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Question. If Royal cancels the cruise, do they offer a refund instead of FCC? 

We are set to sail June 7 on Oasis. Will happily go if it sails, just thinking ahead. The same cruise in 2021 is much more expensive at this point and is honestly the only time of year we can get the whole family together.

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@Wnuk If RCCI cancels then you will get a refund.

I am sure the government will bail out the cruise industry but they will ask for a bit of restructuring. I will say that I expect Memorial Day to be the inaugural return of cruising and not a day before. If everyone follows the advised quarantine of 2 to 3 weeks then we should be seeing a shift in the virus cases.

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I have a cruise booked for June 14.  My final payment was due on yesterday and I did pay it, but only after I called and got a room upgrade from an oceanview room with pull down beds and no sleeper sofa to two oceanview balcony rooms for my family of 5 for $400 more.   I really hope things are better then, as I'm much more excited about it now that I don't have to sleep with my kids in my room and have 2 bathrooms, but at the same time I'm realistic so won't be surprised if we have to postpone.  

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I think we are all in for a shock as far as the extent that this will impact day to day life.  I don't think any of us will be cruising over the next 60 days.  

Once the spread has stopped it will take weeks before that will be known.  Even then they'll be cautious to remove restrictions to ensure it doesn't flare up again.  Once the spread has stopped and we go through a waiting period to be absolutely certain it has stopped life will begin to get back to normal, airlines will start flying again, bars and restaurants will open, ship will start sailing, hotels will resume normal operations, movie theaters will reopen.

It hasn't peaked yet so we will face more changes in the coming weeks.   In my opinion May cruises on the bubble, June cruises are a possibility, July and August look better.  That will all change as this progresses.

Consider your cancellation strategy carefully, don't cancel prematurely especially if you are paid in full.  We've already seen some people cancel only to have a better offer appear a day or two later.  I think that is a possibility for the next phase of cruises after April 10, the end of the current cessation.   If there is another phase after that it may ring true again.

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16 hours ago, RCIfan1912 said:

I think if we don't use it all for that cruise, which we definitely won't we can use the rest for another cruise so we use the rest to book a cruise next spring too. Hell of a deal to me. Is that how it works?

Yes..once you sail on the first cruise the remaining FCC will get reissued for you to use to book the next one!

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5 hours ago, twangster said:

I think we are all in for a shock as far as the extent that this will impact day to day life.  I don't think any of us will be cruising over the next 60 days.  

Once the spread has stopped it will take weeks before that will be known.  Even then they'll be cautious to remove restrictions to ensure it doesn't flare up again.  Once the spread has stopped and we go through a waiting period to be absolutely certain it has stopped life will begin to get back to normal, airlines will start flying again, bars and restaurants will open, ship will start sailing, hotels will resume normal operations, movie theaters will reopen.

It hasn't peaked yet so we will face more changes in the coming weeks.     In my opinion May cruises on the bubble, June cruises are a possibility, July and August look better.  That will all change as this progresses.

Consider your cancellation strategy carefully, don't cancel prematurely especially if you are paid in full.  We've already seen some people cancel only to have a better offer appear a day or two later.  I think that is a possibility for the next phase of cruises after April 10, the end of the current cessation.  

I completely agree with your take on the situation. It is hard to predict however. If, and I realize that is a huge word, people will use common sense and the guidelines that are being suggested we might see this end in as early as 60 days. However I'm more concerned over the whole "note from your doctor" . I really can see this putting a lot of people (70 and older} out of the mood to sail. I'm all about safety first but this almost seems preschool in some aspects. With temps being checked as well as advanced medical screening at the port terminals and probably air terminals to follow the last thing I want to do is make an appointment with my family physician. Our sail date is May 29th and we will hold out, however my wife turns 70 in December and unless we sail prior to her birthday a lot of praying and discussion will be in order. At this point I would hold out for the FCC, but I would only attempt one rebook, if that were to fall through we would probably find an entirely new vacation venue. Again not blaming anyone or any entity at some point one has to decide whether the hoop is worth jumping through.

Safe travels to all !!  

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12 hours ago, cheby said:

I was told very doubtful as I believe they pay very little in US taxes unlike the big 3 automakers with a lot of US employees

Not surprising, and if so, I sure hope they don't get a bailout. I would personally much rather my tax dollars go to struggling small business owners rather than mega corporations that pay relatively little in taxes. 

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2 minutes ago, Zacharius said:

Not surprising, and if so, I sure hope they don't get a bailout. I would personally much rather my tax dollars go to struggling small business owners rather than mega corporations that pay relatively little in taxes. 

Relative is the operative word.  All large corporations including the big three automakers use business strategies to minimize tax burden.  Our own president admitted he pays no taxes and proclaimed that is smart.  Indeed it is.  They all use the tax code as it is written to minimize tax burden.

The cruise industry isn't just about where the ships are registered.  All shipping companies around the world register their ships under a flag of convenience.   The spin off jobs created in support of the cruise industry number in the hundreds of thousands.  Just like the automakers it wasn't the automakers that were bailed out - it was the supply chain that supports them.  That's is what lawmakers who bailed them out were afraid of, not the automakers failing themselves.

Unlike our president, American cruise lines do pay US taxes, just not on the asset value of the ships.  These are American corporations that pay taxes on their profits like any other American corporation.  If they moved their HQ to some foreign country and operated as a foreign corporation I could see a reluctance to offer them bail out funds but that is not the case.  

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3 hours ago, twangster said:

I think we are all in for a shock as far as the extent that this will impact day to day life.  I don't think any of us will be cruising over the next 60 days.  

Once the spread has stopped it will take weeks before that will be known.  Even then they'll be cautious to remove restrictions to ensure it doesn't flare up again.  Once the spread has stopped and we go through a waiting period to be absolutely certain it has stopped life will begin to get back to normal, airlines will start flying again, bars and restaurants will open, ship will start sailing, hotels will resume normal operations, movie theaters will reopen.

It hasn't peaked yet so we will face more changes in the coming weeks.   In my opinion May cruises on the bubble, June cruises are a possibility, July and August look better.  That will all change as this progresses.

Consider your cancellation strategy carefully, don't cancel prematurely especially if you are paid in full.  We've already seen some people cancel only to have a better offer appear a day or two later.  I think that is a possibility for the next phase of cruises after April 10, the end of the current cessation.   If there is another phase after that it may ring true again.

I agree.  I wish RCCL would go ahead and cancel through mid May at least.  I’m supposed to cruise on 5/10 and don’t expect it to happen. 

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1 minute ago, Kelly68 said:

I am very happy my cruise is end of October so confident I purchased air fare last week and planning another one in January 

i am so sorry for everyone vacation delays hope everyone stays healthy to go on your next cruise whenever it may be.

I have one planned for either June or July, but if neither of those are a go, I've got a Christmas cruise to look forward to!

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On 3/16/2020 at 8:28 PM, Wnuk said:

Question. If Royal cancels the cruise, do they offer a refund instead of FCC? 

We are set to sail June 7 on Oasis. Will happily go if it sails, just thinking ahead. The same cruise in 2021 is much more expensive at this point and is honestly the only time of year we can get the whole family together.

I'm in the same boat (literally LOL). I really hope things are better by then. I have waited for so long for this!

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   Like Twangster said,  its not just the big guy we bail out but the LARGE supply chain that gets bailed out also.  Something simple like milk,  goes back to the small dairy.  When the auto industry was bailed out,  they ended up paying back the government with interest.  It wasnt just given to them free and clear.

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Many industries are going to be impacted by this and will come looking for a bailout.  I think the government is going to make hard choices about who gets saved and who doesn't.  Airlines (as one example) are far more critical to the nation's economy than cruiselines.  So don't be surprised if the cruiselines don't get a bailout, or don't get as much of a bailout as they might hope for.  It's hard to predict what the cruise industry will look like in the long-term.  Do all lines survive this?  We don't know...but I don't think it's certain that all do.  

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Reality is this will pass, we need to relax and wait it out. If you are canceled REBOOK, if that one is canceled REBOOK. You can not let this stop you from cruising, RCCL will not go belly up, they purchase to many supplies and pay too much for port fees for them not to bail them out.

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10 hours ago, ehw51 said:

Reality is this will pass, we need to relax and wait it out. If you are canceled REBOOK, if that one is canceled REBOOK. You can not let this stop you from cruising, RCCL will not go belly up, they purchase to many supplies and pay too much for port fees for them not to bail them out.

I agree with this. No way this gonna stop me from cruising. I'm hoping to go on ours on Oasis in May but if not, reschedule for September. No biggie. 

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I'm set to cruise on Adventure in either June or July. The only thing that's frustrating me is that Royal is taking their time in making decisions. I mean, I get it -- there are huge ramifications for cancelling cruises...but still, having to make last-minute decisions as a cruiser and then waiting and waiting for refunds/FCCs makes things a little tough!

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On 3/17/2020 at 9:30 AM, Zacharius said:

Not surprising, and if so, I sure hope they don't get a bailout. I would personally much rather my tax dollars go to struggling small business owners rather than mega corporations that pay relatively little in taxes. 

I hope they do get a bailout.   How fast everyone forgets all of the good these companies do for other in dyer situations, like how they all jumped in to help with Hurricane relief.  No one had to ask, then just did.  They did not ask for anything in return for their help.    People forget the good quickly and always remember the bad things that are usually not able to control.   #SaveOurShips

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