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1 hour ago, Matt said:

I can't find the post, but I recall Michael Bayley saying one ship would tender, and the other 2 dock.

That is a lot of people on the island. I can only imagine the wait times for the water slides in the thrill park.

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On 1/12/2020 at 9:27 AM, Max Cruise 1974 said:

30th of April 2020:

Navigator  3926

Mariner      4001

Brilliance   2580

Together 10507 passengers (full occupancy)

TOO MUCH!

Those numbers, as striking as it look, is somewhat of a misnomer....not everyone will go to the island; yet alone, at the same time period or duration. Royal, no doubt, are gauging the volumn it can handle(12,000 is what's quoted) while taking advantage of the opportunity to increase revenue...common practice.

 

There is still much undeveloped growth on the island(a third of the island is currently in use as quoted); and, as more ideas come to fruition, as to more venues & activities, I'm fairly sure another pier will be built & the frequency & volumn will undoubtedly increased...and hopefully some percentage of additional revenue goes keeping prices level, as they invest more & more into the company, in bringing us more technology & conveniences, improved & new fleet, and newer port itineraries & private island and/or resort areas across the world(personally, like on the West Coast....just saying 😏)

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Holy Cow!!!!!

It turns out that there will be three ships in Coco Cay on June 3rd.  The Oasis, Independence, and Majesty.  I just checked RCI's website for the itineraries and verified they are all going to be there on the 3rd.  We'll be on the Oasis.

That's 11742 to 14026 potential passengers between the three ships.

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24 minutes ago, RWDW1204 said:

Found these showing just 2. 

Interesting.  This morning this was what I found.  I just checked a few minutes ago and it still shows the Indiy at CocoCay on the 3rd.  What the heck is RCI's website doing?

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41 minutes ago, MicroBeta said:

Interesting.  This morning this was what I found.  I just checked a few minutes ago and it still shows the Indiy at CocoCay on the 3rd.  What the heck is RCI's website doing?

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Look at the really small print bottom left under day 5.

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2 minutes ago, RWDW1204 said:

Look at the really small print bottom left under day 5.

I did noticed that.  It's certainly an interesting exercise to get the correct dates for certain things.  Not to mention sites like cruisetimetables are clearly using the generic data for sailings making it difficult to post accurate info.  And yet, you were able to easily get the correct dates for an individual sailing.  You'd think itinerary sites would do that too.

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I honestly can’t imagine more than two ships there at a time. Just because the capacity is “technically” there doesn’t mean they should exploit it. I’d probably recommend taking down the “Perfect Day” letters at that point. 

We've been there twice now, on Harmony in August and Mariner last week. We noticed quite a difference with the two smaller ships (us and Navigator, about 8,000 guests max). We got off around 8:30 and got a prime spot, but by 10:30 people were walking around searching for chairs hopelessly. With the beach club construction going on, there were literally people using chairs that were set up along the scrim facing the bathrooms. Not sure they thought it was so perfect. 

Of course once everything is open later this month there will be a lot more capacity, and we can’t complain about either of our days there (I’d be reluctant to choose a cruise not visiting the island at this point). I understand they want to capitalize on this demand, I just hope they don’t ruin it in the meantime. 

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3 hours ago, Biff215 said:

Just because the capacity is “technically” there doesn’t mean they should exploit it

They built it to hold 12,000.  That was the stated design criteria.  It's not exactly exploiting it if they reach that threshold.  

That would be like building a sports stadium with 20,000 seats then just selling 15,000 seats for events.

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

They built it to hold 12,000.  That was the stated design criteria.  It's not exactly exploiting it if they reach that threshold.  

That would be like building a sports stadium with 20,000 seats then just selling 15,000 seats for events.

Fair enough, but a sports stadium is a little different when you typically have a reserved seat. Coco Cay is more like a theme park. They have theoretical capacity, but it doesn’t mean the experience is going to be pleasant when guests move from one area to another unpredictably. I can’t blame Royal for pushing it to those limits, I just don’t want to be there when they do. I love the place far too much already!

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37 minutes ago, Biff215 said:

Fair enough, but a sports stadium is a little different when you typically have a reserved seat. Coco Cay is more like a theme park. They have theoretical capacity, but it doesn’t mean the experience is going to be pleasant when guests move from one area to another unpredictably. I can’t blame Royal for pushing it to those limits, I just don’t want to be there when they do. I love the place far too much already!

I find it less crowded now compared to before Perfect Day.  

When it was a tender destination, visiting on a small ship like Grandeur or Empress it wasn't bad finding a beach lounger.  When you visited on a ship like Anthem it was nearly impossible to find a beach lounger.  The whole place felt crowded.  There wasn't many places to go so everyone was at the beach.  The hammocks were always taken.  The food venues were packed and there was no place to sit, every picnic table near the food was full.    

If running it up to 12k returns to that experience that isn't because of Perfect Day.  It's always been like that and always will be on days with high guest counts present. 

Like an Oasis class ship with seven neighborhoods, Perfect Day has several neighborhoods to distribute people around the island now.  Coco Beach club will help with that to, taking a few hundred from the rest of the island.   South Beach too.  The pool helps a lot, that is the reason why the beach loungers are readily available now.  

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9 hours ago, twangster said:

I find it less crowded now compared to before Perfect Day.  

When it was a tender destination, visiting on a small ship like Grandeur or Empress it wasn't bad finding a beach lounger.  When you visited on a ship like Anthem it was nearly impossible to find a beach lounger.  The whole place felt crowded.  There wasn't many places to go so everyone was at the beach.  The hammocks were always taken.  The food venues were packed and there was no place to sit, every picnic table near the food was full.    

If running it up to 12k returns to that experience that isn't because of Perfect Day.  It's always been like that and always will be on days with high guest counts present. 

Like an Oasis class ship with seven neighborhoods, Perfect Day has several neighborhoods to distribute people around the island now.  Coco Beach club will help with that to, taking a few hundred from the rest of the island.   South Beach too.  The pool helps a lot, that is the reason why the beach loungers are readily available now.  

I didn’t visit before August of this year so I don’t have that comparison. I definitely agree that it’s set up very well like Oasis class ships. I have zero interest in the water park and only spend brief time at the pool, but I realize the importance of those areas in my overall enjoyment of the island. This is where I think Royal bettered what Disney had created at Castaway Cay.

I’m certainly still concerned about what three or four ships will do to the overall experience. You already hear complaints about the lines at the water park even on days when it’s not sold out. They may need some expansion there or ticket prices are going to have to soar over $100 to deal with demand. I also can’t imagine having to go back to tendering some ships while others walk right on.

Fortunately this is all still possible to avoid and I just hope Royal will monitor the busy days closely to see if guests still are having that “perfect day” they’re trying to deliver. 

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38 minutes ago, Biff215 said:

You already hear complaints about the lines at the water park even on days when it’s not sold out

I hear complaints about bars that make you wait while one person ahead has their drink made.  Lines happen at water parks all over the country.  Some people always find something to complain about, even if they have never set foot on CocoCay yet.      

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On 1/17/2020 at 10:07 AM, MicroBeta said:

Holy Cow!!!!!

It turns out that there will be three ships in Coco Cay on June 3rd.  The Oasis, Independence, and Majesty.  I just checked RCI's website for the itineraries and verified they are all going to be there on the 3rd.  We'll be on the Oasis.

That's 11742 to 14026 potential passengers between the three ships.

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We're on the same sailing on Oasis... I hope they change one of the itineraries!

Only crew-center.com shows just the 2 ships... I hope they are right!

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