to what you mean when you said helping the other would weaken the Signature status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 I wish I could help you but we can never use your combo strategy as we play table games only, and different games entirely (he plays blackjack and I play Ultimate Texas Holdem) so no help there. Ethics aside, I think your strategy is sound. I’m not entirely sure I understand your question. Are you asking if you should keep pressing the Signature level towards Masters rather than pressing the Prime level towards Signature ? Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobroo Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 The only winning gambling strategy that I know for Casino Royale.......HAVE FUN. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScooterScott22 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 We tried to work through the question and IF we understand, here is my wife's thoughts (she understands the players club on land and sea in our family). Background - she has the higher of the two of us on the ship and has varied with the Vegas casinos over the years (we used to live in Nevada). We understand the question to be - after one player in the family hits Signature and one hits Prime, what is the best strategy to play moving forward for the best comps. It seems that Casino Royale system is a little different from the other programs. The levels seem to be locked into the comp and once the level is achieved, there doesn't seem to be any change in the benefit until the next level. With the Vegas casinos they have dedicated player hosts that help book rooms and other perks but they are also monitoring your game play. They know when, how much, etc. and will use that information even if you are stuck between the levels to add perks, or even "demote" you if your activity is not enough (didn't lose status but with low activity lost access to the host). https://www.royalcaribbean.com/content/dam/royal/resources/pdf/casino/casino-royale-rewards-table.pdf That doesn't seem to be the case on the ship. Maybe someone at the Masters Level can confirm but they don't give you any bonus for gameplay above the threshold for the level. Once you are signature even if you get to 90,000 credits, there is no additional perk. It would be nice if they had something in-between the levels like the 340+ and 525+ for Diamond Plus in C&A. Since there is no benefit for the extra game play, it seems for you the best option is to work on the lower players level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, ScooterScott22 said: That doesn't seem to be the case on the ship. Maybe someone at the Masters Level can confirm but they don't give you any bonus for gameplay above the threshold for the level. They use algorithms that we aren't privy to in deciding who gets which casino offers. You don't even need to be prime to start receiving offers on the Club Royale page. That's why it's really hard to give any advice as to which way will give the best results. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 What @AshleyDillo said is why I don't understand wanting to go past Prime status on a cruise ship. Its only one annual room and then the offers are hit or miss. My sometimes travel companion is not prime, she has free offers for interior, balconies, and JS. I do rank and I get only $... off offers. I have MGM/local casino status and when I gamble other places the comps are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScooterScott22 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 hours ago, AshleyDillo said: They use algorithms that we aren't privy to in deciding who gets which casino offers. You don't even need to be prime to start receiving offers on the Club Royale page. That's why it's really hard to give any advice as to which way will give the best results. From what my wife can tell the "algorithm" is not really anything but the stated comps in the link that was shared. They do seem to be pretty lenient on who actually gets offers, Royal probably just wants to get head in beds so they can get more revenue through other means, including the casino. My point for the OP is that gameplay in a land based casino is going to get noticed way before anything on the ship. I'm not being argumentative just looking at the focus around the question of getting a comped Grand Suite. As was pointed out by the OP, two signature players each having a annual comped balcony, could combine to get the grand suite. Unlike land based casinos, where gameplay may get you free rooms, upgrades, dining credits, tickets to events, entries into tournaments, gaming credits, etc. and are consistently being adjusted and communicated by your personal host, the ships program is pretty much straight along the list they shared on their site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APM Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 You can no longer combine offers to reach a stateroom class above grand suite….but you can pay for the upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgestang Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 I just gamble to have fun. It turns out my level of enjoyment puts into Prime on the first cruise I take every new fiscal year. You'll go crazy trying to keep track of it all and ultimately fool yourself into thinking you're 'getting one over on them'....... WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 I have a question since this post is about strategies and tiers. Can offers be stacked? I have about 5 moneys off offers for the same cruise window. Can I use them all on one cruise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Ampurp85 said: I have a question since this post is about strategies and tiers. Can offers be stacked? I have about 5 moneys off offers for the same cruise window. Can I use them all on one cruise? I don’t think so. They will allow Dan and me to stack our offers IF they are earned on the same cruise but I’m pretty sure that the rule is 1 certificate per booking. Ampurp85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 @WAAAYTOOO I assumed as much but just wanted to be sure. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredie Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Can you do in as a land casino and ask for comps ? Maybe a dining package ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Fredie said: Can you do in as a lane casino and ask for comps ? Maybe a dining package ? Not that I know of. The casino comps on ships is usually a room on a cruise and drinks at certain thresholds only. But there are discounts to be had at the tier levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 The only time we were ever given specialty dining as a casino “perk” was MANY years ago (before the current Club Royale program even existed) during an Atlantic crossing. Never even a hint of anything like that, these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wranedrops19 Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:23 AM, WAAAYTOOO said: The only time we were ever given specialty dining as a casino “perk” was MANY years ago (before the current Club Royale program even existed) during an Atlantic crossing. Never even a hint of anything like that, these days. When I was on Wonder of the Seas end of Jan 23, I was offered comps. They said you have to pass a certain threshold of points on the ship to be eligible for the comps. I was able to choose to take the comps in free play and/or apply them toward purchases on the ship (not including taxes/fees/gratuities/next cruise). I chose to book an excursion because I hadn't bought anything on the ship. Problem is, excursion was cancelled due to weather and I ended up letting my kids pick stuff out in the gift shops, using the comps to cover that, and then taking the rest in free play. To be clear, this is not the same free play you earn as you rack up points (where you can turn 500 points into $10 free play at the machine). If we went to a specialty restaurant, I could have used the comps for that as well. The difference is you are essentially covering the cost by putting on your stateroom and the casino host will reimburse your account for the amount. While I did earn Signature on that cruise, I was already Prime and was offered comps before I hit signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 IMHO the program as a whole is not worth the effort put forth in obtaining any of the status levels unless you throughly enjoy gambling and achieve them regardless (that would be me). I know some will say the annual cruise comps are worthwhile, but I disagree. The comps are great for a retired couple or a couple w/o kids who can hop on and off a cruise and take advantage of the horrific promotional dates that are offered but for the average family, the program benefits are just short of worthless. I do enjoy the “free” drinks while playing in the casino but that’s about it. I hope corporate revisits the program and does a serious revamp across the board. Transparency in the use of these “comps” would be key. It’s been at least 4-5 years since we have received a worthy offer or comp from this program and actually getting said comp was more effort then it was actually worth. Gone are the days we could get a CLS for the price of a balcony stateroom. I will just take my free beers and crawl back in my hole because it’s probably just going to get worse. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTraveler Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 In terms of on-cruise comps, make sure to visit the host at the end of every cruise and ask for whatever free play you've accumulated. (You may be able to use that as OBC instead, not sure.) They don't give it to you if you don't ask. I believe it's something like $20 per 1,000 points acquired during the cruise. This doesn't affect future comps and doesn't "spend" the points you've received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said: IMHO the program as a whole is not worth the effort put forth in obtaining any of the status levels unless you throughly enjoy gambling and achieve them regardless (that would be me) I agree. There's no reason to try to get casino status if you don't enjoy (and can afford) gambling. For me, it was something I was doing already and then saw it wouldn't take much more effort/money to get to Prime. tonyfsu21 and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 I agree, I am not a port excursion person. I don't shop. I do enjoy gambling. With ships over capacity and record bookings, I don't look for the casino comps through the mail. What I do, is see if what I do plan to gamble with works for the onboard casino comps. It is sustainable for me, I don't recommend to anyone hoping to hit big, game the system, or try to support their family with "free" cruises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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