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I am inclined to agree with monctonguy  I think there is an element of spin.  The next amplification is not commencing till 2022 ,also the new class of cruise ships to be powered by liquefied natural gas and fuel cell tech will soon be here and Voyager was built in 1999,it is  hardly an enlightened economic decision to throw more money into an aging ship ..The NSW govt is near making a decision on building another port to accommodate  more cruises at Botany Bay in Sydney so I can foresee a change in plans to bring bigger ships to Australia..but that is a long way away and unfortunately I fear the cruisers down under will have to deal with second best for some time yet 😔

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"I think you will find Voyager of the Seas looking amazing when she returns to Sydney"

 

This is the BS spin.....couple name changes to things and 72 new cabins.......she's coming back with a bunch of stuff taken out and cabins added..so more people and less space and things to do...why would this be beautiful or answer the questions/concerns that the person had?

 

Sure..in 2.5 years there will be some updates to her apparently....but to try and make adding cabins and taking away space as beautiful is bit of a stretch and if you fall for that, a little gullible.

 

Don't get me wrong.....I love Royal and their ships...I just tend to have a very critical and negative views of CEO's and companies when they try to tell you what  they think you want to hear, but don't really..or try to sell you on something that benefit's them and not you as the customer. Almost all companies do it at some point in time.

 

That being said..still  Loyal to Royal here.....they offer a superior experience and product over other cruise lines IMHO.

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On 9/26/2019 at 9:53 AM, monctonguy said:

"I think you will find Voyager of the Seas looking amazing when she returns to Sydney"

 

This is the BS spin.....couple name changes to things and 72 new cabins.......she's coming back with a bunch of stuff taken out and cabins added..so more people and less space and things to do...why would this be beautiful or answer the questions/concerns that the person had?

 

Sure..in 2.5 years there will be some updates to her apparently....but to try and make adding cabins and taking away space as beautiful is bit of a stretch and if you fall for that, a little gullible.

Sure, there's some element of spin here; however, it appear to me, a Royal blunder or miscalculation was made concerning the viable demand for the Asian market, over the delight of Australia, at that time, as was admitted to. Removing or reducing certain venues & adding more cabins, to appease the Asian market is not surprising to me...every Western Corporation is trying to solidify a strong foothold in that market, to the detriment of other more established markets. So, work had already been committed to, via contracts; but, the next available opening for Amping this much like its sister ships is 2.5 years away, in 2022 unfortunately. An expensive blunder removing & refitting a ship twice, in such a short period of time; but, I do find his answer to be fairly forthcoming.

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On 9/27/2019 at 12:35 AM, Big Tule said:

The NSW govt is near making a decision on building another port to accommodate  more cruises at Botany Bay in Sydney so I can foresee a change in plans to bring bigger ships to Australia..but that is a long way away and unfortunately I fear the cruisers down under will have to deal with second best for some time yet 😔

and with the new port being built in Brisbane, it will ensure more larger ships come down here too!

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Yeah..I hear that paint is expensive........I guess if it comes down to more things and spaces for customers..or more cabins to sell to pay for the paint..we know what wins out..lol

 

Really..blue hull?....Not impressed....looks cheap....one thing I liked about Royal is how white their ships are...very classy and regal looking...guess they are going the way of Celebrity....I hope they don't get to the point of looking like NCL ships..

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2 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

Yeah..I hear that paint is expensive........I guess if it comes down to more things and spaces for customers..or more cabins to sell to pay for the paint..we know what wins out..lol

 

Really..blue hull?....Not impressed....looks cheap....one thing I liked about Royal is how white their ships are...very classy and regal looking...guess they are going the way of Celebrity....I hope they don't get to the point of looking like NCL ships..

It’s not that kind of blue. It’s really light, just to match the Quantum class and Oasis class ships.

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18 hours ago, Shanenz84 said:

Looks like a first for the Voyager Class, Voyager of the Seas has been painted with a blue hull! Check out the FB page Singapore Cruise Society for the pic! 

Could this be another move to do with the Asian market? If all the ships stationed there are Quantum class and have a blue hull, then this would aid them in presenting a more uniform fleet to the Asian market, and have Voyager stand out less from the other ships. 

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Also, someone posted a letter from Royal in the Singapore cruise society FB page explaining that their April 21st 2021 cruise on voyager has been cancelled because they want to start the dry dock earlier than was previously scheduled. 

So it does indeed look like they are rectifying their mistake with regards to cancelling the full amplification.  

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21 hours ago, Vanessa77 said:

Could this be another move to do with the Asian market? If all the ships stationed there are Quantum class and have a blue hull, then this would aid them in presenting a more uniform fleet to the Asian market, and have Voyager stand out less from the other ships. 

And with that I wonder if they’ll paint the ship name in the new style font (like on QN and OA class) on the hull?

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On 9/26/2019 at 9:25 AM, Matt said:

I think this is a fair and honest explanation. They thought they were going to send Voyager to Asia, and planned the refurb for that market. As it turns out, they will change and a new refurb will come later.

While that doesn't make the reality better in the short term, it does confirm that RC is not actively looking to ignore/overlook the Australian cruise market.  Gavin didn't dress up the response with marketing slogans and confusing terminology. He shared a pretty insightful look into what they were thinking, and what the plans are now.

I agree with Matt assessment of the explanation

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2 hours ago, Vanessa77 said:

Also, someone posted a letter from Royal in the Singapore cruise society FB page explaining that their April 21st 2021 cruise on voyager has been cancelled because they want to start the dry dock earlier than was previously scheduled. 

So it does indeed look like they are rectifying their mistake with regards to cancelling the full amplification.  

Someone also on there saying that on the final sailing that some venues had been closed and they we're already pulling them apart. They weren't very happy.

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Myself and my wife have cruised with many lines I must say since our first cruise with Royal Caribbean we are now Royal Loyal next cruise Syd/Sing in April 2020 . We live in the west and to join a cruise we need to air travel to the east coast with air travel adding approx $1000 plus accomodation

Would it be viable for RCC to do a twice round  Australia with a bali stop if necessary giving the option of Syd/Syd , Bris/Bris, Darwin/Darwin, Freo/Freo, Adel/Adel, Mel/Mel. My opinion the Australian public would book this type of cruise you could add Tasmania or NZ if viable .

I would appreciate your feedback on better servicing the Australian market.

Regards Ian Mountford 

 

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i was doing some reading about the Voyager amplification and while it doesnt have all the features we were hoping for, they seem to be giving the staterooms a decent overhaul as part of the works.

I read an article (link below) that says:

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Other interesting facts and figures on Voyager’s revamp include

  • 2,174 mattresses and 1,643 TVs changed in guest staterooms
  • 3,200 bed frames removed
  • 10,600 liters of paint used to repaint the ship
  • 10,000 pounds of laundry sent out weekly
  • 5,418 pieces of furniture replaced
  • 3,119 phones replaced in staterooms
  • A total of 138,196.85 man hours spent on dry dock construction

Source: https://cruisepassenger.com.au/the-first-look-inside-royal-caribbeans-revamped-voyager-of-the-seas/

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9 hours ago, Phillo said:

i was doing some reading about the Voyager amplification and while it doesnt have all the features we were hoping for, they seem to be giving the staterooms a decent overhaul as part of the works.

I read an article (link below) that says:

Source: https://cruisepassenger.com.au/the-first-look-inside-royal-caribbeans-revamped-voyager-of-the-seas/

3,119 phones replaced in staterooms

Does some cabins have more than one phone? Because there are only 1643 cabins. 

2,174 mattresses and 1,643 TVs changed in guest staterooms

I thought that almost all cabins had at least 2 mattresses, it seems that they are not changing them all

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8 hours ago, carlosalonsor said:

3,119 phones replaced in staterooms

Does some cabins have more than one phone? Because there are only 1643 cabins. 

2,174 mattresses and 1,643 TVs changed in guest staterooms

I thought that almost all cabins had at least 2 mattresses, it seems that they are not changing them all

I would think they are changing the entire phone system.  Probably moving to a VOIP PBX type thing.

As for mattresses.  Thats a fair call.  Who knows.... they might not be including sofa beds (in the calculation).

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My husband and I have been cruising 1-2 (and sometimes 3x a year) for years and mostly on Royal.   I imagine it is hard to keep updating the older ships as they continue to crank out these newer and bigger ships every year!    Our favorite is the Oasis Class because there is so much more to do on board and so many dining choices as well.   As I read the disappointing comments from some of you about Voyager's Amp (or lack there of), here's a thought.....you might want to look at itineraries on Celebrity.  We actually went on Celebrity Equinox in the Eastern Caribbean in October (hadn't been on Celebrity in 10 years so we decided to try it because they had a great itinerary for us) and we really enjoyed it!  The ship is really pretty, service was exceptional and food was outstanding no matter where we ate.  We liked it so much we went again just 2 weeks ago and booked 2 more on Celebrity including their new Apex ship.   I know they have Australian Itineraries, so it might be worth a look.   The good news is that your Royal Caribbean Crown and Anchor level will be recognized at the same level on Celebrity's Captain's Club.   The points however do not transfer; they stay with each line.   I also think they are geared more to a relaxing, quieter cruise vacation....so no rock climbing, skating, waterslides, etc.  If you are traveling with a lot of children, you may want to stick with Royal.   Like Royal, they also have updated a lot of their fleet so definitely take a look at them.....at least it is an option for you!  Cheers and happy sailing!

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