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Who's excited? Booking Inaugural for sure! Bring on 2022!
Photo Credit : Pascal Collin Photography

 
 

I don't think this is much of a problem. None of the Australia season will be going ahead anyways due to Australian restrictions.

Yeah I realise the colour is the same, nothing worse than that rusty look! 🙂
 

Yeah I realise the colour is the same, nothing worse than that rusty look! 🙂
 

Not really sure. Different fleet size is definitely a factor but so is median age.  Much of Carnival's fleet is smaller and older.  
With the introduction of mega sized ships Royal grew more efficient in terms of revenue per passenger carried.  Smaller fleet but with bigger ships, Royal has been achieving better revenue performance on a relative basis.  For every mega ship Royal has at sea, Carnival needs somewhere between two to three ships to carry the same numbers, passengers and revenue.
Now remove the guests and move into a mode of maintaining and operating a fleet at reduced crew levels.  That's still a Captain per ship, a senior bridge crew per ship,  marine departments per ship, security teams per ship.  Dock fees, fuel minimums, operating certificates, etc. all on a per ship basis.  The highest paid crew positions are still required while many of the lowest paid positions have been sent home. 
The cost to maintain a smaller ship during these times may be slightly lower that the cost to maintain a mega sized ship but at absolute minimums there is a floor that is reached, a minimum operating cost that any ship requires regardless of size.  That extra two to three ships per million in passenger revenue starts to bite them very hard. 
There are also fewer brands so fewer high priced executive teams running each brand.   Royal Caribbean International, the flagship brand operates around the world.  Carnival as in the red whale tail brand that is the flagship primarily operates only in North America.  Carnival Australia is a completely different organization from a corporate structure perspective sharing only the name and whale tail, it's almost like yet another Carnival brand.  For other regions Carnival operates another brand such as P&O, AIDA, Costa for example.  Like ships there are floor costs to operate each brand using the corporate structure that Carnival uses.   For each brand there are presidents and senior vice presidents, etc. - the highest priced positions.
I also think corporate culture starts to creep in as a factor which underlie the revenue performance and revenue efficiency that was experienced during the good times in the decades leading up to this point.  That's hard to quantify in exact numbers.  During the good times the cost of Carnival's corporate culture and inefficiency was masked by the fists full of dollars coming in.  Stripped of passenger revenue and forced to operate at minimums we see it more plainly.   

Looks like a fun start to a holiday... 

Looks like a fun start to a holiday... 

Wonder is now 2022. Been following the build.. if there is a vaccine by 2022 I would definitely consider cancelling Odyssey and booking this instead. Easier to get to China than Florida from this side of the world as well.

Wonder is now 2022. Been following the build.. if there is a vaccine by 2022 I would definitely consider cancelling Odyssey and booking this instead. Easier to get to China than Florida from this side of the world as well.

Wonder is now 2022. Been following the build.. if there is a vaccine by 2022 I would definitely consider cancelling Odyssey and booking this instead. Easier to get to China than Florida from this side of the world as well.

Is two layers of protection between me and you not better than one?

The problem in Melbourne is it's impossible to manage when people can't follow the rules. Infected people are knowingly out in the community spreading the virus even though they should have been isolating at home. We had 800 infected people not at home when checked on by police. No choice but to lock everyone up before the numbers get too big to control.
The latest outbreak has been traced back to returning overseas passengers hotel quarantine. The security guards employed to make sure guests didn't leave until completing their 14 days quarantine were sleeping with some of the return passengers who turned out to be infected. The guards then passed it on the other people in the community, and now here we are. This is a true story.. I am not even joking! 🤦‍♂️

Is two layers of protection between me and you not better than one?

I hear the word freedom going around a lot.. but I don't consider someone in the US any more free than I am in Australia under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances.
 
Here are the options:
Locked up for 6 weeks - virus can be significantly reduced, life can go back to normal.
OR
Freedom - virus continues to spread and get worse, life remains as it is now.
 
Which would you choose?

I hear the word freedom going around a lot.. but I don't consider someone in the US any more free than I am in Australia under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances.
 
Here are the options:
Locked up for 6 weeks - virus can be significantly reduced, life can go back to normal.
OR
Freedom - virus continues to spread and get worse, life remains as it is now.
 
Which would you choose?

I hear the word freedom going around a lot.. but I don't consider someone in the US any more free than I am in Australia under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances.
 
Here are the options:
Locked up for 6 weeks - virus can be significantly reduced, life can go back to normal.
OR
Freedom - virus continues to spread and get worse, life remains as it is now.
 
Which would you choose?

I hear the word freedom going around a lot.. but I don't consider someone in the US any more free than I am in Australia under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances.
 
Here are the options:
Locked up for 6 weeks - virus can be significantly reduced, life can go back to normal.
OR
Freedom - virus continues to spread and get worse, life remains as it is now.
 
Which would you choose?

This is the result of people who can't follow the rules. When police have been visiting people who have the virus to make sure they are staying home it's been found 1 in 4 are not there. They are out in the community spreading it.
The numbers while small compared to US are not reducing, so no option but to go full lock down. For the next 6 weeks, if you are caught out of your home and you don't have a valid excuse as described above it's an instant $1652 fine.
From tomorrow most business expect for supermarkets, pharmacies, healthcare and petrol stations will be told to close. If you can't work from home you don't go to work. 
Another thing to remember is that we are in winter down here, there seems to be some suggestion that the virus could spread more easily in colder temps. As you probably know it gets pretty hot here and it's potentially why we saw very little numbers in the first wave of the virus compared to this much worse second wave. Interestingly at the same time this years flu season numbers have dropped by 99% due to people social distancing.
Anyways, I guess we'll see how the next 6 weeks go! Pretty sure the 2020/21 Australian cruise season won't go ahead as planned so it doesn't really matter I guess. Need that damn vaccine!

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭
 

So what's next? Kangaroos on the loose in Fort Lauderdale?

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭
 

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭
 

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭
 

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭
 

It's really going to depend on the region and what restrictions governments put in place. 
You guys have 3.5 million cases and can go to Disneyland. 
We have 10,000 and can't leave the house! 😭