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Exactly, an officer from my last cruise on Voyager told me that the plan was for 1 ship in the off season as a result of utilising Lelepa.

The thing here is that there really is no virus other than those in enforced hotel quarantine on return from Overseas/. Winter wont be an issue as long as the philosophy stays the same and borders remain shut. However that is 6 months away. We have full stadiums at sporting events, virtually no limits to capacity at bars and restaurants and no need for masks and our economy is on a steep road to recovery.. In fact aside from general caution and some social distancing measures we are at a reasonable level of Freedom and normality. The problem we have is we cant move ahead until the world catches up. Our main issue for starting up cruising again is the crew. and where they will come from. Rumours are abound of Royal looking to start as soon as possible with some small off season domestic cruise because of the likelihood that Alaska is a write off for 21 but perception is still pretty negative from the outspoken ones in the public,

Sure they have all opened and people have probably caught the virus there as a result. The consequences and perception of catching COVID at the mall is certainly different than on a cruise ship.

The ONLY reason?

We get your point but who is going to be cruising from these other countries. How can international travel involving the USA even be considered when there is no clear control of COVID. Over 200k cases again today, there is no chance of cruising until these numbers drop significantly. Freedom of movement unfortunately is this viruses biggest ally.

Deluxe plus Zoom is cheaper than Deluxe by itself on one cruise because they are adding gratuities to deluxe but not zoom/deluxe.

They can boycott all they like but where are they going to get passengers from. The USA is still the hub of the virus just as it has been for the last 6 months.

Exactly, The US will have enough of their own.

And its not a money making enterprise. The efficacy, on 50% first dose 100% 2nd is 90%. Pretty much the same as the others. I would trust an organisation doing it for the good of humanity over their bottom line.

They are starting out of a foreign port next week. Singapore.

They open and close as needed. Sofa during day and make up into bed at night.

http://agent.royalcaribbean.se/?brandId=brand2&elementId=element2 Sorry my mistake though I did.

http://agent.royalcaribbean.se/?brandId=brand2&elementId=element2 The link to the spreadsheet is on this page.

Here is a link to the industry site. The spreadsheet can be accessed on this page.

The spreadsheet for the Black Friday sale has all Indy sailings that were 8 days as 7 days.

http://agent.royalcaribbean.se/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pre-Cruise-Planner-sale.pdf Had a look at the spreadsheet, most deluxe 40% off onboard price and refreshment 45%

From the USA anyway. Still hope out there in other places.

Quantum is hardly a test point when it comes to sailing from the USA. Yesterday Singapore 5 new cases none of which were locally transmitted (imported and in quarantine) USA 160K. Singapore residents only allowed. No Ports. There is no test of the system until Covid is detected on board.

Pretty hard to find a country that want to risk their health system to allow people in. The travel advisory is at level 3 ( reconsider travel) or higher for all countries. I am not worried about my own health but everyone I come in contact with.

Yes true, but the other factor here is the positives started from a group of Americans who travelled to Barbados to board. Why any country would allow this to happen is beyond me. 180K cases in one day and growing. Mask policy doesnt seem to be working the only thing that seems to is the suppression of movement and social interaction.

7 now positive.

Latest update an American family who boarded in Barbados. 5 of the 6 currently positive and 1 with antibodies.

How would wearing a mask change anything. The virus had to board the boat in the first place. I have been following a couple of bloggers on facebook on the cruise who have said there are 5 members of the one group positive. Were not on the original departure from the UK but joined in Barbados.

Yes, and to me it seems the number one inhibitor to controlling the virus is freedom of movement. Lockdowns work in controlling the virus but cripple the economy at the same time. Plus the greater opposition to the lockdowns result in a lockdown that lasts longer and is less effective. Who knows where the balance needs to be.

While i agree, the nfl and other otganisations are taking precautions and still getting cases. The problem is the amount of virus in the general community has not been reduced in the USA. Such a risk vs reward situation for the cruise lines.