HAK1906 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 As a big cigar fan, one of the reasons I enjoy Royal Caribbean is their Connoisseur Club for a venue to have a Cigar and a scotch/whiskey/bourbon. I have to mention they seem empty a lot of times when I am in there. Are they basically the same on all ships or variation by ship? Xobertlab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Interested to hear about this. Never seen one of these on any of my cruises so far. Last cruise I wanted to enjoy a cigar one evening with fellow cruiser and was told the only place on the ship to do that was outside by the pool....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I've been to the one on Jewel of the Seas, and it was busiest in the evening after dinner. It's certainly nice to have an indoor spot to enjoy a cigar but it definitely did skew more empty than full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildawgscottFL Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 On my very first Royal cruise (Legend), the Viking Crown Lounge was THE cigar bar and it was packed - half partaking and half just hanging out. I loved it! My wife, who does not smoke cigars, loved it too! I don't smoke cigars as much these days, but I like to do so 3-4 times a year in the right venue, and a cruise is the right venue. However, Royal has made a sea change (pun intended) in its cigar smoking policy, relegating cigar smokers to tiny rooms where no one goes. Cigar smoking is, for many of us, a social thing as well as an indulgent thing (like the Native American or Indian smoking rituals). By hiding us away, they've taken much of the enjoyment out of the experience. For instance, on the Oasis two years ago, the cigar smoking area was not just on the pool deck - it was in a tiny area that one had to find magically by climbing a hidden flight of stairs, and it was secluded from everything and everyone else. At least on the Freedom (a month ago), cigar smoking was allowed around the main pool area (as well as the Connoisseur Club). But I don't want to sit in a section full of cigarette smokers while I'm enjoying my cigar. Cigarettes take away from the refined flavors and scents of cigars. Cigarettes are for the proletariat. I am The Bourgeoisie! I am Royalty! ;) Hence why I cruise on Royal. :lol:Long story short, I'm disappointed with the direction Royal took on this. Cruises, by their nature, are indulgent. Relegating cigar smoking is akin to relegating the drinking of alcohol, but I don't see that happening. Give us back a front and center night club!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't think the Oasis class ships even have a Connoisseur Club, do they ? Not sure about Quantum. I think it's a shame. I don't smoke anymore (never smoke cigars) but I agree with Scott. Cigar smoking is the kind of luxury you want to be able to enjoy on a cruise...especially since you can get the really GOOD cigars and smoke them outside of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildawgscottFL Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't think the Oasis class ships even have a Connoisseur Club, do they ? Not sure about Quantum. I think it's a shame. I don't smoke anymore (never smoke cigars) but I agree with Scott. Cigar smoking is the kind of luxury you want to be able to enjoy on a cruise...especially since you can get the really GOOD cigars and smoke them outside of the US. No, they do not! :( :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAK1906 Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 From what I have read the Freedom and Voyager class ships all have Connoisseur Clubs. Additionally other cruise lines have Cigar Bars as well. I agree with the previous posts, a cruise should give someone the ability to indulge and have a fine cigar coupled with a Single Malt Scotch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLC Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 From what I have read the Freedom and Voyager class ships all have Connoisseur Clubs. Additionally other cruise lines have Cigar Bars as well. I agree with the previous posts, a cruise should give someone the ability to indulge and have a fine cigar coupled with a Single Malt Scotch. You are correct that other lines have cigar clubs. However, the trend seems to be that they're being replaced with venues that have more revenue potential because of lack of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 While on a Freedom or Voyager class, keep an eye out in the compass for the "Cigars under the Stars" night. Last March while on the Adventure I attended the event, up at the Sky Bar above the main pool area along with a half dozen other cigar enthusiasts. For $20 the Connoisseur Club Manager paired everyone's individual preference in cigars with a proper cognac or brandy for their choice of sticks. I met some great people and it was a fun time. Check it out next time you are on a Freedom or Voyager class cruise. The event is usually held around 10 pm and if I remember correctly it was about mid week. Galveston Steve, Matt, HAK1906 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 While on a Freedom or Voyager class, keep an eye out in the compass for the "Cigars under the Stars" night. Last March while on the Adventure I attended the event, up at the Sky Bar above the main pool area along with a half dozen other cigar enthusiasts. For $20 the Connoisseur Club Manager paired everyone's individual preference in cigars with a proper cognac or brandy for their choice of sticks. I met some great people and it was a fun time. Check it out next time you are on a Freedom or Voyager class cruise. The event is usually held around 10 pm and if I remember correctly it was about mid week. Sounds like a great event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Vitale Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 The idea of cigars is completely lost on me, but I would think a cigar lounge is something a ship should have if they don't already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 So there should be one on my next cruise then as I am heading out on Independence...I will be looking forward to it! Cigars under the stars sounds like a great time...especially as one of the ppl I am travelling with is a huge cigar connoisseur! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 We are doing a b2b on the Liberty beginning the Sunday after Thanksgiving, so I will check out how the event is done on a Freedom Class ship. I sure hope it wasn't an exclusive event for the Adventure.........stay tuned!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 The idea of cigars is completely lost on me, but I would think a cigar lounge is something a ship should have if they don't already. I picked it up from a friend. It's more of a social thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildawgscottFL Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 We are doing a b2b on the Liberty beginning the Sunday after Thanksgiving, so I will check out how the event is done on a Freedom Class ship. I sure hope it wasn't an exclusive event for the Adventure.........stay tuned!! It's not just an Adventure thing. I remember seeing that on the Freedom cruise compass. I did not have time to attend, so I cannot speak to the quality of the event. Check out the days and times here: http://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/cruise-compasses/freedom-of-the-seas/sun-2015-10-18-0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galveston Steve Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 I was just on Liberty (Freedom Class) and did not see the Cigars under the Stars event in the cruise compass. If so I would have been there! I think that's a great idea and hope they do it on more ships. Liberty does have a Connoisseur Club but unfortunately when I stopped in to check it out there were both cigar and cigarette smokers in there. I agree that cigarettes should be banned from a cigar venue. On Serenade several years ago one of the night clubs on the top deck (where many Concierge Lounges are now) was designated for cigar smokers. My son and I lit up in there and enjoyed some live music and a drink with our cigar. The waiter knew cigars and offered to clip and light them for us. That was a nice time and I agree with others that it would be nice to have a venue on the ships that allows cigars as a social event with live music and drinks instead of just a room that you can smoke in. OBX and lildawgscottFL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRoberts Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Leaving on Adventure in 13 days, hope they still have this event, always like to have a nice cigar and a good scotch to end the day OBX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just back last Sunday from our b2b on the Liberty. Disappointedly, as Steve mentioned above, there was no "Cigars under the Stars" event held the entire two weeks. However, I did spend some time in the Connoisseur Club (Deck 5 forward) and met some great people and shared discussions on our favorite smokes. I have found that you can meet some very interesting people during the time it takes to enjoy a good after dinner drink and fine cigar. There is a small bar in there as well, so you can also pair with a scotch or bourbon and can even buy a cigar if you didn't bring your own. On occasion there was a cigarette smoker but I really didn't find it a distraction as they were in and out quickly. I spoke with the Club Concierge about a "Cigars under the Stars" event and he said that he had never held one during his time there, so I guess it probably has something to do with each individual Concierge. We will be back on the Adventure for a couple of weeks in February, so I will provide another update when we get back. I hope they still hold the event as there is something special to me about sitting under the stars on a beautiful night with a good cigar. Galveston Steve, lildawgscottFL and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks for the update...I will be on IOS in just over 3 weeks so I will report back if they do or not. Will be curious to hear about Adventure as I am heading out on her in April with a friend who really enjoys his cigars! OBX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thank you for the update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekkie Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 The Connoisseur Club on Explorer of the seas went no-smoking when it hit Australian waters. We have strict laws here on smoking and I guess that applies to ships sailing from our ports too. The Casino also went no-smoking at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonD Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I've been in the Connoisseur Club on Freedom and it was rather empty this past summer. On Monarch, the Viking Crown served as the Cigar area and on Allure the only place available was the top side pool deck bar... Don't remember exactly which one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Just realized I didn't post once back from Independence.....it did have one. Wasn't very busy anytime I was there. And nothing under the stars events that I saw listed anywhere. Had some higher end drinks there as well...I didn't inquire as they were not covered in my drink package from what I could tell...haha I am heading out on Navigator in January so hoping theirs is still open. It was a nice place to go and relax for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think getting rid of the Connoisseur lounge on many of the ships is/was a mistake. Of course, they didn't ask my opinion, either. :) As a former smoker, I think the smokers - and particularly the cigar smokers - should have a nice, comfortable non-judgmental place to go and have a smoke. Expensive liquor goes with expensive cigars and I while I no longer smoke and I am not much of a drinker, I actually enjoy the smell of a good cigar and a good Scotch together. I know...weird thing for a girl [term used loosely] to say. It's kind of like the smell of sweetfeed and leather in a barn, if anyone can appreciate that analogy (horse people only, I guess). I'm sure it was a revenue decision, as all such things are....but it's a damn shame, IMO. It is/was one of the classier places on the ship - perhaps underutilized, which may have sealed its fate...but still a shame. Smoker haters didn't have to go there if they didn't want to. Maybe you cigar smokers should have spent a little more on the expensive liquor and maybe they would have saved it. Just kidding ! janza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsbrady Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So I will be on the Allure in Jan. Wondering where I will be able to smoke a cigar onboard? I agree with you WAAAYTOOO. Cigars go perfectly with an Adult beverage, so pushing cigar smokers to some random corner of the pool deck not near a bar is a loss of revenue. Cigar smokers tend to drink more expensive drinks, Single Malts, congacs , not to mention buying a cigar onboard. I loved the Connoisseur club on the Voyager and half the people there weren't even smoking. Just a different atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 We were just on the Allure about a month ago so, unfortunately, be prepared to go to the port side of the main pool deck bar. I guess they realized that a bar close by is a money maker with cigar smokers! In the ship compass they announce a "Cigars under the Stars" there mostly every night (around 8pm till late) but it isn't an organized event as I previously enjoyed on the Adventure. It's just the only place to enjoy a cigar and meet other cigar enthusiast's. According to the bartender they also have a limited selection of cigars. I usually bring my own so didn't ask to see what was being offered. We will be on the Navigator in January and the Freedom in late February so will report on the cigar experiences after getting back. Hope you have a great cruise on the Allure as she is an amazing ship......just not very accommodating for cigar smokers, especially on the windy foul weather evenings. We were on the Allure during the meeting of the three sisters and enjoyed that experience greatly. The Harmony definitely received a very special welcome home! bsbrady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I knew that Royal Caribbean International is getting rid of the Connoisseur Club on Adventure of the Seas during the drydock and it will have the Library & Card Room be relocated at where the Connoisseur Club is used to be located. When the Freedom-class ships (Freedom, Liberty, and Independence of the Seas) get the next drydock in the future, will Royal Caribbean International get rid of the Connoisseur Club? Please let me know because I have heard that there are not many people using the Connoisseur Club and most indoor places onboard the Royal Caribbean International ships are non-smoking. If Royal Caribbean International does get rid of the Connoisseur Club on the Freedom-class ships (Freedom, Liberty, and Independence of the Seas) for the next future drydock, I do request the Library & Card Room and also the Royal Caribbean Online to all be relocated at where the Connoisseur Club is used to be located on the Freedom-class ships (Freedom, Liberty, and Independence of the Seas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAK1906 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 There is still a connoisseur club on liberty of the seas. We just sailed out. Here are a couple photos of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Nice! I don't know why they don't keep these. They take up such a small space on these huge ships. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lubin Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Is there a cigar lounge on the navigator of the sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lubin Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 At the present time (2019) is there a cigar lounge on the navigator of the sea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dennis Lubin said: At the present time (2019) is there a cigar lounge on the navigator of the sea? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 12/9/2016 at 12:59 PM, [email protected] said: If Royal Caribbean International does get rid of the Connoisseur Club on the Freedom-class ships (Freedom, Liberty, and Independence of the Seas) for the next future drydock, I do request the Library & Card Room and also the Royal Caribbean Online to all be relocated at where the Connoisseur Club is used to be located on the Freedom-class ships (Freedom, Liberty, and Independence of the Seas). Welcome to the message boards! This site is an unofficial fan site not affiliated with Royal Caribbean. Any comments posted here will not be seen by Royal Caribbean. Navigator converted this space into the Diamond Club for members of the Crown and Anchor Society who are Diamond or higher. Mariner used this space for a library. Both are non-smoking. Only time will tell what Royal has in store for similar ships as they get refurbished over the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lubin Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Where can one enjoy a cigar on the Navigator of the Sea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 3:12 AM, Dennis Lubin said: Where can one enjoy a cigar on the Navigator of the Sea? I believe the answer is pool deck smoking area. This is not ideal for an enjoyable and relaxing smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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