Jump to content

DunkelBierJay

Members
  • Posts

    756
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    4

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to deep1 in CDC going after Nassau ?   
    I believe Jill to be right. They are having a tantrum they can't control the whole world. Today the Congress added a bill to the Senate one trying to bring this to an end. It doesn't bod well to have multiple states suing then bills from both house and senate looking to clip their wings.  Bahama numbers very low. Their peak came in October with five times as many active cases as they have now (2500 vs 450). Most days have no deaths. About 40 new cases a day nation wide...  CDC are behaving like spoiled children who's toys are being taken away... 
  2. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to Jill in CDC going after Nassau ?   
    No it’s a scare tactic in my opinion. They had one small spike in cases 3 days ago (129), last 2 days zero cases. Sounds like a testing dump. Their numbers go from high to zero multiple times. 
  3. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to JeffB in CDC going after Nassau ?   
    For this kind of comparison to be meaningful, it might be better to compare cases/10K in Nassau and surrounding area v., for example, Broward Co., home of PEV. This way you get an idea of the level of circulating virus in a specific locale rather than nationally. National new case numbers, as I have argued, are misleading and virtually useless.
    However, the point probably still stands. I imagine that Nassau has a much lower level of circulating virus than Fort Lauderdale. Just guessing though. Reporting varies widely and it is hard to compare locals, states or countries. I can also advance the argument, that the CDC will not presently allow to be argued, that a requirement to be vaccinated to board a cruise ship pretty much eliminates arguing about levels of circulating virus around the port being a concern or preventing cruise ships from porting.
    Does all of this twisting ourselves in pretzels trying to make sense of it just confirm for us how absolutely screwed up the CDC's picture of reality is?  
  4. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to cruisellama in CDC going after Nassau ?   
    Patronize the cruise line and the new home port country.  
  5. Haha
    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says NO to Vaccine Requirement for Cruise Lines sailing from Florida Ports   
    Actually cruises will start 8-12 months after herd immunity is achieved.  The CDC runs on an 8 - 12 month delay so they will keep cruising shutdown well after the emergency is over.
  6. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to RBRSKI in Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says NO to Vaccine Requirement for Cruise Lines sailing from Florida Ports   
    Good for Him!!  The CDC and Government is pushing the vaccine and it should be the choice of the person!  Not the Government, CDC  or Businesses!  
  7. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from vanelli56 in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  8. Haha
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Hince57 in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  9. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from jticarruthers in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  10. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from SteveinSC in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  11. Haha
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from AlmondFarmer in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  12. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    I've liked DeSantis because he throws it back in the face of the press when they take things out of context...I like him even more for suing the CDC...if any Floridians want to send him to TN so you can take our loser governor, I am into that.
  13. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    A stunt is saying you are looking into a lawsuit.  
    Filing an actual lawsuit rises above "stunt".
  14. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from RWDW1204 in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  15. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from AshleyDillo in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  16. Haha
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Ogilthorpe in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  17. Haha
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Traveler in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  18. Haha
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  19. Love
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from emmef in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
  20. Haha
    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    You missed a couple...
    7.  All internal walls including cabin walls need to removed so the inside of the ship  is one large space.  In addition all exterior windows need to be removed and all decks above removed so essentially everywhere on the ship is outdoors at all times.  Maska are required while any passenger or crew is indoors including but not limited to indoor spaces that are now outdoor spaces.  
    8. Test cruises will be comprised of inmates from maximum security prisons who have been granted pardons. In the event there are not enough pardoned inmates available cruise lines may petition prison wardens for unpardoned inmates using form 23.76.162.a which will be created in phase three once all test cruises have been completed in phase two.
    9. One doctor for each passenger is required, including a dedicated doctor for each doctor.  Each doctor's doctor shall also have a dedicated doctor.  The doctor's doctor can be another doctor, but the doctor's doctor's doctor can not be a ship's doctor.   Each doctor shall have three nurses.  A ship's doctor can be a doctor for a nurse but a nurse can not be a nurse for a doctor unless they are from the same household.
    10.  Any ship that has completed a test cruise can apply for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise but not after completing a test cruise.  A ship can not apply for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise.  Any ship that applies for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise will be disqualified for a period of three years.  Ships that meet all requirements to apply for a certificate to sail must quarantine for a period of 2 months after receiving their certificate to sail before they can submit an application to quarantine.  Once they have completed the quarantine period they can apply for a waiver to not quarantine unless they already have received a certificate to sail.  
  21. Haha
    DunkelBierJay reacted to Traveler in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    Oh , but you know what will happen , yes the CDC will announce the  simple protocols in few days and it will be something like that :
    1. Only people that got two vaccine shots will be allowed to board  beside people that got it from Pfizer , AZ, Moderna or any Chinese/Russian vaccine , your are OK if you got two shots of the JJ vaccine.
    2. People who want to cruise will need to bring a letter from their  doctor proving they never catch  a cold in their life .
    3. The ship Captain name should start with Z and and with X , captains who changed their name on the last 10 years can not participate.
    4. The number of people who are allowed on the ship will be calculate by the fowling simple formula  length of the ship divided by the number of floors multiply by the integral of the ship stern multiply by square root   of -1/2 +   but no more than 10.5 including the crew.
    5. The ship will be divided to 4x4 areas to avoid social contact  , each area will be paint with one of 3 different colors while each area can not have a border with an area that has the same color.
    6. Once the ships will be ready  a one year test can start from Johnston atoll. 
     
     
     
  22. Like
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from 4ensic in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    Florida and Alaska reps are already exerting pressure. We need to get flyover reps aware and involved. Becerra is not going to do anything until these agencies are shamed publicly. It's the language they speak, so I have my duolingo app set on it.
  23. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to JeffB in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    The target audience for your Congressman and Senators is HHS and it's just confirmed yesterday Secretary,  Xavier Becerra The CDC works for him.
    The biggest hurdle is to get CDC Director Walenski to acknowledge facts on the ground instead of a combination of both good and bad science she seems to be relying on along with an unrealistically cautious approach to disease control in the case of SARS2. She needs to be convinced that waiting for additional benefits of strict mitigation measures (like closing ports to cruise ships to prevent transmission of COVID) are more harmful than any benefits that will be gained.
    She's already acknowledged, in the video I linked to elsewhere, that deaths and hospitalizations - the true measure of disease burden - have fallen dramatically since the introduction of vaccines in mid-December.  Given the vaccination requirement to sail that appears to be base line for RCL, given the demonstration of disease mitigation aboard cruise ships that CLIA has articulated and advanced in their news release, given the huge economic impact that a continuation of the cruise ship ban in the US is unnecessary and harmful.
  24. Like
    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    https://cruising.org/en/clia-action-center

    TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress to Help Restart the Cruise Industry! Yesterday, CLIA called on the Biden Administration and the CDC to lift the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order (CSO) and allow cruising to be on track to resume sailing in the U.S. by the beginning of July 2021.    Today, we get to work—and we need your help! Please visit the CLIA Action Center to email, call, and/or Tweet at your elected officials in the House and Senate and tell them to urge the Biden Administration to lift the CSO. Our announcement was a big step, and the journey is just beginning. We have our work cut out for us, but the facts are on our side.  • Since the industry’s voluntary suspension one year ago, cruise lines have been prevented from operating in the U.S. even as public health conditions have improved and other sectors have opened or continued to operate throughout the pandemic.    • Over the past eight months, a highly-controlled resumption of cruising has continued in Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific - with nearly 400,000 passengers sailing and additional markets scheduled to come online in the spring and summer.    • The industry’s enhanced public health measures are working, with fewer than 50 confirmed cases of COVID-19 onboard CLIA member cruise line ships since resumption started last summer, based on public reporting.    • More than 300,000 jobs have been lost in the US due to the suspension of cruises. The majority of those impacted are independent business owners or individuals employed by small- to medium-sized businesses.    • Restarting cruises as part of the broader travel industry will provide a much-needed boost to the U.S. economy - with the cruise industry supporting nearly 450,000 American jobs and contributing over $55.5 billion annually, prior to the pandemic.    • An early-July resumption is in line with President Biden’s forecast for when the US will be “closer to normal.”    • There is no such thing as ‘normal’ without cruise ships! The cruise community is a vital part of the travel and tourism economy and should be afforded the same opportunities to begin to recover from the devastating impacts of the pandemic.  It will take every single one of us to be successful. The Time is Now. Will You Join Us? JOIN US!    
  25. Love
    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from SPS in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

×
×
  • Create New...