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RoyalLaker got a reaction from Cruising With JT in I spy with my little eye...Navigator from LA edition
Just got off the phone with D+ desk, First sailing out of LA is June 10th 2022 3 nights day 1 LA day 2 sea day day 3 Ensenada no pricing was available. Asked when they would go sale no timeframe was given just said a announcement would go out once they are open.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from SpeedNoodles in I spy with my little eye...Navigator from LA edition
Just got off the phone with D+ desk, First sailing out of LA is June 10th 2022 3 nights day 1 LA day 2 sea day day 3 Ensenada no pricing was available. Asked when they would go sale no timeframe was given just said a announcement would go out once they are open.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from SpeedNoodles in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
I know how that feels. ?
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RoyalLaker reacted to twangster in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
USD
For summer peak season they don't look bad.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from twangster in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
Q class was built with the expansion of the canal in mind. Voyager class was built with never leaving the Caribbean.
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RoyalLaker reacted to twangster in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
Looking at Navigator going through the Panama Canal again. It might be possible with some modifications.
The Bliss is the largest cruise ship to have used the new expanded locks of the Panama Canal. We know her transits through the canal are timed for a low tide passage under the Bridge of the Americas. All I could find is a stated air draft of 60m for the Bliss in reference to her clearing the Lions Gate bridge to reach the port in Vancouver.
The Panama Canal has a published height limit of ~58m for normal transits but there is reference to special clearances being provided for up to 62.5m. These are specially approved because it has to be carefully coordinated with tides and it means arranging other ship transits around the specially approved ship. That disrupts the normal flow of other ships so it's not a rubber stamp approval. Normally ships are maneuvered to space them out based on timing relative to the previous ship, not absolute time of day.
62.5m = 205'
In a promotional video the Captain of the Bliss states that they clear the Bridge of the Americas "with a few meters to spare". This is consistent with her claimed 60m height versus the Bridge clearance at low tide.
During a king tide the tidal change is ~4.5m. If the normal height limit is 58m this additional 4.5m yields 62.5m which is the limit of the special approval process. The Bliss clearing with "a few meters to spare" seems to fit the dynamics in play.
Freedom and Voyager class have an air draft of 210' according to a Florida port study.
210' = 64m
So it seems Navigator would need to lose around 1.5m at a minimum but probably a little more to have any sort of safety buffer.
Looking at her stacks there is what appears to be decorative trim around them.
Is that combined with modifying her stacks to retract enough?
It's hard to judge but there appears to be at least 10' of room to be gained if such modifications can be made.
It would still require a transit at a new or full moon and special approvals by the Panama Canal.
Conclusion
Without modification Navigator does not appear to fit through the Panama Canal if the Florida port study is to be believed.
If they can modify the stacks or funnels of the ship it may be possible to gain enough clearance to fit through the Panama Canal. They would need to apply for special approval and the transit would need to occur based on tide tables.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from cruisellama in 2022 Itinerary announcement schedule?
I was only referring to Celebrity. If my memory serves me correctly 2011 or 2012 the CARB rule went into affect, So Carnival and its brands retrofitted their older California based ships a long time ago. Most if not all home ports will have AMP capabilities and the next step after that will be for the port of calls to have it.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from DD474 in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
In the drop down menu you want to select November 2021,
https://www.portsamerica.com/operations/cruise-los-angeles-terminal-schedule
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from KathyC in 2022 Itinerary announcement schedule?
Celebrity Edge is showing up on a couple port Schedules in 2022 on the West Coast of the U.S. could be just a place holder for another ship.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from cruisellama in 2022 Itinerary announcement schedule?
Celebrity Edge is showing up on a couple port Schedules in 2022 on the West Coast of the U.S. could be just a place holder for another ship.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from WAAAYTOOO in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
3/4 night would suggest Catalina Island, Ensenada, and possibly San Diego based on past itineraries. (Monarch of The Seas)
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from GlowTheWeird in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
In the drop down menu you want to select November 2021,
https://www.portsamerica.com/operations/cruise-los-angeles-terminal-schedule
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from smokeybandit in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
In the drop down menu you want to select November 2021,
https://www.portsamerica.com/operations/cruise-los-angeles-terminal-schedule
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from Zambia-Zaire in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
In the drop down menu you want to select November 2021,
https://www.portsamerica.com/operations/cruise-los-angeles-terminal-schedule
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RoyalLaker reacted to mworkman in You Know It's Getting Bad When......
Need to start passing this out!
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RoyalLaker reacted to twangster in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
All new ships are being built this way and some are being retrofitted during their 5 year dry docks.
California isn't the only area imposing this requirement for the future.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from GlowTheWeird in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
I’m not seeing the LA sailings in the app anymore.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from Vangrizz in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
I’m not seeing the LA sailings in the app anymore.
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RoyalLaker reacted to Vangrizz in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
I'm just basing my speculation off the app overlap for Quantum that Twangster posted about. And maybe a little wishful thinking. Five day runs out of Los Angeles to Catalina and Ensenada over Spring Break at a REALLY good price might work into my plans very well.
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RoyalLaker reacted to GlowTheWeird in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
Just patiently (Somewhat not really patiently haha) waiting for the west coast schedule to post for bookings ......
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from GlowTheWeird in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
I think it's needed to stay competitive. I remember Carnival looked at doing this back around 2010 but nothing came of it.
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from CrimsonCruiser in Diamond plus out of concierge lounges
I’ve always found being kicked off the ship at the end of the cruise more depressing than be told I can’t enter the lounge anymore. ?
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RoyalLaker reacted to Zambia-Zaire in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
Royal would do wonders with a private island(natural or man-made) or private resort on the Mexican Riviera
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RoyalLaker got a reaction from GlowTheWeird in Good news if you have been dreaming of west coast cruises
Voyager is showing up in Los Angeles port schedule June 2021 doing 3/4 nights.
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/01/23/spotted-royal-caribbean-ship-scheduled-sail-los-angeles-california-2021