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16 minutes ago, UNCFanatik said:
Outdated guidance that was given before vaccines that ignores the data on cruises that have happened during the pandemic.
And that's why the Cruise industry met with CDC this week about cruises restarting this summer to express their concerns. It's a move forward despite how small it may be.
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6 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:
Is that different than "closed" given the complete pile of unworkable garbage that is the CSO ?
Yes it is as the Senators are for opening U.S. Ports under strict guidance unlike prior which they explicitly stated they wanted it closed. It's a move forward despite how small it may be.
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9 minutes ago, UNCFanatik said:
Newsflash Senators, Americans will be cruising outside the US this summer. Americans will be swarming to Vegas Casinos this summer. Crowds will happen this summer.
But sure, ignore all that and focus on the continued US shutdown of an industry. Ignore the data from the cruises during the pandemic and how many cases there ACTUALLY were.
Data>Politics
You should rename your title to this topic as these Senators are not urging the CDC to keep cruise industry closed. What they are urging is, and I quote with emphasis, "We urge you to strictly enforce the technical guidance issued under the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order (CSO) to minimize this threat, and take all appropriate steps—including halting cruises as necessary—if outbreaks occur on board."
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13 minutes ago, Chmusar said:
hi
can you confirm if this is the website for air2sea as i am not sure as i thought it was something you booked directly with RCCL
https://www.flygmt.com/air-2-sea/
cheers
That is not the site. This is the correct site: https://secure.cruisingpower.com/choiceair/protected/home.do?brand=R
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12 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
I'm still bummed I didn't pull the trigger on the coco cay beach club when it was $71 per person right after Adventure went on sale.
Keep an eye out. Stranger things have happened.
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8 minutes ago, steverk said:
I heard it on the La Lido Loca youtube channel, but I'm at work right now and won't be able to link the specific video until I get home later the evening.
BTW: my comment was an interesting observation, not a prediction. You are free to believe that something will happen in July or not. Either way, we'll find out in a couple months!
Oh I hope cruises happen in July as I have one booked for the July 4th weekend. I'm just tired of waiting patiently and sitting around fearing the growth of "secretary hips", and on a guy that look is not good.
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18 minutes ago, steverk said:
It is my understanding that the CDC emergency declaration, which was originally issued in January 2020, must be renewed every 90 days. It's up for renewal this month, but there's no way it won't be. Therefore, the next extension would be July.
Can you provide a link to the CDC emergency declaration? I believe you are confusing it with the CDC Extends Eviction Moratorium Through End of June.
Update: I found the latest order: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0409-modifications-extension-no-sail-ships.html, which I believe you are referring to:
This Order shall continue in operation until the earliest of three situations. First, the expiration of the Secretary of Health and Human Services’ declaration that COVID-19 constitutes a public health emergency. Second, the CDC Director rescinds or modifies the order based on specific public health or other considerations. Or third, 100 days from the date of publication in the Federal Register.
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26 minutes ago, steverk said:
When does the COVID emergency declaration expire (unless renewed)? July
Where do you see this?? There is no end date per President Biden's Notice of February 24, 2021. See: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/02/24/notice-on-the-continuation-of-the-national-emergency-concerning-the-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-pandemic/
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7 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
...getting the final balance due reminder?
On one hand, "yes, the cruise is getting close!"
On the other, "crap, I'm gonna have a big credit card bill next month"
Lose 30 lbs before the cruise to break even with all that we eat & drink ???
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19 minutes ago, KJones said:
Personally, I'd choose to spend the extra day in Florence. You could also do the extra day in Rome - both cities need multiple days to see the highlights. Unless you're there for Carneval (which it doesn't sound like you will be), I haven't found Venice to need more than a day for sightseeing.
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19 minutes ago, steverk said:
Celebrity Millennium out of St. Maarten in June? This is one of those cruises announced in the last few weeks that avoids the US and was specifically excluded from the latest round of cancellations.
So, No, I don't realize it is a bust at this point. Am I missing something?
Ohhhhh.....Leaving out of St. Marteen??? Hmmmm...didn't see that. Thanks!!!!!!
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7 minutes ago, steverk said:
Don't read too much in to this. I'm scheduled on Celebrity Millennium in June and Adventure in July. I fully expect both to set sail, but I get the same message when I attempt to access my reservation through the app.
You do realize that your June cruise is a bust at this point?
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15 minutes ago, UNCFanatik said:
until nov 31 when no sail order is expired
It's November 1st.
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My 2 cents: I don't think July 4th would be the start date considering the below. You can't even check-in at this point which you should be able to AND by the comment made by the RCG Rep when I questioned the issue:
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@shassyloraine, below you will find a wealth of information from Royal Caribbean that will be helpful to you and others on this board:
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AUTISM FRIENDLY SHIPS
Royal Caribbean offers an autism friendly initiative for families living with autism, Down Syndrome and other developmental disabilities. This includes sensory friendly films and toys, dietary menu options, and overall autism friendly training for Adventure Ocean staff and more.
Royal Caribbean offers a wide range of autism friendly products and services, and they include:- Priority check-in, boarding and departure
- Special dietary accommodations including gluten-free and dairy-free
- Adventure Ocean flexible grouping by ability for children 3 to 11 years old
- Adventure Ocean toilet-trained policy exception
- Pagers/phones for parents of children in Adventure Ocean program while signed into our care (subject to availability) Availability: These Autism Friendly products and services are available on all cruises
In addition, Autism on the Seas offers “Staffed Cruises” catering to families with children, teens and adults with autism and other developmental disabilities. These “Staffed Cruises” include:- Extra professionally trained staff in caring for individuals with developmental disabilities (provided at one staff member for every 2-3 special needs guests)
- Assistance with Royal Caribbean’s products and services
- Specialized respite sessions
- Private activities and sessions
THE AUTISM CHANNEL
Royal Caribbean International is the first in the hospitality industry to offer complimentary on-demand access to exclusive content from The Autism Channel® onboard most of its ships.
The Autism Channel is a streaming television service providing information and resources to families and professionals supporting and improving the lives of people with autism spectrum disorders. Educational and entertainment programming on The Autism Channel ranges from a look inside the daily lives of families with children on the spectrum, to interviews with medical and legal professionals.
The Autism Channel is available on all Quantum, Oasis, Freedom, Voyager and Radiance class ships. To access The Autism Channel content, select The Autism Channel folder under OnDemand Movies from the iTV (interactive TV) menu.AUTISM FRIENDLY FILMS
Autism friendly films are presented in a low-lit and low volume environment. Guests are encouraged to freely talk and walk around during the film. These films will be offered on all sailings on Oasis class ships and on other ships, when there are autism groups or at least five individuals with autism onboard. Dates and times will be highlighted in the Cruise Compass.
AUTISM FRIENDLY TOY LENDING PROGRAM
Autism friendly toy lending is available in our Adventure Ocean Youth Program on all ships. Upon request, we will provide a tote bag of autism friendly toys that may be used in Adventure Ocean or in their stateroom. Parents may select other autism friendly toys that are more appropriate for their child. Examples of Autism Friendly Toys include: non-toxic crayons, markers, water colors, building blocks, dominoes, and picture books.
AUTISM FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES
We offer activities for children of all abilities. Families are encouraged to consult with Adventure Ocean staff regarding any special needs that their children may have in order to identify which activities are appropriate for their child and any possible modifications.
CRUISING SOCIAL STORY
A Social Story is a written or visual guide describing various social interactions, situations, behaviors, skills or concepts. These Social Stories help individuals with autism to better cope with social situations. Royal Caribbean offers a Cruising Social Story about cruising to help families with autism prepare for their cruise vacation.
WHAT DO YOU OFFER FOR TEENS WITH AUTISM?
- Expedited check-in, boarding and departure
- Special dietary accommodations including gluten-free
- Autism Friendly Toy Lending
- Autism Friendly Films
- Social Story
- Our Teen Program with teens-only hangouts and activities. Please note while some activities are hosted, they do not provide supervision or one on one attention.
WHAT DO YOU OFFER FOR ADULTS WITH AUTISM?
- Expedited check-in, boarding and departure
- Special dietary accommodations including gluten-free
- Autism Friendly Toy Lending
- Autism Friendly Films
- Social Story
- Our Cruise Activities Program. Please note while some activities are hosted, they do not provide supervision or one on one attention. (Adults are not permitted in Teen or Adventure Ocean spaces.)
TRAINING
All Youth staff are required to have a four year University degree or international equivalent in education, recreation or a related field. They also have at least three to five years qualified experience in working with children ages six months to 17 years.
In addition, all Youth staff have received autism awareness training developed by Autism on the Seas. This training covers following topics: characteristics of autism and developmental disabilities, correct person-first language and terms, and skills to initiate a conversation with a parent about his or her child’s needs.To customize your accommodations to meet your specific needs, please complete the Guest Special Needs FormWe encourage you notify us of your needs at the time of booking, to guarantee availability of specific equipment or services. Please provide 60 days advance notice if you need sign language interpreting services during your cruise, 30 days advance notice if you need special equipment or services to accommodate your disability during the cruise. If we do not receive enough advance notice, we will make reasonable efforts to provide requested equipment and/or services. You must provide 72 hours advance notice if you are traveling with a group of 10 or more passengers with disability.MORE INFORMATION
Call our Access Department at (866) 592-7225, or send an e-mail to special_needs@rccl.com, or have your local travel agent or International Representative contact us. Our fax number is
(954) 628-9622.ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE
Feel free to ask for a Complaint Resolution Official (CRO). Our CROs have been trained and are aware of applicable U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) disability regulations as well as our policies and procedures regarding guests with disabilities. Our CROs are available at all U.S ports of departure and ships. -
58 minutes ago, Biff215 said:
My apologies if this has already been discussed but I couldn’t find it anywhere. We’ve been to Nassau a few times. Obviously they can handle a bunch of ships visiting for the day, but where exactly will Adventure dock? I’m just trying to envision how they will handle security, luggage, etc. Is there an actual cruise terminal?
Nassau cruise terminal is at Prince George Wharf, located on island's northern coast.
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18 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
It's a much bigger question than just cruise lines. It's the thought that everything you do in public will be dictated by your having a passport or not. But further discussion outside the scope of cruising isn't necessary for this board.
I'm sure after reading the below article, you will no longer have to worry:
Covid: US rules out federal vaccine passports
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ShareRelated TopicsThe White House has ruled out introducing mandatory federal Covid-19 vaccination passports, saying citizens' privacy and rights should be protected.
Schemes to introduce such passports have been touted around the world as a way to enable safe circulation of people while fighting the pandemic.
But critics say such documents could be discriminatory.
The US said it did not and would not support a "system that requires Americans to carry a credential".
The country has reported more than 550,000 deaths linked to the virus and nearly 31 million cases, the highest numbers in the world, according to Johns Hopkins University.
Addressing reporters, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said there would be no "federal vaccinations database" or a "federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential".
"The government is not now, nor will be, supporting a system that requires Americans to carry a credential," she said. "Our interest is very simple from the federal government, which is Americans' privacy and rights should be protected, and so that these systems are not used against people unfairly."
Countries around the world are looking at the introduction of so-called vaccine passports, which would be used to show that a person has been inoculated against Covid-19, as a way of safely reopening mass gatherings and travel.In England, a "Covid status certification" scheme is being developed to enable concerts and sports matches to take place. It would record whether people had been vaccinated, recently tested negative, or had already had and recovered from Covid-19.
The European Union is also working on plans to introduce certificates, while in Israel a "Green Pass" is already available to anyone who has been fully vaccinated or has recovered from Covid-19, which they have to show to access facilities such as hotels, gyms or theatres.
The World Health Organization on Tuesday said it did not currently support requiring vaccination passports for travel, because of uncertainty over whether inoculation prevents transmission, and discrimination concerns.
Meanwhile, US President Joe Biden announced on Tuesday that he had brought forward to 19 April the date by which all American adults will be eligible for a Covid vaccine.
"We have to ramp up a whole-of-government approach that rallies the whole country and puts us on a war footing to truly beat this virus," he said.
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8 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
The question was about a vaccine passport mandate, not voluntarily letting someone (in this case, a cruise line) know you're vaccinated.
I'll rephrase it. What is the issue with the vaccine passport mandate which will be used to verify to the cruise lines that you have been vaccinated against COVID?
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53 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
privacy and civil liberty concerns
Privacy would not be an issue since HIPPA compliance would need to be adhered to. Inasmuch, the only info and requirement needed would be if the passenger was vaccinated against COVID. As a passenger, you give the cruise line more information about youself than you realized pre-covid.
As for civil liberties concern, which would be privacy, explained above. You protect privacy every day by ensuring that personally identifiable information is appropriately gathered, documented, used, retained, and shared. Generally speaking, personally identifiable information includes data that can be used to identify a specific individual, such as an individual’s name, home address, credit card information or social security number, which cruise lines already have this information as you, the passenger, trusted the cruise line and provided this information to them. Insofar, the concern of privacy is a moot argument.
Final point, if you are on Facebook and/or any message boards including THIS board, you have already disclosed your private information and most do not realize it. Just by reading this, your name and home address is known. Big Brother is always watching.
And so I ask, what is the issue by letting the cruise lines know you have been vaccinated unless you have an ulterior motive or hiding something.
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48 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:
It'd be a big part of it. Also there would be a lot of legal challenges to a passport mandate.
Why would there be legal challenges to a passport mandate?
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.... cancels cruises in July and August on 10 ships
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38 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:
My guess is they figure nothing to lose and lets try and make the CDC go on record that fully vaccinated cruises arent good enough to base a restart on ....
FINALLY!!! Someone who got it right!!!
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23 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:
A Conditional Sail Order with the conditions not defined is the same thing as a No Sail Order.
You are 100% correct. It's just the same horse of a different color.
U.S. Politicians Urge CDC to Keep Cruise Industry Closed
in Royal Caribbean News and Rumors
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100% agree!!