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Regarding this quote:

"Mr. Fain echoed a new policy posted on its website that says everyone who is eligible to get a vaccine will be expected to get one."

Would this mean that as I am a UK resident and my children will not be eligible to be vaccinated by my cruise date, we can still go?

14 minutes ago, FionaMG said:

I guess you didn't notice the post you answered is from last year, 2020, when Allure was due to be in Europe. This year it's Harmony that's in Europe, not Allure. Sorry to hear you won't be able to make your sailing.

I didn't think to look, you forget how long this has been going on for! 

Im going to book up a villa in Cape Coral as an alternative!

How long should it take to receive some form of info re my Aug 22nd cruise?

If I do a dummy booking there is no mention of vaccines?

On 6/13/2020 at 1:50 PM, PieEater said:

I’m in a similar position - we have paid our deposit to sale from Barcelona on Allure of the Seas in August. Final payment was due today so I called and they offered me lift and shift to same itinerary on Harmony next year from Barcelona - saying I would only have to pay difference in taxes and gratuities which seemed reasonable.

I had a guaranteed balcony room on Allure (where RC pick the room instead of me). They checked all dates 4 weeks either side of my cruise in 12 months time and said they cannot match a “guaranteed balcony” despite the fact there are million of balcony rooms available and said as it’s not like for like - I’d have to upgrade to a specific room category which would cost me over another £1300.

The operator spoke to her team leader but that’s the best offer they would make.

Can’t say I’m overly impressed with Royal’s service to be honest. 

I didnt know Allure was sailing from Barcelona in August, im due to sail on her in August from Port Canaveral (Although not now due to the vaccination policy).

Im guessing by doing this they hit the 95% vaccinated target?  Very unfair on some families, unless this changes.

Just been in contact with RC and these new rules apply to my Aug 22 cruise.  Thats going to go down well with the family!

16 minutes ago, RBRSKI said:

I think if you don't mind vaccinating your 12 y/o or older, it won't affect you!  In our case, we couldn't get the vaccine and have enough time to follow the protocol Royal mandated for the June 19th cruise so they are refunding all monies or FCC.

Small chance of that in the UK by July, and I wont be vaccinating them even if offered.

Should I be expecting a communication with my options Allure 22nd August?

That would be my cruise out, I doubt the UK will be offering children vaccines by my trip in August (not that I want them to have it)

15 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

 

Under the CRUISE WITH CONFIDENCE you can Cancel up to 48 hours before you sail and get a future cruise credit valid to book by April 30, 2022 and sail by September 30, 2022. This is for cruises booked on or before May 31st, 2021. Here is the link that explains everything: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-with-confidence

You can do this also online as well as calling them BUT if you used a TA, let them do it. Hope it helps.

Actually, this sounds like what ive been offered.  Apart from the fact the are saying this must be done BEFORE my final payment.  Or are they not explaining properly by saying 'make final payment and you can do this upto 48hrs before sail date'

1 hour ago, FionaMG said:

Perhaps you could book something now as a back up. In the current climate of uncertainty, many places let you book with no upfront payments and free cancellation up to a day or two before arrival. If you can find one that's suitable for your needs, you're all set if your cruise doesn't go ahead or you can cancel if it does.

Thats the route im going down, just trying to find somewhere that gives me a late enough free cancellation.

1 hour ago, Phoenix said:

30 days out is when RCG notifies you as to protocols. I'm 45 days out and still can't check-in or have not received protocols. I was told by RCG everything at this point is done 30 days out. I also have the option to cancel and receive FCC BUT I'll wait as I know it's going to be canceled. Then, "BADA-BING!!" the ball is in my court, so-to-speak, as to full refund (serves RCG right if I do cancel since they are waiting till the last possible moment) or take a FCC. RCG might even do L&S. Always have a backup plan just in case your cruise gets canceled. 

Ive not been told I cant cancel and receive FCC.

22 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Best answer is sit and wait till RCG irons out the ever changing protocols as nothing is happening yet and things are changing every day. Thirty days out from your sail date, RCG will let you know what protocols are in place along with your options should you decide to move and/or cancel your cruise.

Sadly 30 days out might be too late to sort alternative accommodation, that would only give me just over 2 weeks.

I am due to cruise at the end of August for the third week of our three week trip in August. I'm travelling from the UK so assuming Biden /Boris lets us go I'm all set apart from the cruise week, and if I'm not cruising I need to find alternative accommodation for a week. I have the following issues:

1. My children wont be vaccinated, what will RC do about children that are unable to get the vaccine (not that I want them to have it anyway) Who pays for the all the tests required?

2. I don't wish to cruise, where masks are required during eating! Will RC not compensate for an inferior experience (I'm aware its not there fault)

Apparently, according to RC my only option is to move my booking to 2022, losing my promotion and at prevailing rates, as long as I've paid my balance by 26th June. Currently it looks like I either wait and hope sailing conditions change, or cancel and end up paying more for next year and losing my promotions.  If I wasn't in the UK this would not be a problem but time is not on my side!

I feel that my options are very limited and I am running out of time to decide! And I need a lot more info from RC by the 26th June.

I did a l&s from Aug 20 to Aug21, does the cwc apply?

i.e if my cruise departs but under the preposterous cdc conditions I don't wish to go, where would I stand regarding refunds etc?

Odd that RC havent released any response to the latest CDC guidance?

Frustrating for me as I need to know asap whether my cruise from Port Canaveral will happen at end of August, as I'm travelling from the UK I would need to find alternative accommodation for the week assuming Biden lets me in!

On 5/5/2021 at 1:55 PM, MaritimeR&R said:

Likely that is also the reason that any news about specific ships and ports that will sail under the 98/95/5 protocol will not be forthcoming until the last possible moment to forestall the avalanche of phone calls requesting FCCs, refunds, or L&S.

Will requesting a l&s be possible? is it only if rc cancel? And what happens if you have already done a l&s?

46 minutes ago, alamode123 said:

I want everywhere possible to require a vaccine passport for entry when they are available. Flights, restaurants, theme parks, international travel.

It's safer for everyone, and would give an incentive for antivaxxers to change.

Wow vaccine apartheid! Incentives and coercion should not be pushed! In fact once the 'at risk' groups are fully vaccinated there should be no need to vaccinate everyone.  Have you researched the actual risks?

Yet another barrier to stop me going!!!!

If I am actually allowed to go on holiday, the UK need a pcr test on or before day 2 of my return. If I am flying back on disembarkation day how would I do this?  Will ships offer this service?

The world has gone bonkers over a disease that has a survival rate of 99% and where pretty soon most of the adult population will be vaccinated.  I just don't get it????

I'm beginning to believe the conspiracy theorists are more credible than the leaders of this world!

12 minutes ago, JasonOasis said:

This is what Ron DeSantis is talking about the CDC knows transmission is low out door but yet they put out these outdated policies that are completely contradictory to the science and data the CDC has sworn they are following. 

 

Back to cruising the CSO is completely unworkable by most cruise lines and even though I'm fully vaccinated I think it is shameful for the CDC to try and use the cruise industry as a vehicle to force people to get vaccinated which is what it appears as though they are attempting to do. 

I wan't cruising to resume but if the CDC stands firm on 95% vaccination rate for passengers then the expectation that I have is there should be NO masks, NO capacity limits, NO social distancing requirements.  I should be able to eat and drink while walking around the ship and not have to deal with the restrictions we see in place on ship sailing out of Singapore. If the CDC is driven by the science and data, the science and data shows vaccinated individuals can not transmit the virus.  Therefore if 98% or crew and 95% of passengers are vaccinated there is no need for ANY restrictions onboard a cruise ship.  But of course we all know this isn't what the CDC is recommending they want people to get vaccinated but still put up with restrictions.

This is what I don’t understand, what is the difference between a ship sailing with vaccinated guests now and in the future? The risk is exactly the same. Following that logic, they are saying these restrictions will be in place forever. I never thought anyone would out do our uk government scientists in stupidity!

13 minutes ago, CruisingSteve said:

You have to do something pretty stupid to get banned from cruising

I was being pedantic. But you knew that right?

7 minutes ago, twangster said:

That's a negative.

Ding. Ding. Ding.

We have a winner.

 

If thats in place in August, wheres my refund!

8 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

 

Here's the CDC data on breakthrough cases.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

 

Based on that, if you had 2 cruises ships with 5000 people on them, 1 person across both cruises would be infected.

They need to treat this like flu, highly likely no serious illness and reduced transmission with vaccines.