JasonOasis

I understand your objection to not only this post but some of my other posts. The point that I'm trying to make and have been trying to make is simply this with the exception of Alaska cruises all other cruise that leave the United States are heading to an international country. I 100% respect your views on COVID but your personal views get jettisoned the moment the ship docks in an international country and you disembark. What I'm trying to say is this any one who is unvaccinated can not travel to countries like Israel, Italy, Spain, France, Iceland and a whole host of other countries. You aren't even allowed to board the aircraft here in the United States including Florida, because the country the aircraft is headed too has implemented restrictions which must be complied with regardless of an individuals opinion or views on COVID and vaccines. Countries in the Caribbean are not here to serve or cater to Americans they are not beneath us there are rules and restrictions in place that we have to comply with. If they have entry requirements or concerns over what could be large numbers of unvaccinated passengers coming off cruise ships then they have every right to work with the cruise industry to try and limit the number of unvaccinated passengers they allow onboard and then allow off their ships while the ship is in port. A cruise out of Florida is no different than boarding a flight from MIA heading to TLV they both involve international travel the difference is Florida's law doesn't apply to airlines but it does apply to cruise ships. As much as I like Ron DeSantis this Florida law has made a mess of this entire situation. Countries in the Caribbean who thought 95% of cruise ship passengers would be vaccinated are now faced with the possibility that the number of vaccinated Americans on those ships may be far less than that and it is forcing them to respond and forcing Cruise lines to respond hence the change in RCCs policy. If you are unvaccinated adult and you test positive you and your entire traveling party will be medically disembarked from the cruise even if you are asymptomatic. Right now there are still quite a few Caribbean Islands that require all visitors arriving by air to purchases travel insurance. Just because you arrive by ship doesn't equal an exemption especially if you are unvaccinated. When a cruise ship pulling to a port in the Caribbean after a few minutes or so the captain will come on and say something like: The ship has been cleared by local authorities or customs and immigrations the gangway is now open all aboard is 7pm tonight. Ron DeSantis does not have the authority to force an international country to allow unvaccinated cruise passengers into their country. His power and authority ends the moment the ship leaves the dock period there is no other way to say it and right now because of that law cruise lines are now caught in the middle between Florida's law and complying with restrictions or concerns now being raised by Caribbean nations as a result of Florida's new law.

I thought something like might happen which is why in a different thread I raise the question, what happens if a non-vaccinated adult passenger tests positive and several people posted Royals response they will cover all cost. But when you are talking about resuming cruising on multiple ships from multiple port out of Florida where you are prohibited by law from asking for or requiring vaccines the cost to Royal Caribbean to get customers home would be astronomical. Remember when the industry shut down the CDC prohibited cruise lines in particular from utilizing commercial travel to get people people home if they tested positive. If cruise lines are still barred from booking customers who test positive and subsequently disembarked from the cruise on commercial flights the cost of booking noncommercial travel adds up quickly and there is no way a company like RCC can absorb the total cost associated with getting non-vaccinated passengers home on noncommercial flights. I 100% believe that passengers should have a choice they should not be forced into getting vaccinated just to go on a cruise. However at the same time unvaccinated passengers can not expect a cruise line to absorb 100% of the cost if they should test positive during their voyage. Back in 2018 my husband got sick on a MSC cruise we were on the Divina on a 12 night cruise and they medically disembarked us in Colon Panama. Luckly we had insurance and I'm bless to work for an airline. If we didn't have insurance and airline employee, between the medical cost, hotel cost, port fees (Panama charged us a hefty penny for the disembarkation in Colon), taxi to get from Colon to Panama City and then finally last minute air fare we could have easily been out of $10,000 - $13,000 dollars if not more. That situation was the first time we ever had a medical emergency on vacation and I was grateful we had insurance. This situation we went through is precisely the reason why I've been questioning Royal's policy on covering 100% of cost if a passenger test positive especially if RCC feels like Florida's law would result in a even larger pool of unvaccinated customers (adults) on their ships. There is no way RCC can cover the cost and remain in business if several unvaccinated adult passengers test positive on cruises and require disembarkation. Remember the MSC ship in Italy disembarked not only the 2 passenger who test positive but also their entire traveling party and those deem to be in close contact because they were all unvaccinated. I can only imagine what it cost MSC to get all those passengers home especially if they couldn't use commercial /public transportation.

Kerry Sanders from NBC News is onboard Celebrity Edge as well and he has done a really good job showcasing all the hard work the cruise lines have put in to restart the industry. I think Kerry Sanders my be an avid cruiser but he isn't allowed to say that on national television because in one of his reports he framed the original outbreaks on cruise ships last year as not being the fault of the cruise industry but do to the fact cruise ships were turn away from multiple ports which could have stopped any break. He is probably one of the first if not the only national journalist to finally point out the truth. That being said he did note in his report today although 99% of all passengers are crew are vaccinated, once the Edge arrives in port Celebrity will allow guest to go ashore and shore excursions have to be booked through the cruise line, the reason for the change is because there are unvaccinated children and some adults onboard. In his report this morning he noted since the 2 cases onboard the Millennium, Celebrity on this cruise will test all unvaccinated passengers while in port as they return to the ship. I don't know and it wasn't clear if Celebrity is doing this (testing unvaccinated passengers as they return) simply because of the media presence onboard the Edge, or if RCC is doing this as a test to see if this is something they should explore rolling out to all RCC ships and test all unvaccinated passengers at least in the short term in port as they return back to the ship. He also reported unvaccinated passengers in certain indoor settings are required to where a mask. However when looking at his live shots from the pool deck and other outdoor spaces you can see both adults and children vaccinated and unvaccinated out and about with no mask on. In an interesting turn of events customers onboard don't seem to mind the changes to the buffet instead of people serving themselves the crew serves you. But the ship is only at 40% capacity so there are no lines no waiting it will be interesting to see if that change sticks around or if in time cruise ships revert back to self serve type buffets we've all become accustomed too. One thing he always does is he talks to normal everyday paying passengers and the one thing they all say both vaccinated and unvaccinated is they all feel like they are finally on VACATION. Even though things are a bit different onboard they all have stated they feel like they can finally relax, breathe and have fun again. I must say I'm shocked by NBC News at first I thought they were interested in a "I got you moment" but good ole Kerry Sanders is really doing a great job showing people who may not be avid cruisers just how safe it is get on cruise ship.

The truth that we all are dancing around is this every cruise leaving the US with the exception of Alaska cruises are all sailing to an international country. Right now there are only a few Caribbean island nations that are still closed not only to cruise traffic but just about any tourist traffic. Most Caribbean island nations have reopened and all have testing requirements for arriving passengers who arrive by air they are required to present a negative test no more than 72 hours old and many nations will test the passenger again upon arrival at the airport. However many Caribbean Island nations have chosen to relax those rules or look the other way for cruise ships because they need the tourist dollars that cruise ships bring in. We all know COVID is here to stay it is never going away, we also now know just how effective the vaccines are, in that a vaccinated individual can not spread the virus but also a vaccinated individual if they do get infected 99.999% of them are not facing hospitalization or worst. Here in the US people 12 years and older now have a choice they can choose to be vaccinated or they choose not get vaccinated. However in most Caribbean island nations they still don't have that choice something one of my coworkers pointed out and he happens to be from Grenada, and I feel like that is an important thing to remember when we are talking about shore excursion and Caribbean Cruises. If you are saying there is no chance these children picked up COVID on a shore excursion then what you are saying is they brought COVID onto the ship with them which in turn means they brought COVID onto every island if they disembarked the ship. If we all can't see the danger in that then Lord help us. We are all so concerned about what happens on the cruise ship itself but I wonder how many of us have given one thought to the human beings on the islands that we will come into contact with. Many of them right now do not have access to any vaccine so they don't have a choice vaccinated or unvaccinated but will welcome any and all cruise ship passengers with open arms because they need the tourist dollars. Is Royal Caribbean really the bad guy for saying unvaccinated passengers will no longer be able to go on third party excursions I don't think so. The people in the Caribbean deserve a fighting chance they deserve to be able to make the same choice we all here in the United States now take for granted and a vacation shouldn't override that. Once the vaccines are available to any and all who wants one then I'm all for Royal dropping the requirement but until there is more vaccine in circulation/distribution in the Caribbean all cruise lines have a responsibility to help limit the amount of COVID being brought onto an island by unvaccinated individuals. I believe unvaccinated American's should be allowed to cruise and enjoy themselves on the ship without restrictions. But until there is enough vaccine in circulation where every person who lives in the Caribbean has a choice (the same choice we now have in this country) then I think unvaccinated individuals should be restricted to cruise sponsored excursions where there is a bit more control and where the cruise can limit contact and possible exposure. Last week on this site I posted the only Caribbean island nation that has nearly 70% of their population vaccinated are the Cayman Islands and to give themselves a chance they have banned cruise ships until some point in 2022. The Cayman Islands are one of the wealthiest island nations in the Caribbean as are the British Virgin Islands, and the Turks and Caicos. What I've noticed is the wealthier the island nation the higher their vaccination rates are and the more restrictions they have in place or are exploring putting in place for cruise ships. And while the Cayman Islands has decided to remain closed to all cruise ships the British Virgin Islands which has just reopened will only allow passengers who are fully vaccinated to disembark a cruise ship in port. The governor of the US Virgin Islands is imploring Governor DeSantis to reconsider his stance on vaccines and cruise ships not because the US Virgin Islands is concerned about what happens onboard the cruise ship, he is concerned about what unvaccinated passengers may be bringing onto the US Virgin Islands where there still isn't enough vaccine to meet demand. The US Virgin Islands and the British Virgin Islands are not alone in expressing their concern about unvaccinated passengers on disembarking cruise ships in port and left to just roam freely other island nations are concerned as well and we are starting to hear more about it as we inch closer to cruising resuming from Florida. The cruise industry holds a lot of power within the Caribbean because they are an essential part of the life blood of the Caribbean. Pre-pandemic more passengers arrived in the Caribbean by cruise ship than by airplane. But make no mistake these Caribbean Island nations that are opening their borders to cruise ships and their passengers are hoping and expecting both cruise lines and their passengers to do the right thing and protect these islands until there is enough vaccine where their citizens will then have the same opportunity to make the same choice any American over the age of 12 can now make. In my opinion any American who chooses to cruise unvaccianted in July, August, September, October, even November should expect to run into some type of restrictions at the different ports of call within the Caribbean. Hopefully by December or January 2022 their will be enough vaccine in the Caribbean where these islands can begin to drop their concerns over unvaccinated cruise passengers. Until then I think it is incredibly selfish for unvaccinated cruisers to think their third party shore excursion is more important than protecting people who don't yet have access to life saving vaccines.

Since you came up with this poll I'm curious which option would you choose?

I absolutely agree with you in this Royal is playing checkers when they should be playing chess. If Royal wishes to keep customers loyal to Royal then they should for a limited time (perhaps 3 weeks) make a one time offer only offer to customers for a full refunds regardless if they booked a fully refundable or nonrefundable cruise fare. I think you bring up a valid point by pointed out Royals policy which now states unvaccinated customers who are able to get vaccinated will incur additional cost. Although I'm fully vaccinated and have every intention on going on my cruise at the end of October I would be lying if I said I wasn't reading the blog everyday trying to get a glimpse of what life is like onboard Adventure of the Seas or Celebrity Millennium. Even though I've booked a fully refundable cruise I still haven't paid the balance because I want to read about other customers onboard experiences once cruse resumes from US ports. This way my husband an I can make an informed decision as to if we really want to do this or will we give it a few more months and wait until our January cruise. The closer we get to cruising resuming out of US ports the more confusing the regulations have gotten from one state to the next and come October 29th 2021 it will have been 2 years since my husband and I last boarded a cruise ship. We had several cruise schedule in 2020 starting in April, June, October and November they were all of course canceled, so it's been 2 long years. While we are excited and still love cruising I'm also adjusting my expectations of life onboard and I want to wait and read about other peoples experience about life onboard the ship. We were both sitting down talking about this issue the other night and we were both like if we get the feeling that the changes onboard are too drastic we should just wait and cancel and book another all inclusive resort in Cabo, or Jamaica. That is what we did last year it isn't a cruise but it still was a great vacation. One of the benefits of booking suites are you get to diamond+ status very quickly however being over 400 points away from pinnacle it will take years even booking suites even with their double cruise points offer. I'll admit when it was first announced I was excited but now I'm like it meaningless for customers who are diamond+ and still have several hundred points between them pinnacle. I think once Royal really get its US operations back up and running they should give all customers a chance to digest all of the changes. I think people should be reading blogs like the one found on this site and educate themselves about life onboard to better manage their expectations. I think Royal needs to be completely upfront with unvaccinated individuals who decide to cruise and let them know all the additional cost they will incur and potential cost they could incur should they or any member of their traveling party test positive during the voyage. Finally Royal should make a one time, limited time offer of full refunds for passengers like yourself and tell customers although the changes are temporary, they are also necessary at this time to protect everyone onboard. That being said we look forward to welcoming you on a future Royal Caribbean cruise just as soon as things get back to normal. The value of loyal customers some companies appreciate it others take it for granted that you will alway be there. Although customers did make a choice to book nonrefundable fares they did so under different circumstances. These are not normal times or normal circumstances and I'm a firm believer in fair is fair. Royal should make a one time, limited time exception and those who miss the cut off, they can accept an FCC or if doesn't work then Royal wins and keeps all their money.

This is great news especially for people who are vaccinated because even if you come into contact with a COVID positive person or the cruise deems you've been in close contact with a positive person its doesn't mean the cruise is over if you are fully vaccinated. Contrast that with the MSC where 2 passengers tested positive but with a totally different outcome. In both cases the protocols worked but in two entirely different ways, for fully vaccinated (Celebrity) your cruise vacation can continue once you test negative, but in the case of MSC even though according to USToday only 2 passengers tested positive they are reporting MSC removed not only the to positive passengers but their families which tested negative as well as people deemed in close contact even though they all tested negative except for the two original passengers. The reason MSC took these extraordinary steps and removed all those passengers was because none of them were vaccinated. The protocols worked in both cases but I'm sure the people on MSC who were deemed in close contact (not members of the family or part of their traveling party) were not happy that their cruise vacation was cut short. But because they were unvaccinated and the cruise line didn't want to risk it by allowing them to remain onboard.

I would not cancel a March 2022 cruise based on what's going on now. If current reporting is to be believed most Caribbean Islands are ramping up their vaccine roll outs. The islands with the highest vaccination rate at 60% of the population in the Caribbean are the Cayman Islands but they have banned cruise ship until 2022. The next three islands are Anguilla at 40% then Turks and Caicos at 31%, and finally British Virgin Islands at 26%. All other islands including the Bahamas and Jamaica are below 24%. While over in Mexico and Central America, Mexico leads with just 15% of their population being vaccinated. However all of these cruise destinations with-in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America are ramping up their roll out as more vaccine becomes available so we should see much higher vaccination rate come of March 2022. I wouldn't cancel the cruise right now, instead I would suggest you wait until final payment is due and if it looks like cruise lines are still performing COVID testing during the voyage as that date nears then you make your decision. Don't make a decision based on what you are seeing right now because things will get better as time goes on.

That is not what I said at all, in fact I said quite the opposite I said COVID will come onboard the ship even Richard Fain has stated as much it is how you manage it that will prevent outbreaks, but if you only test passengers 3 days prior to boarding and never test them again how will the cruise line know to enact their COVID protocols? Let's use the recent MSC cruise as an example. Several people tested positive on that ship and they don't require vaccines either to cruise because of the slow rollout in Europe. However, the only way MSC knew they had a problem and to activated their COVID protocols, quarantine the positive passengers and ultimately disembark the positive passengers , their entire traveling party and perhaps even other passengers who were deem in "close contact" was because MSC performed testing and contact tracing during the voyage. If MSC has not performed COVID testing after the voyage was underway they never would have known COVID was onboard the ship which would have allowed COVID to spread unchecked. If you're going to allow unvaccinated passengers on a cruise and that cruise is making stops at several ports of call then cruise lines must perform COVID tests on passengers at some point during the voyage it is the only way to keep COVID cases onboard (and their will be cases onboard) low and prevent any type of outbreak. COVID found it way onto two different cruise ship over the span of 2 days but in both cases what stopped COVID from spreading unchecked was because each cruise line performed COVID testing during the voyage then activated their COVID protocols. Having COVID protocols and activating COVID protocols are two different things.

I don't think that is the case here, I don't think we are dealing with people who presented a fake vaccination card. But this does bring up an interesting point vaccinated individuals can contract covid but I believe the science stated they can't spread covid which is good news for a cruise ship. The issue we could see once cruising resumes out of US ports are unvaccinated individuals who leave the US negative for COVID, disembark the ship at one or two ports of call, come into contact with a person with covid while not taking all proper precautions then bringing covid back on the ship. The major difference between US, European cruises and Singapore cruises is Singapore cruises are to no where therefore there is little to no chance of covid ever enter the ship if it isn't brought onboard during embarkation day. Whereas both here in the US/Caribbean and in Europe you are visiting several ports of call and with cruises relaxing the rules and allowing any and all passengers to disembark like we normally would before covid there is a chance covid could be brought back onboard the ship. Since vaccines will no longer be required the only way to stop any outbreak onboard a ship is by testing all passengers at some point during the voyage, and that is what cruise lines are trying to do they know covid at some point will come onboard a vessel but what they can not have are any more covid outbreaks even though the original outbreaks were not the fault of any cruise line. People keep saying the protocols are working, well the only way for covid protocols to work is for a cruise ship to identify covid positive passengers early and isolate those passengers. The only way to identify and initiate covid protocols this is through testing, because there is a chance covid will be brought back onboard a cruise ship at one or more port of call. If Celebrity has not tested the guests (even though the test was for guest to return home) we would have never know about these two passengers. However, just because we would not have known does not mean covid isn't on board the ship. Since we are not going to require vaccines ( and I'm 100% okay with that decision) we then have to accept the fact that testing must, must be performed while onboard the ship especially if the ship is stopping at multiple ports where all passengers are allowed to disembark and explore the islands on their own.

Here is a section from the cruise contract that covers if a person tests positive for COVID once onboard and is disembarked. f. Passenger Testing Positive for COVID-19 During Cruise. Passenger understands and agrees that if, after boarding, and even if Passenger has fully complied with all COVID-19 Policies and Procedures, Passenger tests positive for COVID-19 or exhibits signs or symptoms of COVID-19, Carrier may disembark, refuse re-boarding after a shore excursion, or quarantine Passenger as well as members of Passenger’s traveling party, or take other steps which Carrier determines, in its sole discretion, are necessary under the circumstances to protect the health and well-being of others.Under these circumstances, any such Passenger with a known or suspected case of infection with COVID-19 who is disembarked, refused re-boarding, or quarantined shall be entitled to a prorated refund or future cruise credit or the unused portion of the Cruise Fare. For further details, refer to Carrier’s refund and cancellation policy at www.RoyalCaribbean.com. Each such Passenger is responsible for all other related costs and fines, including without limitation travel expenses. Under no circumstances shall Carrier be liable to any such Passenger for any costs, damages or expenses whatsoever incurred by any Passenger.If Carrier received payment via credit card and a refund is owed, the refund will be made to that credit card. file:///C:/Users/u216009/AppData/Local/Temp/cruise-ticket-contract.pdf I'm not trying to be confrontational I'm just trying to understand because the cruise contract clearly states something completely different than what the Healthy Sail Panel states. I don't know when the cruise contract was last updated but clearly these two documents are not in agreement.

Then what did Richard Fain mean when he said unvaccinated passengers would have to cover any and all cost associated with their decision to cruise unvaccinated? He made that statement earlier this week and never really explained what additional cost he was talking about.

My concern is for unvaccinated passengers if they either test positive while onboard or they are deem to have been in close contact and Royal decides to disembark them at the first available port it could potentially be very expensive for those individuals to get home especially if they don't have insurance. And if they are actually positive with COVID and its not a false positive they can't return to the US until they test negative which would then involve quarantining in a country they never intended to stay in. I believe people should be given the choice whether they want to cruise without being vaccinated but this MSC story should be treated as an eye opener as to what can happen if you do and you test positive.

As far as I know MSC does not require vaccines, Europe vaccine roll out has had a few delays. The article states the passengers and accompanying parties were taken off the ship and transported home. My question is when they say accompanying parties are they only talking about those in their party or were the close contacts who were also tested remove from the ship as well? Cruising is all about relaxing, meeting people, talking to people, I've met some really great people over the years on cruise ships and since we know they already have the technology to identify who you've been in close contact with can Royal and or did MSC disembark passengers who were also in close contact but not necessarily with the couples traveling party? What constitutes close contact and how long would one have to be in close contact for the cruise to say this person tested positive now you have to come with us as well? Also are their different standards for close contact for fully vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals?

All those billable hours are adding up. Cha ching cha ching the lawyers are loving it and laughing all the way to the bank.

I'm not a fan of the RoyalUp bid process because in my opinion the only winner is Royal Caribbean. RoyalUp is basically Royal Caribbean using your desire to upgrade against you. Meaning if you do win the bid you've probably paid more than the upgrade was worth which means Royal has won and you've lost even though you might think you've won. In my opinion an upgrade should be a win win for both parties involved you score a upgrade at a reasonable price and Royal gets a few extra bucks on a suite they didn't sell at regular price. Some of the RoyalUp offers (bids) I've been sent since they launch the program are ridiculous and although you get to choose how much you are willing to bid Royal sets the lowest bid price and if you go with the basic bottom of the barrel bid you won't win. Therefore I would suggest you call your TA or even call Royal Caribbean reservations directly.

My first cruise was a ocean view cabin, it was nice and that was when the cruise bug bit me but I swore I would never again do an ocean view cabin. Afterwards my husband and I would always book balconies. And for 2 people a balcony isn't bad we had more than enough room, but then a few years ago we did our first B2B cruise on Allure and we scored a last minute upgrade to a junior suite. We called Royal maybe 2 weeks before the cruise and this was before they started the bidding process for upgrades and Royal upgraded us to a junior suite on the 2 cruise of our B2B cruise, that is when the suite bug bit us. We did go back to a balcony for our next cruise but I kid you not we were miserable because we were both like we should have booked the junior suite. Now days we either book a Sea or Sky Class suite, I would love to book a Star Class suite but for now it is out of my price range it is a bit hard for me to justify spending $20,000 dollars on a singular 7 night cruise. At that rate I can book two cruises in grand suites or even crown lofts and still have change to spare. Going from a balcony to a suite is dangerous because it is nearly impossible to go back there is so much more space in those suites.

I would say pick up the phone and call your TA or if you booked with Royal directly then call Royal. My most recent cruise Royal canceled was the inaugural cruise on Odyssey out of Fort Lauderdale in November 2021. The options they offered did not work for my schedule so I called them and was able to book a January 2022 cruise on Harmony of the Seas and the c.s. agent was able to find me a great rate for a crown loft. Keep in mind TA's and Royal Caribbean C.S. agents if they are good at their job can find fares that may not be published on the website. In fact for my Harmony cruise the agent quoted me one price and while she was switching everything over she found a price that was around $350 dollars cheaper per person for the crown loft. Cruise fares are a lot like air fares, the fare you see online is only one fare it doesn't necessarily mean that fare is the lowest fare. The good news is cruise lines don't charge you for booking or speaking with a reservation agent. So pick up the phone and call you may be surprised what a TA or a Royal agent can find.

That is exactly what it sounded like to me. His comments on unvaccinated passengers did lead me to believe those to choose to cruise but are not vaccinated may incur higher cost and more restrictions once onboard the ship. I didn't take it as he was trying to twist customers arm into getting vaccinated. Instead I took as he is letting customers know if you choose to not get vaccinated and choose to take a cruise you will be responsible for covering all additional cost needed to make sure Royal prevents a COVID outbreak onboard one of their ships. So basically he is giving customers a choice while making them aware of the financial responsibility they will incur if they choose to cruise unvaccinated.

Unfortunately the issue is supply and demand. A few weeks ago Carnival cruise lines CEO gave an interview where she said demand for 2022 cruises has already exceed 2019 demand and 2019 was a record breaker for the cruise industry in terms of the number of passengers setting sail. With most of the 2020 season canceled and now more than half of the 2021 season a total lost, a lot of people have already lifted and shifted their cruise vacations to 2022. I know last year my international cruise was canceled at first I moved it to 2021 but then in November or December of last year I moved it again to May 2022 on Odyssey of the Seas out of Rome and scored a really great rate on a grand suite. I just checked the price a few days ago for Odyssey out of Rome and the price has gone up $1,000 dollars per person for the same grand suite. My advise to you would be if you see something you want in 2022 book it now because I don't see prices going down for the 2022 cruise season and there are still a lot of people holding on to their FCCs and as this industry reopens and as general public (most people on this thread are avid cruiser who would have jump on a ship months ago if they had let us) regains confidence in the industry you are going to see more people using those FCCs to book cruises in 2022. You can always book at a lower rate if you should find one but I would recommend you book now if you are serious about going on a cruise in 2022 because demand is will only continue to grow. I don't think prices will come back down until 2023 but by then your FCC will have expired.

This is absolutely ridiculous that these government agencies can't come to any type of agreement that gives this industry a green light.

Finger crossed you get some answers soon. Adventure is a great ship I've sailed on her numerous times but there is nothing that can compare to an Oasis Class ship. My fingers are crossed your sailing does not get canceled.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery they are even copying the Ultimate Abyss slides, but the kicker is Royal will still retain the title of the worlds largest cruise ships. Royal's Oasis of the Seas first set sail with revenue passengers in 2009. MSC finally catches up to Royal by late 2022, just in time for Royal to once again reinvent and reimagine a new class of cruise ship with the Icon Class with debuts in 2023. ? Before World Europa ever sets sail Royal will have uuummm....let me think about this... oh yes 5 Oasis Class ships in service. Not exactly "The New Era for Cruising" MSC would have people believe. Welcome to 2009 MSC glad you finally caught up only to be left behind once again ?

The first thing I'm going to do is just stand on promenade of Symphony thank the good Lord and just take it all in. This my sound cliche but I'll be a lot more appreciative because this situation has opened my eyes to how quickly a government agency can take away our ability to cruise. Afterwards I'm heading straight to Windjammers or Park Cafe to eat.

I'm sorry you'e had issues with wow bands in the past but I've never had any issues with wow bands and I've never paid for a wow band, the wow bands have always been in my cabin on embarkation along with my key card. I've always thought they were free because ever since they rolled out wow bands they were always in my cabin. Like you pointed out they are useful for paying for drinks, food, and other stuff onboard the ship, also they come in handy should a person forget their key card in their room.