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So when the vaccine was being required, people who agreed with this said to those who didn't "Then you don't have to cruise"  
Well , I guess now the shoe is on the other foot now!

I'm not going back to delete posts, but this is your reminder THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO DISCUSS IF THE VACCINE WORKS OR EFFECACY. 
Also, if you don't agree with someone else's take, leave it be. You're not going to convince someone here of anything, other than the best cocktail at the bar.
Another pro tip, you don't have to get the last word! Leave it be.
Going forward, I will delete and lock threads.
"Why do you have to delete? Why can't you let us talk like adults"
Because it ends up being a war of words, and everyone gets annoyed and upset. 
KEEP THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CRUISING. 

your opinion!

So when the vaccine was being required, people who agreed with this said to those who didn't "Then you don't have to cruise"  
Well , I guess now the shoe is on the other foot now!

So many unhinged people!  Why is "Choice" and "Opinion" such a bad or incomprehensible words ?
I suspect Disney will also follow RCCL!

I’m vaccinated and don’t give a flip what others do. In theory, I should be safe from possible exposure to an un vaccinated individual. I have no worries about being around the unvaccinated.  Im good with that. Time to live life again and get my cruise on!!! 

I love "unite around common interests and agree to disagree sometimes" but we also need to understand when we agree or disagree those are called "opinions" which we should respect. 

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Like I said before,
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So when the vaccine was being required, people who agreed with this said to those who didn't "Then you don't have to cruise"  
Well , I guess now the shoe is on the other foot now!"

I love "unite around common interests and agree to disagree sometimes" but we also need to understand when we agree or disagree those are called "opinions" which we should respect. 

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I love "unite around common interests and agree to disagree sometimes" but we also need to understand when we agree or disagree those are called "opinions" which we should respect. 

I love "unite around common interests and agree to disagree sometimes" but we also need to understand when we agree or disagree those are called "opinions" which we should respect. 

Not a scientific study by any means but allow me to share my experience.  My whole household got it except for me who continued sleeping in the same bed as my wife and was in very close contact at the height of when it was most contagious. Ate off my kids fork and plate too.  I seem to have some form of natural immunity and am rocking antibodies. Why would I want a vaccine in the short term? That's my real life experience.  Why would I want to give the vaccine to my family right now?
There isn't a one size fits all approach here. Reading these comments,, Snark toward those we disagree with just fuels the division. At the end of the day we all want to get back at it. Unite around common interests and agree to disagree sometimes. 
 

There was one recent study where researchers studied pre-covid blood samples of kids and found antibodies that would work against covid. More research into that might help explain why kids are much less affected

Here is something that might blow some people's minds. 
Currently, not everyone the works in the health care industry is vaccinated because they have a choice. Rules are changing everyday in which what PPE is being required working in this field. 
Soon, the mask mandate is going to be lifted for those individuals in this field to wear masks.  
Just our of curiosity, for those on this blog who work in the health care industry, did your employer make you get the vaccine?  I personally, haven't heard of many people forced or mandated to get one.  I believe in most cases it was the CHOICE of the individual. 

The biggest kicker in the vaccine mandate debate is that more and more studies are showing that natural immunity from recovering from covid is just as good a the vaccine. I know the CDC allows for a 90 day window prior to a cruise, those who have recovered from covid in the last 90 days is becoming less and less

My hospital did not mandate vaccines when we started getting them in December. We have, however, been served notice recently that there will be a 100% vaccine requirement by January 1, 2022.  Those not vaccinated will no longer have a job, or admission privileges (as the case may be) 
The mask mandate in healthcare facilities (at least in TX) is controlled by the Texas Medical Board. I no longer have to require masks to be worn in my office, however the hospital is a 100% mask zone, and will be until at least mid year 2022. 

Like I said before,
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So when the vaccine was being required, people who agreed with this said to those who didn't "Then you don't have to cruise"  
Well , I guess now the shoe is on the other foot now!"

Love It!

Lot of strong opinions here for vaccinations,  being unvaccinated, allowing personal choices or allowing the goverment/companies to mandate their policy on you. 
I support choices as long as your choice which is different than mine doesn't infringe on my choices. 
Couple of thoughts.  Do you all read what you post? Just because you disagree, doesn't make the other person a jerk bully or ignoramus. Quite the opposite, you become those things.
When did this country become so risk adverse? This virus depending on age group generally averages out to a fatality rate of less than 1%, you surely take greater risks elsewhere in your life just about every other day
At this point if you are vaccinated you took a calculated risk in terms of unknown long term side effects
At this point if you are unvaccinated you are taking a calculated risk in terms of getting the virus. 
If your vaccine works, why do I need one?
If your vaccine doesn't work, why do I need one?
At the end of the day, our love of cruising brings us here. Enjoy life, live and let live, be kind and agree to disagree sometimes. 
I will get off my soapbox now.
Happy cruising at some point, tip big for the poor souls who have been out of work for so long and help to make our memorable vacations. 

With everyone being treated as unvaccinated, this means that everyone will have to give a negative test done at least 3 days before cruising. 

I have side to side cruises booked. Valiant Lady, which will be fully vaccinated, then Odyssey of the Seas. Since I can't get a PCR test for Odyssey, does that mean I have to cancel?
Royal caved to Florida, plain and simple.

The best way to consider others, on or off the ship, is to vaccinate. Remember, if an outbreak occurs on the ship, everyone's cruise will be ruined, not just the unvaccinated.

Well, vaccinated people are pretty much 'virus proof' and get to live a normal life. Those willing to voluntarily show they have been vaccinated may get access to areas closed to those who are not. Those that are not vaccinated take their chances and potentially will have to face the consequences of their decision, what ever that might be. There is your freedom. You get to choose.

That is why they had mask riots and threats on the governors life in the great state of Michigan?
guess we just have to disagree on this point.  I will say though
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
  Voltaire (1694-1778) French writer and historian.
have a pleasant rest of your evening and good health to you