Requiring Vaccine...so no Fla.?

[Matt]

3 hours ago, Criusluvr said:

I don’t understand the fact that the cruises have been left out of everything opening up as though they’re a different entity. But now they fall under the “business” category of not being able to require proof of vaccine?  It’s like a double slap in the face. 

Without getting too much into the details, the issue is the cruise lines getting caught between the CDC (federal government) and Florida 

[dswallow]

A lot of things come from Royal Caribbean in automated ways and they have a tremendous number of online assets that have to be adjusted. Their business model is not normally needing to be reactive-by-the-minute to changes, so a whole lot of conflict goes out as messaging. 

The only way to really figure out what's going on is to watch the sources of different changes, as they come to you, as well. For instance, the emails explicitly sent by the individual in charge of putting together the protocols probably are more current than anything that gets triggered in some timed automated way like an email, especially one with pretty graphics attached and likely one that went through design  and revision and redesign, et. al.

Yes, it's very subjective to try to figure this out!

But you know it's really where we are, and really where we were told we would be in some of these communications. So give priority to things that are attached to individuals when reading communications from Royal Caribbean, for sure.

And right now, the only real upcoming sailing in North America is on Adventure of the Seas, somewhat outside the purview of CDC control, though apparently to some extent being used in some way to demonstrate something to the CDC. So if you're looking for signs and portents to divine what will happen with other sailings, this is really all you've got right now.

And I think most everyone on the Adventure 6/12/2021 sailing is staring at their email and chanting various spells awaiting the next one, too. 

 

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[Matt]

20 minutes ago, dswallow said:

And right now, the only real upcoming sailing in North America is on Adventure of the Seas, somewhat outside the purview of CDC control, though apparently to some extent being used in some way to demonstrate something to the CDC.

It is clear the rules for Adventure will be the same for any ship from USA. Royal is either unwilling to craft different protocols for USA vs outside USA, or as you say, wishes to garner some goodwill in their end-around the CDC.

[smokeybandit]

With Celebrity Millennium announcing they aren't going to require masks, I hope that is mirrored by AOS, too. That may be one of the only slight deviations from CDC policy (assuming those cruises go at under 95%)