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I actually knew the difference been snooty and snotty lol🤣😝

But IMHO you get what you get, when you want to be the mask police. I am not going to tell anyone nothing unless I am in a position of power. You are on vacation.....

I also believe that if you are that concerned with your health, a social vacation like cruising isn't for you. You booked 6 B2B, you should have prepared for children who may or may not be human disease carriers to be around you. Staying in your room is a choice. But children 2 and under don't have to wear mask or test...also children carry the same risk not more when it comes to Covid. I don't understand.....if you are vax, wearing your mask and keeping yourself "clean" why be so worried? Breakthrough infections are rare. I feel like you went into this very negatively and your post is all about trying to paint the restart back as extremely flawed. 

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4 hours ago, BrianB said:

I’m sorry you have to cruise with such restrictive personal needs that require you to take verbal action whenever you see a masking violation coming your way. Must be immensely uncomfortable keeping your head on a swivel so that you can identify and react to an approaching threat. After all, it’s your health on the line, and that can be significantly affected by a wayward breath from a passing infectee not wearing a mask or not wearing it perfectly. I mean, what are the odds, right? It’s a shame that your vacation/s have become so burdensome that you might feel constantly under threat for your life. 
Maybe cruising during this time of unknowns and change may not be the perfect time. After all, it should be a risk vs reward balance, should it not?
Also, by interacting with these masking violators and the resulting arguments that ensue…such as you laughing and them screaming…doesn’t that cause you to have more close contact with them. Isn’t that dangerous on your part? Maybe best to just avoid any close contact by retreating. Maybe your ‘I don’t play’ attitude is dangerous to your health. 
I don’t mean to accuse anyone of being confrontational…I know what it’s like because I sometimes get accused of being sarcastic. Like now.😉

Hmmmmmmm ...

You do realize that I didn't approach either of these people, right?!

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11 hours ago, Ampurp85 said:

I actually knew the difference been snooty and snotty lol🤣😝

But IMHO you get what you get, when you want to be the mask police. I am not going to tell anyone nothing unless I am in a position of power. You are on vacation.....

I also believe that if you are that concerned with your health, a social vacation like cruising isn't for you. You booked 6 B2B, you should have prepared for children who may or may not be human disease carriers to be around you. Staying in your room is a choice. But children 2 and under don't have to wear mask or test...also children carry the same risk not more when it comes to Covid. I don't understand.....if you are vax, wearing your mask and keeping yourself "clean" why be so worried? Breakthrough infections are rare. I feel like you went into this very negatively and your post is all about trying to paint the restart back as extremely flawed. 

I do stay away from children/people.  I was at the spa, trying to eat AWAY from people in peace.  They came into the eating area which requires a mask, unless you are eating.  Now, I do stay in my cabin and have food delivered to me.  As a concerned mask wearer, I guess I should be the one not allowed to cruise, huh?!  There are rules in place and I follow them.  I would NOT have booked over 30+ cruises if I knew that I had to be tested before each cruise.  It is a very scarey and frustrating feeling to know that a simple test result can send you home, in the midst of your travels!  (Did you see the YouTube video of the 57 year old woman who tested positive & wasn't sick, but they had to forcibly take her off the ship?). I would leave on my own two feet, but she may help you realize the crazy situation we are in right now with these weekly tests. (?) Maybe, or maybe not.  Life is all about choices.  I chose to cruise, as long as I can and I will try to be as safe as I possibly can, even if that means staying in my cabin!  (I have a beautiful & peaceful view.). Peace...

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That is fishy because as @Pooch said you could have gotten a refund when protocols were announced. They have everything in writing like test and mask procedures. Where you would have saw that a 2 y/o wouldn't need a mask but everyone above age that would in certain areas. It clearly states you need to test before each cruise..... much has not changed. Either you didn't do your due diligence or you didn't care but either way, by stepping on that ship you indicated you were okay with the protocols. 

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On 9/22/2021 at 6:23 AM, Pooch said:

Sorry but it makes absolutely no sense that the staff cannot ask someone to comply with mask protocols unless another passenger complains first.  That’s ludicrous.  You are not, nor is any passenger, the mask police.

It is very political.  Remember, we are on the ship, so Maritime Law is in place.  Enough said.

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On 9/22/2021 at 10:06 AM, ellcee said:

As someone who is vaccinated, still masks up when in public and basically stays at home because I have family who is at risk and I want to be able to see them whenever...

 

Was the 2 year old directly in your space? Have you tried to get a 2 year old to do anything? It's like herding cats. I also think the parents should try but maybe we should be a little more compassionate. Not trying to be argumentative and I realize anyone could spread anything but reprimanding a parent for toddler seems a lot. 

 

I wasn't at all trying to reprimand a child, simply asked the father, for him to have a mask put on, as they entered the area where I was eating and needed my mask off to accomplish that task.  The man was pushing the stoller all over the spa, while he waited for the other members of his party who were in the spa.  He could either put the mask on the child, to allow me to eat safely, or continue to push the child around the spa where the child should be masked, but no one there cared if he was.  I would have even left, if he refused to put a mask on his child.  But, instead, he backed up and was then confronted by staff in the spa, handing him a mask.  This caused him to blow up at me, while I stood at the spa Vitality counter, still waiting for my smoothie.  He was at least 20+ feet away from me, screaming the entire time until the members of his group finally joined him and they left.  I would have left, as soon as my smoothie was done, if he insisted to remain in my space with an unmasked child.  He had a choice and I had a choice.  Life is full of choices & we have free will for how we respond.  It didn't need to go into rage, over a mask request.

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23 hours ago, Ampurp85 said:

@ellcee Exactly, I have seen exactly one 3 yo comply with their mask and he was basically enticed with the promise of ice cream after dinner.

 

The ship has rules for masks and I was simply trying to eat in a very peaceful area of the ship during a time when other venues were packed with people.  If people cannot follow the rules for their children 2+ to be masked, then why is that MY problem?!  If you cannot control people you bring on a ship, maybe the ship isn't the place for them?!  or, MAYBE you should keep your child in the areas where masks are NOT required, if you don't like the required masking areas?!  I dunno, just a crazy thought ...

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6 hours ago, BrianB said:

I’m sorry you have to cruise with such restrictive personal needs that require you to take verbal action whenever you see a masking violation coming your way. Must be immensely uncomfortable keeping your head on a swivel so that you can identify and react to an approaching threat. After all, it’s your health on the line, and that can be significantly affected by a wayward breath from a passing infectee not wearing a mask or not wearing it perfectly. I mean, what are the odds, right? It’s a shame that your vacation/s have become so burdensome that you might feel constantly under threat for your life. 
Maybe cruising during this time of unknowns and change may not be the perfect time. After all, it should be a risk vs reward balance, should it not?
Also, by interacting with these masking violators and the resulting arguments that ensue…such as you laughing and them screaming…doesn’t that cause you to have more close contact with them. Isn’t that dangerous on your part? Maybe best to just avoid any close contact by retreating. Maybe your ‘I don’t play’ attitude is dangerous to your health. 
I don’t mean to accuse anyone of being confrontational…I know what it’s like because I sometimes get accused of being sarcastic. Like now.😉

I completely agree!!!  I go where I believe I am safe.  Unfortunately, not all people like to abide by the rules.  Hence, I have to take matters into my own hands.  I have since been staying in my cabin, enjoying my views, getting lots of work done on-line, and having room service.

I go with the flow and adjust to my environment.  Must be why I am a survivor, huh?!

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2 hours ago, Pooch said:

Maritime law has NOTHING TO DO with the crew enforcing ships protocols and they most certainly do not have to wait until a passenger complains to do so.  

LoL !!!  Okay ...  Maybe you should think just a wee bit deeper about Maritime Law and how it might affect how or if a staff member does anything at all.  You may also want to know your Captain and his stance on things.  Captain is the law on his ships!!!

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Really, in our current circumstances, with the fate of cruising hanging on every sailing, you think the Captain is going to make his own decisions on how to apply Covid protocols?  Because he wants to be the one hung out to DRY if something goes wrong on his watch??  What kind of koolaid are you drinking????

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4 hours ago, Pooch said:

Why would you want to cruise like this?  Let alone 30 times!  You CAN get refunds as soon as protocols for each cruise is announced.  You say yourself you would not have booked these cruises had you known the testing requirements so why are you still doing it?

Not that I have to explain myself to you, but I will.  I am a gambler and I received over 30+ FREE cruises for this year through next year.  When I CANCEL a FREE cruise I get what I paid for taxes & port fees.  I don't get any lost time for organizing or carefully planning and fitting in various cruises and cruiselines, for back-to-backs, etc...  In addition, this year through next, there are DOUBLE points for cruising.  Why is this important?  With the 12 remaing RC cruises, I should be Pinnacle by March 2022 (if Puerto Rico becomes sailable) otherwise April 2022.  Why is Pinnacle important?!  I will have priviledges & better fare rates, allowing children to sail for free and sharing great rates with the family who joins me, etc...

If you aren't a heavy gambler, you may not see the benefits to why I don't just CANCEL my free cruises, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel and I am almost there.

Oh shoot!  Did I just sound "snooty" again?!

P.S.  Obviously I am not sarcastic at all.  🙃🤔🙃

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1 hour ago, Pooch said:

Really, in our current circumstances, with the fate of cruising hanging on every sailing, you think the Captain is going to make his own decisions on how to apply Covid protocols?  Because he wants to be the one hung out to DRY if something goes wrong on his watch??  What kind of koolaid are you drinking????

Oh boy ... Don't put words in my mouth.  LMAO!!!  

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17 minutes ago, CarolBCHonkanen said:

LoL !!!  Okay ...  Maybe you should think just a wee bit deeper about Maritime Law and how it might affect how or if a staff member does anything at all.  You may also want to know your Captain and his stance on things.  Captain is the law on his ships!!!

🤷‍♀️  Captain is the law on his ships??

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