Casino Royale

[aonvision7]

Just got back from Freedom and thought I would share some info that I was looking for before I left.

Black Jack - Most of the games were 6/5.  They had one 3/2 table that they would open if you played a minimum of $25.  I was the only one ever playing.

3 card poker table was generally full

Craps was almost always empty.  The min was $5 and the max was $300 or $360 on the 6/8 for payout of $420.  They had some bad rules like both dice have to always touch the back wall or the roll didnt count.  Also no setting of the dice were allowed.  A $5 bet allowed you to take 1x odds, $25 got 2x and $50 allowed for 3/4/5x.  I think the table was empty because no one liked the odds limits. 

Craps typically didnt open up until at least 7pm while the slots or 6/5 black was open earlier.

Prior to the last night I had earned 1,700 points.  I'm not sure what I ended up at but I had the certificate for the free balcony sailing and around $650 comped from my bill.

 

[JLMoran]

6 hours ago, aonvision7 said:

Craps was almost always empty.  The min was $5 and the max was $300 or $360 on the 6/8 for payout of $420.  They had some bad rules like both dice have to always touch the back wall or the roll didnt count.  Also no setting of the dice were allowed.  A $5 bet allowed you to take 1x odds, $25 got 2x and $50 allowed for 3/4/5x.  I think the table was empty because no one liked the odds limits. 

That's interesting with the rules you cite. I was on Freedom in April and only ever visited the craps table, and I saw people there regularly set up the dice so they showed whatever pips the shooter felt was the "lucky" or "right" way before throwing. I also saw a couple of times where I or someone else only had one die touch the back wall and both the pit boss and the stick man were totally fine with it. So either they've changed the rules in the last four months or you just got really unlucky with the crew on board for your sailing.

And the table on my sailing was almost always decently full after the first or maybe second night. I would stop by after dinner most nights (around 9:30 or 10:00 PM after late-seating dinner), and there were at most two or three open spots for new shooters; a couple of times I actually had to wait until someone cashed out. Always saw 2 or 3 "regulars" there every time I stopped by as well. I'm guessing your table staff and their new rules may have had a chilling effect, especially with the 1x odds.

7 hours ago, aonvision7 said:

Craps typically didnt open up until at least 7pm while the slots or 6/5 black was open earlier.

I think it was the same on my sailing; I had a couple of times where I walked through the casino on my way to something else in the late afternoon / early evening, and I'd see all the poker tables and roulette table had staff sitting at them, but the craps table was unstaffed. I think that may in part be that fewer people know that game and get intimidated by it, so why "waste" a staffer at the table when they know the regulars and people who actually want to play will come by after dinner? Unlike poker or black jack, craps is a bit more social and playing solo, at least to me, just feels weird.

[Matt]

9 hours ago, aonvision7 said:

I think the table was empty because no one liked the odds limits. 

That or the game has a steep learning curve  I can never figure it out

[Rose City Cruiser]

15 hours ago, aonvision7 said:

They had some bad rules like both dice have to always touch the back wall or the roll didnt count.  Also no setting of the dice were allowed.

There must have been a string of hot rollers the previous night/sailing.  It's under the House discretion whether to enforce those rules. 

[WhiteSoxFan]

6 hours ago, Matt said:

That or the game has a steep learning curve  I can never figure it out

Lol.  Craps isn't that hard, just a lot of information to digest.  It also moves pretty quickly which makes it difficult for the beginner.  You can eliminate half the bets on the table if you avoid the bets with the biggest house advantage (hard ways, field, etc.)  

[michelle]

yep agree with @Matt have no idea how to play craps but love roulette -

 

[whitsmom]

On 9/8/2018 at 3:49 PM, michelle said:

yep agree with @Matt have no idea how to play craps but love roulette -

 

Me too!  I even took a class in Vegas years ago to try and learn Craps and I still couldn't figure it out totally.  I stick to Roulette!