Brogan

USA gets a convoluted, outdated, impossible CSO.
 
UK get a traffic light system

I agree with you completely. I feel that if the UK government introduce some form of covid passport, which could vaccinated, a negative pcr test or positive for the virus within the last 6 months then I think it would make sense for Royal and other cruise lines for that matter to use those rather than having their own separate requirements. A cruise ship should be no different then a hotel or theme park and I guarantee they won’t be saying you have to be fully vaccinated for those things. Especially how like you said, they will just be for Brits sailing to British ports and likely still wearing masks. I think forcing everyone to have had both doses of the vaccine may be a bit over the top in my opinion when such a large percentage of the population, or certainly Royals target market won’t have been able to get both doses. I suppose we will see though when they actually announce all there requirements nearer the time of sailing.

@Brogan - here in the UK it's interesting for various reasons:
Gove & Boris have indicated that "vaccine passports" will involve a combination of options (vacinnation, negative pcr test, or positive for covid within last 6 months).  We will need to wait to see if apps are able/allowed to distinguish between the 3 options (and whether there's a difference between domestic or international use). Government ministers have also indicated that vaccine passports may not be implemented until September time (after adult population has been fully vaccinated, making passports a mute issue potentially). Stage 4 of the Roadmap out of lockdown (currently slated for 21st June) will lift lockdown, allow all UK residents to move about the country as they please, etc... Royal is sailing the Anthem around British waters/ports from July and will only allow UK residents onboard.  So, why would vaccine passports be required? When there is no more lockdown? Surely, negative pcr test would suffice? I think if mask wearing is also required onboard, a negative pcr test should be enough.  If everyone is mandated to be fully vaccinated then I think mask wearing should be ditched.  And yes it would be "fair" to wait for everyone to be vaccinated (more "polite" than fair).  But it would also be "fair" to let those that are fully vaccinated to get going asap so they can let businesses crank back up (and be the guinea pigs for everything). We'll all be back cruising before we know it, the more we wait,  the more we long to return, the more we enjoy it when it does finally happen. 

I hope you are right, I would hate to have to cancel both my cruises because In have only had one dose of vaccine. I think at least in the UK Royal may have to change that as a requirement because right now they are saying that people aged 18-30 may not be offered a first dose until end of July, then they will be forced to wait 11-12 weeks for second dose. That’s a very large proportion of their demographic who can’t take these cruises under those restrictions, I think they may be forced to make a change.

I don't think this something to get worked up about, at least not yet. I doubt this will happen to be honest and its not in the works Government wise. Private business may require some kind of proof at lease until Covid is such a non story and the disease is down to near nothing.

I had the same thought about faking the cards. I personally also think vaccine passports are a good idea however I do believe that they shouldn’t be introduced until the vast majority of people have been offered a vaccine. I’m in the UK so will be different in the US but there’s a chance I won’t be offered a first dose until the end of July and in the UK they are saying three months between doses so that basically means I cannot cruise at all this summer. Despite that I’ve booked two of the anthem cruises out of Southampton and am just praying I’m somehow vaccinated in time. I just don’t see how it’s fair to see you have to be vaccinated when in the UK at least only over 40s will have had both doses by the time they sail in July 

So will people that don't get the vaccine be able to get cash in lieu of FCC? Requiring vaccines is a substantial change in policy and I'm sure that many would not have purchased cruises had we known that a vaccine was required.

To be clear, Royal Caribbean hasn't said. It is likely going to be part of the many new protocols and rules they will announce about 30 days before first sailing

The majority of cruise ships Royal has announced to be sailing this summer, as of right now are saying that they require guests to be vaccinated. Does anyone have any idea how Royal Caribbean will verify you have been vaccinated?

BOOKED! Booked a second cruise on Anthem, was going to book a b2b, however the dates and prices didnt work so I have also booked 23rd August 2021 as well. Can’t wait to cruise on the beautiful Anthem of the Seas!

BOOKED! Booked a second cruise on Anthem, was going to book a b2b, however the dates and prices didnt work so I have also booked 23rd August 2021 as well. Can’t wait to cruise on the beautiful Anthem of the Seas!

BOOKED! 1st August 6 night British Isles on Anthem of the Seas. I am PRAYING I am vaccinated in time. Seems like the vaccine rollout is stuttering here in the UK so maybe they’ll change the requirements of two vaccine doses.

Well RCI just allowed b2b on July 25th and August 1st sailing ?.  I will need the vaccine and my 2 nieces will need a negative pcr test (within 5 days of sailing), but Royal confirmed that if I "forget" to get the tests done then they will provide the test free of charge at the port (would just delay boarding for a couple of hours whilst you wait in  the queue to be swabbed and for results to be returned).
Still eyeing up Cyprus for later on in the year though...

BOOKED! 1st August 6 night British Isles on Anthem of the Seas. I am PRAYING I am vaccinated in time. Seems like the vaccine rollout is stuttering here in the UK so maybe they’ll change the requirements of two vaccine doses.

To everyone from the UK, these are the sailings of Anthem of the Seas this summer from Southampton starting July 7th, they go on sale 7th April 2021 3:00pm BST.
• 7 July 2021 | 4 nights | Southampton Ocean Getaway
• 11 July 2021 | 4 nights | Southampton Ocean Getaway
• 15 July 2021 | 5 nights | Southampton  - Day at Sea - – Belfast – Kirkwall – Day at Sea - Southampton
• 20 July 2021 | 5 nights | Southampton – Day at Sea – Glasgow (Greenock)  – Kirkwall – Day at Sea - Southampton
• 25 July 2021 | 7 nights | Southampton – Day at Sea – Belfast – Day at Sea – Day at Sea – Kirkwall – Day at Sea - Southampton
• 1 August 2021 | 6 nights | Southampton - Day at Sea - Day at Sea - Belfast - Liverpool - Day at Sea - Southampton
• 7 August 2021 | 8 nights | Southampton - Day at Sea - Kirkwall - Day at Sea - Liverpool - Belfast - Glasgow (Greenock) - Day at Sea - Southampton
• 15 August 2021 | 8 nights | Southampton - Day at Sea - Inverness - Kirkwall - Day at Sea - Liverpool - Glasgow (Greenock) - Day at Sea - Southampton
• 23 August 2021 | 6 nights | Southampton - Day at Sea - Day at Sea - Liverpool - Belfast - Day at Sea - Southampton
• 29 August 2021 | 7 nights | Southampton - Day at Sea - Belfast - Day at Sea - Day at Sea - Liverpool - Day at sea - Southampton

I was just about to ask about the health warning...
However, have they missed it... Once lockdown is fully lifted in the UK (circa June 21st) then we will be allowed to travel anywhere in the UK...Anthem is only doing UK itineraries for UK residents only.... technically they won't need vaccinations or negative tests...‽

I'm about to try and book a back2back on Anthem...wish me luck

@em.down.the.rabbit.hole @Mike.s
Another thing thats interesting is that when booking a Jewel sailing it comes with a warning saying you must be vaccinated to sail on that cruise however no such warning appears when booking one of the Anthem sailings. Wonder if this means anything.

Yeah I saw that, I think I’m more interested in the bigger ship of Anthem though, although Jewel is tempting.

Ok that took 25mins to get through...
They were unable to book 25th July as system broken on dining options ...
Also advised they are not doing back2back cruises because of the kids requiring negative PCR tests, and even though you can purchase the 2 cruises separately, it's in the t&c's...not that they're making that clear to anyone!!!
They also only had all the info dropped on them this morning - how organised is Royal, NOT!!!
So not booked yet, but wanting 25th July

@Brogan @Mike.s Anthem on sail already...
Will let you know how long I have to wait on the phone when I finally get through...I have a discount card that doesn't work on the website arghhh.  Wish me luck ?

I think it's not to bad, compare it to a week on Anthem in October, a balcony is £1319. The Celebrity price includes drinks, wi-fi and gratuity. RC is always expensive out of Southampton.

With those types of prices I'll be booking a b2b on the 7 nighter on 25th July and the 6 nighter on 1st August...?

Pricing isn’t officially public yet, only dates and itineraries. Pricing will be confirmed on Wednesday when the sailings are available to book. I know what you mean I am very keen to find out the prices too. According to a few different people Ive spoken to (my travel agent and also a few different people on Facebook) the prices seem to range from £400 to £700 per person for the lowest price room depending on length of cruise. This to me is very reasonable and a lot less than Celebrity’s pricing, Celebrity do have an all inclusive model though so obviously will be more expensive.

So these dates were released by various travel agencies, they are also showing on the Royal Caribbean app. I have not seen any Jewel of the Seas dates yet.