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29 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

Seems like Trump is going to enforce the "12" reasons or whatever it is to travel to Cuba...I wonder what the cruise companies are going to claim for that

 

I mean really....3,000 on the ship aren't going for humanity or education reasons really.....we all know that....so will he turn a blind eye to it and allow Cuba to benefit economically from it......stayed tuned I guess.

It's interesting, when you read the 12 points that qualiy your travel under the general OFAC license, so many of them are incredibly ambiguous.  When I travel to new places I'm generally not going to sit on the beach (obivouly, this depends on the traveler, the destination, etc) - I'm going to meet the locals and learn about the place and their culture.  As such it would seem reasonable that my goals really were around education and support for the Cuban people on my last trip.  

Not arguing for or against, that it isn't a stretch for many.  I guess my real thoguht here is that, all politics aside (and my desires aside), making the 12 categories less ambigous is probably key to enforcement.

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This is what the news site I follow is stating...so looks like status quo for the cruise co for now..

 

Stopping short of a complete turnabout, U.S. President Donald Trump is expected Friday to announce a revised Cuba policy aimed at stopping the flow of U.S. cash to the country's military and security services while maintaining diplomatic relations and allowing U.S. airlines and cruise ships to continue service to the island.

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1 hour ago, Orange Crush said:

I'm seeing some conflicting information, some articles are saying that already booked cruises will be unaffected, but not hearing anything about future itineraries.  Does this policy change mean that the cruise lines won't be able to post new itineraries to Cuba?

If your sailing is in the next 80 or so days there shouldn't be any changes, as no policy has actually been drafted yet.  The Treasury Dpt has 90 days from the announcement to present the details.  After that?  It's really a bit of guesswork based on limited information, but it seems safe to say that cruises will continue - the details (how you'll be required to tour, for example) are sketchy.

http://www.cruisehabit.com/us-update-cuba-policy-roll-back-people-people-trips-cuba-organized-tours-become-requesite

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19 hours ago, Orange Crush said:

I'm seeing some conflicting information, some articles are saying that already booked cruises will be unaffected, but not hearing anything about future itineraries.  Does this policy change mean that the cruise lines won't be able to post new itineraries to Cuba?

RC has said no impact to any itineraries 

 

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Looks like nothing has changed for now which is good for the cruise industry.....as they can continue to charge overinflated prices for trips to Cuba for Americans!

I would never ever pay what they are asking for Cuba cruises...its crazy and so not worth it imho unless you are simply going so you can tell all your friends you are one of the first to go to Cuba.

I have been to Cuba many many times and only because its so cheap for us to go there as Canadians..I would NEVER pay what Americans have to pay to go there...its sooooo no worth it!

I guess all the sayings like "we want what we cant have" and "the grass always looks greener on the other side" etc is true in this cause and the cruise companies are loving it!!

If anything..Cuba should be the cheapest cruise you could take..its not even on par with what you get in Nassau...and a lot of experienced cruises have a disdain for Nassau.

I don't get it.

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No particular interest in cruising Cuba on my part but my boss is excited about the idea and since shes paying, we are off to Cuba (Trump willing).

Trying to decide whether I want to pay $75 on top of the overpriced shore excursion cost to go ashore or just stay on board and chill ... I probably have to pay the $75 either way with my luck ;)

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3 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:

No particular interest in cruising Cuba on my part but my boss is excited about the idea and since shes paying, we are off to Cuba (Trump willing).

Trying to decide whether I want to pay $75 on top of the overpriced shore excursion cost to go ashore or just stay on board and chill ... I probably have to pay the $75 either way with my luck ;)

By the sound of it, you would be happier staying home and keeping the office open!! It's a great opportunity not to be missed

 

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1 hour ago, jticarruthers said:

Trying to decide whether I want to pay $75 on top of the overpriced shore excursion cost to go ashore or just stay on board and chill ... I probably have to pay the $75 either way with my luck ;)

I could be wrong, but I thought everyone gets charged the $75 for a visa automatically.

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On 6/16/2017 at 9:00 AM, monorailmedic said:

It's interesting, when you read the 12 points that qualiy your travel under the general OFAC license, so many of them are incredibly ambiguous.  When I travel to new places I'm generally not going to sit on the beach (obivouly, this depends on the traveler, the destination, etc) - I'm going to meet the locals and learn about the place and their culture.  As such it would seem reasonable that my goals really were around education and support for the Cuban people on my last trip.  

Not arguing for or against, that it isn't a stretch for many.  I guess my real thoguht here is that, all politics aside (and my desires aside), making the 12 categories less ambigous is probably key to enforcement.

Look the cruise line is going to do as it pleases they don't operate under UNITED STATES Law ,they pick and choose what policy's they want to Obie by. As an American citizen at this point in time I would not go to Cuba, especially on a cruise line that is of foreign registery we are not popular in Cuba at this point in time. And if something happens you're on your own!

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3 minutes ago, Chris besanson said:

Look if you want to go to Cuba take a flight and enjoy yourself skip the whole nightmare onboard the empress of the seas trust me.

We rather enjoyed Empress.  What was it you didn't like?

On 6/22/2017 at 3:36 PM, Matt said:

I could be wrong, but I thought everyone gets charged the $75 for a visa automatically.

You have the option.  You could apply for the visa on your own (seems there are better ways to save $25) or sign that you're not getting one as you intend to stay onboard.  You make this declaration at the port on embarkation day.

On 6/22/2017 at 8:24 AM, monctonguy said:

.....as they can continue to charge overinflated prices for trips to Cuba for Americans!

I would never ever pay what they are asking for Cuba cruises...

They'll charge what the market will bear.  Some of the sailings have been quite reasonable.  On our May sailing we paid a bit more than some other RCI sailings, but it came in at about $115/night (including taxes and such) for an inside.  Again, more than some other sailings, but not outrageous.  Demand will inflate price every time.  That in mind, as more ships go and those who have been wanting to go get to there, the supply will increase and the deman slow down - at some point we can expect to see lower prices, though not sure how much lower.

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Demand is driven by people willing to pay it..if your willing to pay it then go ahead. I would never pay a penny extra to go to Cuba more than Mexico or Nassau or anywhere else south.

 

I realize its the forbidden that makes it exciting, but take it from someone who has been there many many times...I only go to Cuba cause its cheaper for us than Mexico or Bahamas.....its nothing different or special or worth more of your hard earned money IMHO.

 

But the travel companies realize that its a cash cow and will see just how gullible people are with their money. It is a business after all. They aren't offering these cruises out of the goodness of their heart so you can enrich your education and experience.

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