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    CruisingKitty reacted to twangster in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Wasn't this the lawyer who invited the media to watch a version of the video his team edited and prepared for the media viewing?
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    CruisingKitty reacted to WoodsCommaElle in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I am so baffled that anyone is defending the parents and grandfather at this point. Granted that number is shrinking with the video evidence being loud and clear, but I can only think that anyone taking the family’s side knows them. Mom and Dad have to be the dumbest prosecutor and cop in the country to ask that the surveillance be thrown out. I don’t even care about their feelings at this point. 
    Lots of people have gone to jail for not meaning to kill someone. Why should the grandfather get off? What if he had sent a text while driving and Chloe died in the backseat? Should he still get off just because he feels sad? 
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    CruisingKitty reacted to HeWhoWaits in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Stupidity might be his only defense.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to HeWhoWaits in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    If stupidity was a crime we would need many, many more prisons.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to WoodsCommaElle in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Does the lawyer think the security videos are made up or reenactments? He’s becoming a parody of himself at this point. I almost want to laugh. 
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    CruisingKitty reacted to PattiHere in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I wonder if there were eyewitnesses, we haven't heard anything, but I am sure statements were taken by the authorities.   
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    CruisingKitty reacted to SpeedNoodles in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    The lawyer is grasping at invisible straws.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to F1guynz in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    The following is an except from an article on the Fox News website.
     
    Michael Winkleman, an attorney for the Wiegands, has since called Royal Caribbean’s motion to dismiss “baseless.”
    “It is clear that Royal Caribbean’s tactic is to blame Chloe’s grandfather rather than to accept that Royal Caribbean did not implement industry standards for toddler safety aboard its ships which ultimately led to Chloe’s tragic death,” Winkleman said, in part, in a statement shared with Fox 43.
    Winkleman further claimed that Royal Caribbean was supplying “two deceptive views from its CCTV cameras.”
    On Friday, attorneys for the family filed two further motions: one to strike the video footage, claiming the "the authenticity of the videos" had not been established; and another asking the court to make Royal Caribbean "to produce all video footage from all of the cameras," of which Winkleman had said there were 13 in total.
     
    The video footage seems pretty conclusive in my eyes. Even allowing for camera angles the grandfather was a long way outside the window. He would have banged his head on the glass if the window was closed.
    The court would have received the videos directly from Royal Caribbean so I don't believe you can dispute their authenticity without implying some kind of conspiracy occurring in the background.
    I suppose if you can exclude all the evidence that proves something to be true then anything is possible.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Brobbins246 in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I hope he took on the case pro bono where he won't get paid unless he wins.  Not that I want the family to avoid having to pay him out of pocket, but I want the atty to not be paid at all even more.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to JLMoran in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I for one am very glad that in this particular instance, Royal is not simply "rolling over" and going directly to arbitration. I'm betting the lawyer firmly believed this is what they'd do based on his past experience, and wasn't banking on Royal having such comprehensive and damning video of the whole event. Instead, after having their reputation dragged through the mud by him and this family, Royal appears to have decided to go to the mat with this slime ball and the family that he's roped in. They pushed too hard and too fast and left Royal with no real choice but to take this all the way through and clear their own name.
    And if / when Royal wins, you can bet the family will be paying the slime ball for all of his legal fees and related expenses. He will come out on top (financially, anyway) no matter what. Royal already appears to be turning around the court of public opinion, and (sadly) that is probably the biggest part nowadays of being able to then win in the court of law.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Manana Chkadua in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I believe the parents lawsuit against Royal Caribbean should be dismissed and negligent homicide charges against the grandfather should be pursued. I hope he will be convicted of the charges. There is so much lying in this case that I do not know whether it is not an intentional accident:
    1. Grandpa put the child over the safety barrier and on the window ledge which is a reckless and negligent action by any child guardian. The window ledge never will by a safe baby play area,
    2. The Grandpa claims he is color blind. However, this has nothing to do in determining whether the window is close or open. He said on a national TV that he felt a  breeze and could not feel the window panel. I never found a person that cannot determine whether window is close or open. Also, he admitted that he was not quite certain whether the window was closed but after sticking his head and upper torso outside the window, he decided to put the child there. It was at best a reckless action leading to the negligent homicide charges.
    3. While at the PR precinct, he refused to take a blood test claiming his medication would produce false positive. So our IT man is quite smart but yet, he claims he could not determine whether the window was open. Something is fishy here. People take drugs, painkillers, oxycodons and other recreational drugs not to mention booze. Apparently, he was hiding something which would explain his erratic behavior( putting the child on the ledge of the open window and than dropping her out of the window). 
    4. Also, right after the accident was announced all over news, next we know they already have the maritime lawyer. Hmm, did they anticipated the need for him?
    Over, all if the grandpa was not related to a cop, he would be arrested, thrown in jail and the blood test would be done. I feel sorry for the girl but I hope that her parents get nothing and eventually recognize that it was entirely the grandpa fault. I do not think they should profit from the poor kid's death.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Jmccaffrey in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    All it takes is to be on a RC ship near a window to know that it has a green tint and wind comes thru open windows..... But with is Video it is clear as day that RC did nothing wrong. 
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    CruisingKitty reacted to WoodsCommaElle in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I would have no words at this point for anyone who continues to defend this grandfather and the parents. The parents should just do the right thing at this point and have their civil suit dismissed. 
    I keep saying this is a terrible accident, but at some point, the grandpa has to be held accountable. I’m in my 30s and even I can’t stand how personal responsibility is a dying concept in today’s society. Always blame someone else. Always go for the lawsuit and the money. As if that will bring your baby back. 
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    CruisingKitty reacted to tiny blonde in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Yay RC!  RC's lawyers have apparently been seeing and saying the same things we have been saying here on this board.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to VinceC in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Royal Caribbean is filing a motion to dismiss...
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/granddad-toddler-who-died-cruise-ship-fall-knew-window-was-n1117796
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    CruisingKitty reacted to CruiseGus in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I for one am glad the video has gone public and that RCCL has made a public statement to the effect that they hold no responsibility for the negligent actions of an adult.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Hince57 in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    an overlying issue, i think, is the role of the attorneys in this situation. i think the evidence speaks for itself, but if their legal representation thinks they can still get a pay day, they're going to press.  this may have already been addressed.
    forgive me for getting into this on page 25...
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    CruisingKitty reacted to twangster in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I think I would have more respect and feelings for him (and the family) if they would have admitted his guilt and negligence.  
    The whole "not me, it must be someone else's fault" approach in the face of clear and damning evidence has influenced my view of his situation and not in a good way for him (or the family).
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Ditchdoc in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    I can't say I know how Anello feels about it. Many are saying he is devastated about it, as any rational person should be.
    But then, is any man that holds a child out an 11 story window rational?
    At first I felt sorry for him and his anguish is a suitable punishment.
    Now I am not so sure. Perhaps he should be trialed, convicted and spend the rest of his days in a PR prison.
    The man was apparently egregiously stupid.
     
     
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    CruisingKitty reacted to CoupleOfCruisers in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    It’s just all so heart breaking sad all around. I’ve felt from the start the Grandfather was 100% at fault for this tragedy. I understand his denial it must be a very heavy burden to carry in his heart much less admit to.
     
    The lawsuit and tv interviews the parents gave were also heartbreaking to watch.   I suppose I can understand the need to blame an outside party for the tragic death of your child.
     
    Now with the release of the video showing he definitely held little Chloe out an open window. I pray the parents drop the lawsuit and move on. Puerto Rico should offer Anello a plea deal admit guilt and have probation for a set time.  There’s been enough heart break. 
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Ditchdoc in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    https://fox59.com/2020/01/17/royal-caribbean-says-video-unquestionably-proves-grandfather-knew-window-was-open-before-dropping-toddler/
     
    In a nut shell:
    " Anello leans his upper-torso over the wooden railing and out of the window frame for approximately eight seconds. "
    " Anello stays in front of the open window, which was 11 decks high off the ground, while holding Chloe for approximately 34 seconds before she fell. "
    "Royal Caribbean says the “only reasonable conclusion from the video” is that Anello knew the window was open before lifting Chloe over the wooden rail and holding her out the open window for a “considerable period,” thus “recklessly endangering her life.” "
    To me .... 34 seconds is new ... and pretty dreadful.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to tiny blonde in Who would ever let go of your child, even if there was no glass there?   
    Of course the lawyer wants the videos dismissed! This lawsuit is going to be a very fierce battle. BTW, I have had the nagging thought, as well, that the grandfather planned it, that he thought he'd be doing the family a favor by ending the life of this special-needs child, whose care and education was going to cost more money. She was probably the star of the family, and maybe was the center of his wife's attention, and they may have argued about money. I think I (or someone) could write a great mystery novel about a possible backstory.
     
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Matt in Itinerary - Which do I believe?   
    In a situation like this, I'd probably use what the Cruise Planner shows as gospel.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to Bakerette in Itinerary - Which do I believe?   
    2 weeks after your sailing I am going on the same ship and to the same ports as you. So far I have been on about 5 Royal Caribbean cruises and the Royal Caribbean website has showed the correct ports of call that the ships will be docked at and what order they will visit different countries. I always trust that the Royal Caribbean website is correct and you SHOULD TRUST ROYAL CARIBBEAN and If I were you I definitely WOULD NOT TRUST CRUISETIMESTABLE.com, because to me that website seems to have wrong information.
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    CruisingKitty reacted to fonemanbob in sitting on the balcony   
    And a sunburn will be a sad way to spend the cruise.  Or perhaps seeing yourself on you tube.  Worse yet being  arrested for indecent exposure in a foreign country.
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