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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from RWDW1204 in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from AshleyDillo in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Ogilthorpe in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Traveler in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    @twangsterand @Traveler apply world class instructional satire that exceeds that of the Onion and Babylon Bee in a world where their headlines no longer appear absurd.
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    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    You missed a couple...
    7.  All internal walls including cabin walls need to removed so the inside of the ship  is one large space.  In addition all exterior windows need to be removed and all decks above removed so essentially everywhere on the ship is outdoors at all times.  Maska are required while any passenger or crew is indoors including but not limited to indoor spaces that are now outdoor spaces.  
    8. Test cruises will be comprised of inmates from maximum security prisons who have been granted pardons. In the event there are not enough pardoned inmates available cruise lines may petition prison wardens for unpardoned inmates using form 23.76.162.a which will be created in phase three once all test cruises have been completed in phase two.
    9. One doctor for each passenger is required, including a dedicated doctor for each doctor.  Each doctor's doctor shall also have a dedicated doctor.  The doctor's doctor can be another doctor, but the doctor's doctor's doctor can not be a ship's doctor.   Each doctor shall have three nurses.  A ship's doctor can be a doctor for a nurse but a nurse can not be a nurse for a doctor unless they are from the same household.
    10.  Any ship that has completed a test cruise can apply for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise but not after completing a test cruise.  A ship can not apply for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise.  Any ship that applies for a certificate to sail prior to completing a test cruise will be disqualified for a period of three years.  Ships that meet all requirements to apply for a certificate to sail must quarantine for a period of 2 months after receiving their certificate to sail before they can submit an application to quarantine.  Once they have completed the quarantine period they can apply for a waiver to not quarantine unless they already have received a certificate to sail.  
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    DunkelBierJay reacted to Traveler in State of Florida Sues CDC Over Cruise Shut Down   
    Oh , but you know what will happen , yes the CDC will announce the  simple protocols in few days and it will be something like that :
    1. Only people that got two vaccine shots will be allowed to board  beside people that got it from Pfizer , AZ, Moderna or any Chinese/Russian vaccine , your are OK if you got two shots of the JJ vaccine.
    2. People who want to cruise will need to bring a letter from their  doctor proving they never catch  a cold in their life .
    3. The ship Captain name should start with Z and and with X , captains who changed their name on the last 10 years can not participate.
    4. The number of people who are allowed on the ship will be calculate by the fowling simple formula  length of the ship divided by the number of floors multiply by the integral of the ship stern multiply by square root   of -1/2 +   but no more than 10.5 including the crew.
    5. The ship will be divided to 4x4 areas to avoid social contact  , each area will be paint with one of 3 different colors while each area can not have a border with an area that has the same color.
    6. Once the ships will be ready  a one year test can start from Johnston atoll. 
     
     
     
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from 4ensic in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    Florida and Alaska reps are already exerting pressure. We need to get flyover reps aware and involved. Becerra is not going to do anything until these agencies are shamed publicly. It's the language they speak, so I have my duolingo app set on it.
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    DunkelBierJay reacted to JeffB in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    The target audience for your Congressman and Senators is HHS and it's just confirmed yesterday Secretary,  Xavier Becerra The CDC works for him.
    The biggest hurdle is to get CDC Director Walenski to acknowledge facts on the ground instead of a combination of both good and bad science she seems to be relying on along with an unrealistically cautious approach to disease control in the case of SARS2. She needs to be convinced that waiting for additional benefits of strict mitigation measures (like closing ports to cruise ships to prevent transmission of COVID) are more harmful than any benefits that will be gained.
    She's already acknowledged, in the video I linked to elsewhere, that deaths and hospitalizations - the true measure of disease burden - have fallen dramatically since the introduction of vaccines in mid-December.  Given the vaccination requirement to sail that appears to be base line for RCL, given the demonstration of disease mitigation aboard cruise ships that CLIA has articulated and advanced in their news release, given the huge economic impact that a continuation of the cruise ship ban in the US is unnecessary and harmful.
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    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in Call to Action - CLIA Needs Your Help - Tell Congress to Help the Restart   
    https://cruising.org/en/clia-action-center

    TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress to Help Restart the Cruise Industry! Yesterday, CLIA called on the Biden Administration and the CDC to lift the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order (CSO) and allow cruising to be on track to resume sailing in the U.S. by the beginning of July 2021.    Today, we get to work—and we need your help! Please visit the CLIA Action Center to email, call, and/or Tweet at your elected officials in the House and Senate and tell them to urge the Biden Administration to lift the CSO. Our announcement was a big step, and the journey is just beginning. We have our work cut out for us, but the facts are on our side.  • Since the industry’s voluntary suspension one year ago, cruise lines have been prevented from operating in the U.S. even as public health conditions have improved and other sectors have opened or continued to operate throughout the pandemic.    • Over the past eight months, a highly-controlled resumption of cruising has continued in Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific - with nearly 400,000 passengers sailing and additional markets scheduled to come online in the spring and summer.    • The industry’s enhanced public health measures are working, with fewer than 50 confirmed cases of COVID-19 onboard CLIA member cruise line ships since resumption started last summer, based on public reporting.    • More than 300,000 jobs have been lost in the US due to the suspension of cruises. The majority of those impacted are independent business owners or individuals employed by small- to medium-sized businesses.    • Restarting cruises as part of the broader travel industry will provide a much-needed boost to the U.S. economy - with the cruise industry supporting nearly 450,000 American jobs and contributing over $55.5 billion annually, prior to the pandemic.    • An early-July resumption is in line with President Biden’s forecast for when the US will be “closer to normal.”    • There is no such thing as ‘normal’ without cruise ships! The cruise community is a vital part of the travel and tourism economy and should be afforded the same opportunities to begin to recover from the devastating impacts of the pandemic.  It will take every single one of us to be successful. The Time is Now. Will You Join Us? JOIN US!    
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from SPS in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Matt in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    Big duhhhhh...I get in a hurry sometimes....it was posted on Michael Bayley's FB page this morning...the fact that he reposted seems pretty significant to me....I wonder if he participated in drafting it as a member of CLIA. Thanks for the correction.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from JLMoran in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    Big duhhhhh...I get in a hurry sometimes....it was posted on Michael Bayley's FB page this morning...the fact that he reposted seems pretty significant to me....I wonder if he participated in drafting it as a member of CLIA. Thanks for the correction.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from twangster in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    Big duhhhhh...I get in a hurry sometimes....it was posted on Michael Bayley's FB page this morning...the fact that he reposted seems pretty significant to me....I wonder if he participated in drafting it as a member of CLIA. Thanks for the correction.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from BarbieBell in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from jticarruthers in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Neesa in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Snotarni in Michael Bayley's Excellent Letter   
    I saw this was posted on FB earlier this morning...I bet half this forum has seen it already, but I have to say, it's about time for this tone of a letter, and I think it's spot on.
     

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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from Hoski in Adventure of the Seas® heads back to the tropics this summer, unlocking seven-night getaways from Nassau.   
    I'd like for Royal to consider a policy for those who have had it and don't see a need for a vaccine.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from WAAAYTOOO in Adventure of the Seas® heads back to the tropics this summer, unlocking seven-night getaways from Nassau.   
    I'd like for Royal to consider a policy for those who have had it and don't see a need for a vaccine.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from dr martini in Adventure of the Seas® heads back to the tropics this summer, unlocking seven-night getaways from Nassau.   
    I'd like for Royal to consider a policy for those who have had it and don't see a need for a vaccine.
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from PPPJJ-GCVAB in Masks during the whole cruise? Vaccines Required? Limited Ports/Excursions? What would be too much?   
    If the answer to any of the first three questions is yes, then the answer to the 4th for me is yes.
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    DunkelBierJay reacted to twangster in Cozumel -- Embarkation Port?   
    Somewhere around a decade ago on a Carnival ship from San Juan they offered embarkations in Barbados as well as San Juan on that itinerary.  I remember seeing victims guests do their muster as we returned feeling little pain from the Jolly Roger in Barbados.
    P&O has used Barbados as a home port as well.
    Barbados has a long history in this role.  Warehouses are in close proximity to one side of the cruise ship harbor so resupply isn't a challenge.
    I can see the appeal for Royal to move a ship the size of Grandeur with no other clear place to move her.  Barbados could prove to be a smart call as a home port for this ship.    
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    DunkelBierJay got a reaction from SebagoSue in Cozumel -- Embarkation Port?   
    This is the most succinct description of the problem that I have with the CDC too. And, I don't think that the cruise industry is big enough outside of FL and maybe AK for those who love cruising to have any affect on their elected reps with letter writing, calls, etc. The current administration will let them do whatever they want.
    My wish is for their role to be moved to the Coast Guard because they have hands on knowledge of dealing with the environment on a ship and seem to be less susceptible to PR pressure. Medical dictators need to be put in their place as medical advisors.
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