usmcddv Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 I heard...(somewhere)..that Icon is sailing at about 70% (or something) and that they are gonna be gradually increasing their fill rate to 100% for the summer. Anyone have any intel on how that is being managed? Like are they gonna be at 85% in April (extra 250 pax every cruise, etc.) Anyone follow what Ima trying to say? Is that even true? Also somewhat tangentially, I heard that the first 4 cruises were "special editions" and then they will settle into the norm (special events, seafood on the WJ, and the like) Any one else heard this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 24 minutes ago, usmcddv said: that Icon is sailing at about 70% (or something) and that they are gonna be gradually increasing their fill rate to 100% for the summer. This is correct. We were on the inaugural sailing and this was told to us (and many others) by many different crew members. 25 minutes ago, usmcddv said: any intel on how that is being managed? No specific details on how they would increase, just that they plan to ramp up to full capacity by summer sailings. 25 minutes ago, usmcddv said: I heard that the first 4 cruises were "special editions" and then they will settle into the norm I saw a few Pins post about this who stayed on for the sailing after ours. That they would be running specifically the special WJ lunch (with seafood) for the first 4 weeks. Not sure how true/not true that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcddv Posted February 15 Author Report Share Posted February 15 Hmmm, thanks! I'm wondering what to expect of my April sailing on occupancy. WJ reviews are of interest to me on the follow-ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHardlyWait Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Anyone get more Intel please post. Maybe my May 4th won't be 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I thought there were 5500 on the first cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 20 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I thought there were 5500 on the first cruise. It was just under 5000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 5000 is still well above 70% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, smokeybandit said: 5000 is still well above 70% They were considering max capacity at around 7600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Just now, Lovetocruise2002 said: They were considering max capacity at around 7600 100% capacity is 5600 though. Vancity Cruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Just now, smokeybandit said: 100% capacity is 5600 though. 5600 is the capacity at double occupancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Just now, Lovetocruise2002 said: 5600 is the capacity at double occupancy That's what published capacity numbers are measured against. BMW Hoosier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Just now, smokeybandit said: That's what published capacity numbers are measured against. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/11/24/icon-of-the-seas-size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadowdaddy Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I'll let you all know, we get on Saturday! Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy2BHere Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I was told we are at 5700 this week..Still feels pretty bare. Aquadome was full for the show last night, just in time for it to be cancelled AGAIN for too much movement…We watched from the coastal kitchen… WAAAYTOOO and Lovetocruise2002 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmw Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 They were doing similar things after COVID, where they began at 50-60% and went up from there. That was partially safety, but also very much about staff levels. Debuting a new class of ship is a very different beast than a typical ship launch. With Wonder, for example, they had the blueprint of 4 other Oasis ships. Very few surprises. Royal has more data than we can imagine and do all sorts of complex studies on crowd movement, but with a brand new ship design there are things they simply won't be able to predict with crowd movement, congested areas, staff needs, etc., until they just open it up and do it. For example, with a brand new pool deck design, certain bars may have much more traffic than others and they may need to adapt how many bartenders are staffing one vs. another. Better to make that correction at 70% capacity when the lines are only sorta long vs. when they're at 100% and it's a clusterf**k. However, I can almost promise you they'll be as full as possible for Spring Break cruises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorCruiser Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I’m glad to hear mid 5000’s isn’t overwhelming . I’m sure by August it’ll be cranking higher though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Soccer Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 On 2/16/2024 at 6:27 AM, Hoppy2BHere said: Aquadome was full for the show last night, just in time for it to be cancelled AGAIN for too much movement…We watched from the coastal kitchen… Too much movement happened on night 6 of the Inaugural as well. Water splashing out of the pool and the aerial bag swinging across the pool. Recommend reserving earlier in the cruise instead of day 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcddv Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 So I understand the 100% is at double occupancy (~5600.) Do we need to reset our understand of what a 102% occupancy, for example, is with this new ship, based on the number of, until now, unprecedented 2+ passenger cabins. Is this unchartered waters (see what I did there?). But seriously, the reports of it feeling kinda under filled, and the reports of it BEING underfilled have me a bit confused. Does this make sense? Where will they be sailing at in the summer? 7000ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, usmcddv said: So I understand the 100% is at double occupancy (~5600.) Do we need to reset our understand of what a 102% occupancy, for example, is with this new ship, based on the number of, until now, unprecedented 2+ passenger cabins. Is this unchartered waters (see what I did there?). But seriously, the reports of it feeling kinda under filled, and the reports of it BEING underfilled have me a bit confused. Does this make sense? Where will they be sailing at in the summer? 7000ish? Possibly. Since the 5600 is based on double occupancy, and Icon has the largest number of 3+ cabins. Summer occupancy might be 6500-7000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown&AnchorEsq Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 I only just now realized that Icon has so many 3+ cabin rooms, it seems a curious design choice then that there are so few 5+ cabins. I guess I'm just bitter since I rock around with a family of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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