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Thank you for the short and sweet answer! what a great way to accumulate C&A points towards diamond!
 

Thank you for the short and sweet answer! what a great way to accumulate C&A points towards diamond!
 

1.  Yes
2.  Yes
3. No

cococay is now tolerable even in the winter season which is nice all year round. What I mean is that hideaway beach has a huge swim up bar that is heated and extremely warm which I take advantage of if I end up going during the winter.

you might have withheld the obstruction % which should be provided in your booking reservation documents. should be much lower then 8% obstruction.

I have ALWAYS purchased the deluxe drink package regardless because it has always been worth the money because it covers more than just alcohol. You get soda, tea, coffee, premium water brands, juice and more!
The average drinker will reach alcohol fatigue well before they get their money's worth or more in drinks BUT below are many reasons you can get your money's worth without hurting your waistline/health or overindulge by getting the deluxe drink package:
- I go to vitality spa for their juice/smoothie bar twice a day in the morning and night. ( I get their green apple, cucumber, ginger, carrot and spinach smoothie)
- Rather than buying the packaged water deal or bring my own, I use my deluxe drink package to get 2 Evian water bottles at any of the bars and hoard them in my cabin to drink whenever.
- Access to fresh brew variety of coffees in the morning.
- They usually have coke zero and sprite zero if you ask.
Add that on top of my wine and cocktails, i've actually surpassed and came out positive in my deluxe drink package.

I have ALWAYS purchased the deluxe drink package regardless because it has always been worth the money because it covers more than just alcohol. You get soda, tea, coffee, premium water brands, juice and more!
The average drinker will reach alcohol fatigue well before they get their money's worth or more in drinks BUT below are many reasons you can get your money's worth without hurting your waistline/health or overindulge by getting the deluxe drink package:
- I go to vitality spa for their juice/smoothie bar twice a day in the morning and night. ( I get their green apple, cucumber, ginger, carrot and spinach smoothie)
- Rather than buying the packaged water deal or bring my own, I use my deluxe drink package to get 2 Evian water bottles at any of the bars and hoard them in my cabin to drink whenever.
- Access to fresh brew variety of coffees in the morning.
- They usually have coke zero and sprite zero if you ask.
Add that on top of my wine and cocktails, i've actually surpassed and came out positive in my deluxe drink package.

***Just an update***
My bid just got accepted as of today for the ocean view with large balcony!!! After more cruisers started confirming their dislike for the infinite balcony from the videos on youtube my anxiety just kept going up. BUT my max bid of $450 per person so $900 total was accepted, moving from infinite ocean balcony to ocean large balcony!
I dont have to stress about compromising my A/C and experience the view and smell of the ocean! 
🥳🥳🥳🥳

***Just an update***
My bid just got accepted as of today for the ocean view with large balcony!!! After more cruisers started confirming their dislike for the infinite balcony from the videos on youtube my anxiety just kept going up. BUT my max bid of $450 per person so $900 total was accepted, moving from infinite ocean balcony to ocean large balcony!
I dont have to stress about compromising my A/C and experience the view and smell of the ocean! 
🥳🥳🥳🥳

I have ALWAYS purchased the deluxe drink package regardless because it has always been worth the money because it covers more than just alcohol. You get soda, tea, coffee, premium water brands, juice and more!
The average drinker will reach alcohol fatigue well before they get their money's worth or more in drinks BUT below are many reasons you can get your money's worth without hurting your waistline/health or overindulge by getting the deluxe drink package:
- I go to vitality spa for their juice/smoothie bar twice a day in the morning and night. ( I get their green apple, cucumber, ginger, carrot and spinach smoothie)
- Rather than buying the packaged water deal or bring my own, I use my deluxe drink package to get 2 Evian water bottles at any of the bars and hoard them in my cabin to drink whenever.
- Access to fresh brew variety of coffees in the morning.
- They usually have coke zero and sprite zero if you ask.
Add that on top of my wine and cocktails, i've actually surpassed and came out positive in my deluxe drink package.

***Just an update***
My bid just got accepted as of today for the ocean view with large balcony!!! After more cruisers started confirming their dislike for the infinite balcony from the videos on youtube my anxiety just kept going up. BUT my max bid of $450 per person so $900 total was accepted, moving from infinite ocean balcony to ocean large balcony!
I dont have to stress about compromising my A/C and experience the view and smell of the ocean! 
🥳🥳🥳🥳

Thank goodness my royal bid was accepted, I personally do not like any of the infinite category. compensating a/c just to open the window is ridiculous, especially for the caribbeans when its known for being humid and hot. I can see it being great for colder climates but not for Icon of the seas with a western/eastern caribbean.

See my post here: 
As you can see in pic, there is no "hard" divider.  There are 2 curtains, a sheer one and a light blocking one. 
 
 

***Just an update***
My bid just got accepted as of today for the ocean view with large balcony!!! After more cruisers started confirming their dislike for the infinite balcony from the videos on youtube my anxiety just kept going up. BUT my max bid of $450 per person so $900 total was accepted, moving from infinite ocean balcony to ocean large balcony!
I dont have to stress about compromising my A/C and experience the view and smell of the ocean! 
🥳🥳🥳🥳

I am going to pay more attention to this next month on Icon because I’ve never really noticed a trend. I do tend to go full force on night one which I’m sure most people do and then level off a bit towards the middle & end. Regardless, I always fast spin every machine I play, every single spin so things happen very quickly! 

Onboard now. Slots pretty good first couple of days. Really tight last 2 days. 2nd night 18k and 15k jackpots announced and observed. We have been playing mostly dancing drums with little luck lately. Not much recirculation at all…  Roulette has been good on my fixed #s. Prime drinks are good and do not seem to care if you grab and go at the bar.  Will ask about the cash out max this PM. 
J&S

This only furthers my assumptions of them making the payouts higher than usual for the inaugural month to entice more gamblers then do the bait switch! I watched so many youtubers all winning net positive! My inner degenerate mind screams at me to go hard at the casino in march but my rational logical self says it's too late don't do it!

I don't gamble a lot but on one day in about 30 minutes I turned 100 dollars into 185. On the other day I went to the casino I played 100 and left about an hour later with 400.  I only played penny slots.  This was on the inaugural Sailing.

I’m sure there is a math wizard on here that could take this photo and get the %. Photo taken on Wonder of the seas while the casino was closed (3/2023). 

If you really want to dig deep into this conspiracy theory, I have been told that the slot machine payouts on Royal Caribbean ships are controlled by the aliens. Full government disclosure is being withheld until the aliens can recoup the money they have lost when their spacecraft crash landed in Roswell! If any of the above is true and the payout on a slot machine can arbitrarily be adjusted w/o regulation then the casino patrons are getting hosed. It’s one thing to gamble with the understanding that the house always has an advantage and another to gamble when the casino has absolute control and manipulation of the payout. I would imagine the alien scenario is more likely. 

It could be my tinfoil hat coming on but i heard win rate is adjustable with the cruise line and "apparently" it's set to payout more often than usual for marketing purposes. I watched nearly every icon of the seas casino vlogs and video and most of them are all winning net positive, It gets you wondering about the bait and switch. With a gambler mentality tricking most consumer after the inaugural month to gamble.

The only intel I have (since we have not cruised on Icon and most likely will not for some time) is that the return on the machines is set at 81% which is extraordinarily low.  I cannot confirm that information.

Has anyone sailed on Icon recently and could give us some feedback in regards to the software in the casino? Is it similar/same as the one on Wonder?
By the way, you can technically charge 10k per day. 5k at the tables and then another 5k at the cashier (with a different credit card). Just FYI if there are any high rollers looking for a larger credit available to them.

It's complimentary.
 

I would like to add that anything the casino department or customer service says is more than likely just speculation as well. Both departments have a habit of steering you in the wrong direction and can’t be trusted. Could you imagine the uprising if the “new software” did not incorporate your hard earned player status? That can’t happen.