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On 7/28/2022 at 7:22 AM, LLW2683 said:

We were scheduled to take a cruise in April 2020 and it was cancelled due to the pandemic.  We are now venturing back to our love of cruises next month but still worry about COVID.  Can any recent travelers provide info on mask wearing amongst passengers?  I'm interested in knowing if my group of 4 will be the only ones in masks or if a good amount of cruisers still choose to wear them in indoor spaces and at events?  Thanks so much!

No one is going to blink twice if you're wearing a mask, do whatever makes you comfortable and have a great time!

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I wear a mask on board, off board most of the time.  I "break the ice" if getting looks that I have really bad teeth (not that I do), this makes me personally feel a bit safer.  Up to date on the shots (my choice), and I know people that are sick/ and or had covid that have either not been vaccinated or have been vaccinated - finally something that will not/does not discriminant. 

 

We have cut way back on travel and again our choice so far we are not sick and not had covid, and hopefully will stay that way.

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17 minutes ago, sammy79 said:

Just got back last week. We wore masks on the plane but not on the cruise. Maybe 10% wore masks. At this point, no one cares if you do or not. Enjoy your vacation!

That's one thing that's unique about the cruise demographic.  We all have our opinions on things but on board everyone is a best friend.  Well except for chair hogs.

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10 hours ago, kennzers said:

Does anyone know if there will be "Vaccinated only" spots on the ship now that maybe up to 20% unvaccinated passengers will be allowed on? Or separate sea pass cards reflecting as much?

While we don't yet know the details of the new policy that will be announced this week, I wouldn't expect vaccinated vs unvaccinated areas. They did away with that concept months ago.

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1 hour ago, smokeybandit said:

I think people are reading too deep into the 20% thing. It sounds like a mere guideline or target number than a hard and fast requirement.  With ships already above 90, 80% seems a pretty easy number anyway to not have to turn anyone away

Since we're waiting on the update that will surely correct what I'm about to post, I'll say this purely for the sake of discussion.

The 20% (or whatever percentage it happens to be) includes unvaccinated kids under 12, which were already sailing at least 10%, right? I think that's the concern with an overrun of too many unvaccinated adults AND younger children competing for the space.

Again, I have no idea if that scenario is true at all. But I suspect it's what some people are alluding to with respect to being turned away.

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19 minutes ago, Matt said:

Since we're waiting on the update that will surely correct what I'm about to post, I'll say this purely for the sake of discussion.

The 20% (or whatever percentage it happens to be) includes unvaccinated kids under 12, which were already sailing at least 10%, right? I think that's the concern with an overrun of too many unvaccinated adults AND younger children competing for the space.

Again, I have no idea if that scenario is true at all. But I suspect it's what some people are alluding to with respect to being turned away.

Yes, I respect the concerns with the new thresholds.  I just don't think it will be an issue for the large majority of cruises. 

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55 minutes ago, Morganno said:

Oh which part isn't true? 

 

I'm only going to state this once and then I'm tagging out, as I don't wish things to devolve: vaccines do not create a impermeable bubble around the person vaccinated. They simply make any COVID-based illness one contracts potentially less severe, in part through reducing viral load because one's immune system recognizes and therefore it more efficient combatting the virus.

Reduced viral load also reduces transmission of the virus. Simply: an unvaccinated person who is carrying the virus carries it longer; deeper in their respiratory system; sheds more viral particles; and has a greater incidence of viral particles to shed. This includes to fully vaccinated passengers, who can then contract a potentially milder form of the disease.  However, COVID-19 *REGARDLESS OF SEVERITY* has shown a significant chance of follow-on issues including so-called "Long COVID" and other concerns. ("Significant" in the statistical meaning, e.g., a 2.5 to 5 percent incidence of severe long-term effects that increases further with each diagnosis).

Each person should consider their own risk factors and health concerns - as well as those around them - to determine what if any decisions they make regarding exposure. Cruise if you want to - I am, masked up where possible. But don't put out there "it's not harmful" because that is not true.  

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5 hours ago, Morganno said:

Unvaccinated people pose no risk to those vaccinated apart from an increased chance of having to turn the ship around due to a medical emergency. This is why cruise lines have the policy in place. 

I agree, I think the cruiselines main concern right now overloading their medical crew or having someone seriously ill and having to change the whole ships plans.  Which is why I think they will stick to a certain % and lower it over time as they see medical staff not overloaded.

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14 hours ago, Riley said:

I'm only going to state this once and then I'm tagging out, as I don't wish things to devolve: vaccines do not create a impermeable bubble around the person vaccinated. They simply make any COVID-based illness one contracts potentially less severe, in part through reducing viral load because one's immune system recognizes and therefore it more efficient combatting the virus.

Reduced viral load also reduces transmission of the virus. Simply: an unvaccinated person who is carrying the virus carries it longer; deeper in their respiratory system; sheds more viral particles; and has a greater incidence of viral particles to shed. This includes to fully vaccinated passengers, who can then contract a potentially milder form of the disease.  However, COVID-19 *REGARDLESS OF SEVERITY* has shown a significant chance of follow-on issues including so-called "Long COVID" and other concerns. ("Significant" in the statistical meaning, e.g., a 2.5 to 5 percent incidence of severe long-term effects that increases further with each diagnosis).

Each person should consider their own risk factors and health concerns - as well as those around them - to determine what if any decisions they make regarding exposure. Cruise if you want to - I am, masked up where possible. But don't put out there "it's not harmful" because that is not true.  

Thanks for the helpful reminder.

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12 hours ago, GatorCruiser said:

I would love to know the numbers on how many pre cruise tests are positive and lead to one canceling their cruise. How many cases do the pre cruise Covid tests catch and prevent from boarding? 

When we sailed on Azamara Quest last Dec (from Miami), we had 2 guests tap out at the terminal pre-test. I think only 368 or so sailed at that time.     (At that time, Azamara was testing everyone just prior to boarding).  By the end of the 15 day cruise, there were around 19 guests who where infected and in quarantine cabins.  The Capt was good at keeping everyone informed of "the numbers".  Sailed Celeb and RCL since then and no idea how many have tapped out prior to leaving.

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