bytheslice

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I’m quite sure nobody in the government or the press suggested that anyone inject bleach for any reason.

To be fair, it wasn't the media that said all of that.  The media showed us people we ought to be able to trust saying things, but it wasn't like a reporter sat down and crafted the words then went on air and spoke them.  

I run a restaurant that's remained open throughout all this, I refuse entry to anybody not wearing one, and if it's not on properly, I'm gonna let you know. I'm glad people are calling out others for not wearing it. 

Same experience for me with the app. Kept getting notifications of upcoming reservations just to remind me of the fun I was missing. ?

Within 12 hours of this post my points magically reset to the correct amount...
It's a conspiracy...
 

The problem has existed for decades and doesn't stop with the CDC. Include the FDA and the WHO and you have 3 of the most corrupt organizations on the planet ... and that's just in this grouping!  Branch out to virtually any with an acronym... and we could fill a page! ????

Sorry to read that.  The one thing I have definitely learned is always purchase at the lower price and than go back and cancel the one you purchased at the higher price.  I have read many times how things that have a limitation on the amount available people actually lose it.  IE The Key, Cabanas, Chef's dinner, etc.  All of those items have limited numbers, between the time you cancel and rebook the last one left sold out.

I believe the CDC, like many Government and non-government organizations are good at the status quo. Every year they remind us to get a flu shot, keep some statistics and media reminds us of their expertise. When events escalated the CDC and those other organizations had their incompetence exposed at a leadership level.

Made a ton of money trading RCL, CCL and NCHL stock.. up, down, up, down, up, down..

^^^^ This!
We haven't filled up.since we left for the airport March 5
Downside: haven't been anywhere since we returned March 16  ?

I personally think all the number are suspect, there is no way its not higher. My best friend's twin was 36 when she died of COVID-19 in April, my two godchildren were under 10. Sure a lot of people over 70, who had it, died but so have thousands under. Any avoidable death should be a cause for worry, so regardless of if that 100,000 is 0.001% or not does not matter. The hospitals in Chicago are still backed up. I personally have long gave up on the idea of getting back to "normal" and applaud Mr. Fain for being honest.
People like to hold on to dates, numbers and goal positions as absolutes. Only to rage, pout and protest when real life gets in the way. If Fain had said we will be back August 15th, many people would hold onto that date like a dog with a bone. When it doesn't happen they will threaten lawsuits and call RCCI shady/greedy/not loyal etc.  Regardless if has to do with the second wave or the CDC extending its restrictions. There are some who act as RCCI wants to be closed, like they have a choice in the matter.

^^ this ^^

That 100,000 American dead in just 3 months (WITH a self quarantine in place) is still being thought of as an over reaction is astonishing.

I still believe that this was much ado about nothing.  All of the consequences, including the extended loss of cruising, are the result of the overreaction and the senseless political battle that this all has become. 

Interesting how a few months ago, many here thought this outbreak was much ado about nothing...
 
Now we are talking months and months of ZERO cruises......loss of jobs, losing hundreds of millions of dollars and not sure what or when cruising will be like if or when it comes back....
 
 

I had a feeling Tuesday night  my freedom of the seas trip this July was going to be canceled. So my wife and I started to look for replacements in 2021. It turns out no ships are sailing out of San Juan next summer. So we made a list of wish list of trips of cruises we would like to go on and if we could get any of them we move the trip to next year otherwise we would just get our money back. The #1 trip on our list was symphony of the seas July 10th but the thing that worried us was the same cabin we have on symphony goes for 2200 per person per week compared to the 800 per person we paid for the freedom of the seas. Our thought was lets ask they can say no and we can move on to the cruises lower on our list.
So I call at 7am CST prepared to wait a long time to get someone. I work my way through the phone system and finally get into the que for the next available agent and within 30 seconds I am talking to someone.  I explain that I want to lift and shift to her and she says great and she pulls up my reservations and she says let me see what we can do for you. At that point I ask how about the symphony of the seas July 10th she thinks a second and says I am not sure I can do that for you let me talk to my supervisor. She then puts me on Hold. i was on hold for 45 minutes as she was waiting to get in touch with the appropriate people. she was nice and about every 5 minutes come back and give me a status. finally she comes back and says we can do it the only problem is that the room types do not match up nicely so instead of a spacious cabin I would be getting a large balcony cabin. I was all over that since we only have 3 people per room and I love to sit on the balcony. So then she started to change the cruise for me. The change went slowly as there was issues with some corrupt reservations so that took about another hour of being on and off hold. the entire call took 90 minutes
As sad I was  that we will not go this year as planned I am very excited to take my family on the symphony of the seas next year as that cruise would have been out of our budget.
Long and short of it is ask you may be surprised at what you get.

Pimento cheese is an aberration that should be banished along with "barbecue sauce" based on vinegar or mustard.
No, I'm not a native of the Tar Heel State - and I find much of the "cuisine" to be curious at best.

I've only flown into EWR once on cruise day landing  before 0730.  We had an Airport transfer through RCL. A representative was waiting for us at baggage claim and led us to waiting area in the lower level near ground transportation. This was  a comfortable place to wait. Shortly thereafter, we were called for transport, were able to check in upon arrival and waited in the suite area and boarded a  little after 10.

Very nicely put, no emotion, just an honest post

You have to want to get them home, like calling Royal Caribbean to get an issue taken care of; you have to be persistent. Like a James Van Fleet weather forecast, you have to be honest and frank. Like James Van Fleet, daily briefings and frequent updates will go a long way. Van Fleet uses a bunch of social media to get his word out. In short, honest communication will go a long way with the stranded crew if Royal is in fact trying. Today, Royal Caribbean is not trying.
CDC mandates??? How about turning your negatives around into positives??? How about leadership and guidance??? This whole maritime platform is based on leadership, seniority, and wisdom; well.....I'm expecting brilliance out of highly paid people with stripes on their shoulders and corner offices in Miami and so far I'm not getting any.
If I was the zookeeper I would clean the floating petri dish to the point it was a germ free environment. I would test everyone aboard twice a day. I would implement platforms and activities so that those onboard do things. I would start with the easy stuff, how can we do the dances that are done during the sail away? How can these people go to the main theater and watch a movie or a performance? How can we let them on the pool deck and occupy a lounge chair for an hour? How can we feed them all together? It means changing behaviors, it means changing norms. 
Instead of saying we'll just let our boat and the staff linger on some ocean; I would create a space and protocols that make a cruise ship better and safer than being on land. Someone disembarking from one of my cruise ships would be welcome in any country, in any airplane, or at any hotel. The relative few staff that are onboard would be my guinea pig, a nice small sample size to work with to establish how life and activities on future sailings might be preformed for when we pack the boat with 5,000 passengers.
Imagine....people wanting to get on a cruise ship because it is a better, safer place than where they are at??? Whoa...
Doing so requires leadership. It means changing things and implementing practices that other companies and institutions will look at see are a successful path going forward. It means being a pinnacle.
 
 

Why do so many people here have a difficult time for Royal being exposed for doing something obviously wrong? 
It's clear these crew members feel marginalized. Royal has promised to send them back home and has not done so. Their feelings and concerns are valid and true; Royal is very, very wrong. Why attack the poster or the news source?
 
As a lover of Royal Caribbean, how can you not feel sympathetic for these crew members? Or, do we only appreciate them when they make us a towel animal or bring another drink?
 

I would not doubt that he (op) is a plant for the attorney(fishing for business) of cruzelewdnewz. I'm not spelling it correctly so it doesn't get additional hits. Further, I wouldn't doubt that these type of lawyers (not the good kind) have incited some of this on the ships. "Hey, (crew member name), get a bunch of your buddies together to create a "protest", have them join my class action, and we (I) can make millions!"

Some may be outraged by the pricing, others just write it off as business. Either way, if it's more than you're willing to spend, don't buy it. RC will then have to decide whether or not to drop the price, based on supply and demand. 

I would just say that if the price is too high, don't book it.